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[KaiserShep]

Fine, nothing compares to death, but cheating is not just a "dick move," translated from it's emotional to physical equivalent, it would be like stabbing someone in both legs and arms several times or something.

 

It's not like you spilled milk on their pants or something or made fun of their hat or whatever category it feels like you are trying to cram it into here.

 

Boy, that's quite a comparison, perhaps more applicable to emotionally unstable people who have little control over themselves in times of stress. 

[RedMagister]

Omg tldr. I felt a need to write. Skip to bottom.

The argument here is highly western. Take away the idea of what you think is woman/man and you get a character that either has a soul or doesn't. Then the main messages in the content

the witcher, despite all its powerful female characters (who are shown falling over the male lead like the majority of our female side characters in dominant media), still shows women made for men, to be oogled at, seduced, saved, bedded. the games messages thus arent any better than main messages in our media. Perhaps I'm wrong, I only looked at pics and read some articles. there are interesting engaging points being made in game, but the image of the sexy, powerful, yet seduced woman is there. Create the image of her and hold her up, show her off, analyze her...and put the man in the middle. What are they really making? What, as a consumer, are you eating up?

Its a trait of their product, that their women have been objectified as much as they've been 'empowered'. The hero does heroic acts in a sexy manner- to enjoy a hot romance -to save sexy women. You play a bad ass man. Its very american. They made this game, they want sex, they want to use women, they want a hot man for the main lead, and he gets all thier love and praise and hate too. So hot. Right?

So this is a moral question. But it is not asking, is sex bad or is nudity bad. Its Not, Is romancing fict characters like this, this indulgence, bad? No.

Are men just making games for men and recreating messages we've seen about men and women?

is this objectification wrong? Is this porn where women are on display and violence a problem? Is dominant women really feminist women?

Most importantly, Are these stories for better, or worse? Both? Can we really accept this media, as it is, despite its praise? Are these stories, the way its told, the messages we're making, worth having still?

Dragon age is also for consumers but they more openly test boundaries that the witcher still upholds- the sexualization of women- The consumption Of women. Dragon age is very sensitive to this cause. I dont know another group of writers this dedicated in gaming, who work as consciously, that are also this popular. They're making more diverse images. The ones I want to play and see exist in our world.

In my compartive lit class my professor said the main heroes of western societies are entrepreneurs since we're mostly consumer culture. I agOmg tldr. I felt a need to write. Skip to bottom.

The argument here is highly western. Take away the idea of what you think is woman/man and you get a character that either has a soul or doesn't. I.e. the character comes alive or doesn't. move on from this and see the messages. The roles the characters play.

the witcher, despite all its powerful, hot sexy female characters who are shown falling over the male lead (like the majority of our female side characters in dominant media), their creation still falls short because they are made for men, to be oogled at, seduced, saved, bedded. their messages arent any better than main messages in our media. Perhaps I'm wrong, I only looked at pics and read some articles. I'm sure there are interesting engaging points being made in game. But the image of the sexy, powerful, yet seduced woman. Create the image of her and hold her up, show her off, analyze her. and put the man in the middle. What are they really making? What, as a consumer, are you eating up?

Dragon age is also for consumers but they more openly test boundaries that the witcher still upholds. the sexualization of women. The consumption Of women. Dragon age is very sensitive to this cause. I dont know another group of writers this dedicated in gaming, who work as consciously, that are also this popular. They're making more diverse images. The ones I want to play and see exist in our world.

the writers are making stories that deserve to exist in our world and are as such. Those of us that refuse it can do so, that these messages are out there now, that they are even openly talked about; but its happening. Theyre building something thats evidence of our generations voice. It is so much better than the witcher in that regard.

To sum
I'd play the witcher if it wasn't so obviously made for the male players fantasy of power over an idealized powerful woman; if their women weren't so idealized and victimized that way. what story is left for them to write if the sexualization of woman wasn't so stressed? Is the story still as great? Content would change drastically wouldn't it?
Bioware was clunky in execution, but their messages are spot on. They can learn a lot from the witchers quest execution, and realize whats not worth having from its content.

Ugh I just need to post this cause I put time writing it. Lol.

[leaguer of one]

Omg tldr. I felt a need to write. Skip to bottom.

The argument here is highly western. Take away the idea of what you think is woman/man and you get a character that either has a soul or doesn't. Then the main messages in the content

the witcher, despite all its powerful female characters (who are shown falling over the male lead like the majority of our female side characters in dominant media), still shows women made for men, to be oogled at, seduced, saved, bedded. the games messages thus arent any better than main messages in our media. Perhaps I'm wrong, I only looked at pics and read some articles. there are interesting engaging points being made in game, but the image of the sexy, powerful, yet seduced woman is there. Create the image of her and hold her up, show her off, analyze her...and put the man in the middle. What are they really making? What, as a consumer, are you eating up?

Its a trait of their product, that their women have been objectified as much as they've been 'empowered'. The hero does heroic acts in a sexy manner- to enjoy a hot romance -to save sexy women. You play a bad ass man. Its very american. They made this game, they want sex, they want to use women, they want a hot man for the main lead, and he gets all thier love and praise and hate too. So hot. Right?

So this is a moral question. But it is not asking, is sex bad or is nudity bad. Its Not, Is romancing fict characters like this, this indulgence, bad? No.

Are men just making games for men and recreating messages we've seen about men and women?

is this objectification wrong? Is this porn where women are on display and violence a problem? Is dominant women really feminist women?

Most importantly, Are these stories for better, or worse? Both? Can we really accept this media, as it is, despite its praise? Are these stories, the way its told, the messages we're making, worth having still?

Dragon age is also for consumers but they more openly test boundaries that the witcher still upholds- the sexualization of women- The consumption Of women. Dragon age is very sensitive to this cause. I dont know another group of writers this dedicated in gaming, who work as consciously, that are also this popular. They're making more diverse images. The ones I want to play and see exist in our world.

In my compartive lit class my professor said the main heroes of western societies are entrepreneurs since we're mostly consumer culture. I agOmg tldr. I felt a need to write. Skip to bottom.

The argument here is highly western. Take away the idea of what you think is woman/man and you get a character that either has a soul or doesn't. I.e. the character comes alive or doesn't. move on from this and see the messages. The roles the characters play.

the witcher, despite all its powerful, hot sexy female characters who are shown falling over the male lead (like the majority of our female side characters in dominant media), their creation still falls short because they are made for men, to be oogled at, seduced, saved, bedded. their messages arent any better than main messages in our media. Perhaps I'm wrong, I only looked at pics and read some articles. I'm sure there are interesting engaging points being made in game. But the image of the sexy, powerful, yet seduced woman. Create the image of her and hold her up, show her off, analyze her. and put the man in the middle. What are they really making? What, as a consumer, are you eating up?

Dragon age is also for consumers but they more openly test boundaries that the witcher still upholds. the sexualization of women. The consumption Of women. Dragon age is very sensitive to this cause. I dont know another group of writers this dedicated in gaming, who work as consciously, that are also this popular. They're making more diverse images. The ones I want to play and see exist in our world.

the writers are making stories that deserve to exist in our world and are as such. Those of us that refuse it can do so, that these messages are out there now, that they are even openly talked about; but its happening. Theyre building something thats evidence of our generations voice. It is so much better than the witcher in that regard.

To sum
I'd play the witcher if it wasn't so obviously made for the male players fantasy of power over an idealized powerful woman; if their women weren't so idealized and victimized that way. what story is left for them to write if the sexualization of woman wasn't so stressed? Is the story still as great? Content would change drastically wouldn't it?
Bioware was clunky in execution, but their messages are spot on. They can learn a lot from the witchers quest execution, and realize whats not worth having from its content.

Ugh I just need to post this cause I put time writing it. Lol.

Counter point: the human body is an object. Added, it's a bit ironic to ignore the fact that it the woman who want to Seduce the main character.

[Seraphim24]

Boy, that's quite a comparison, perhaps more applicable to emotionally unstable people who have little control over themselves in times of stress. 

 

I'm not really sure I understand your comment. Anyway, central to my understanding here is that it was initiated as a committed marriage, the expectations of the parties are central to understand the issue here and so on, it's not like someone just having sex without their BF or GF a few times and it's not even clear whether they are really that far into it or whatever.

 

Plus also I'm not making excuses for anyone, I'm just saying cheating in this specific context is likely to invoke seriously powerful emotions (insane emotions, even), and rather place it in a more proper context.

 

Something totally insane would be a Witcher character or whatever murdering someone because they took their bag of snacks away from them or something.

[KaiserShep]

I just have to say right now that I have as much concern for the level of commitment in the relationship as I care about Robert Durst's favorite song. However understandable it is for one to feel murderous rage over infidelity doesn't negate my lack of sympathy for such a character if s/he should act on those urges. Like Jack says about turians knowing a thing or two about a scorched earth response: f*ck 'em.

[Seraphim24]

I just have to say right now that I have as much concern for the level of commitment in the relationship as I care about Robert Durst's favorite song. However understandable it is for one to feel murderous rage over infidelity doesn't negate my lack of sympathy for such a character if s/he should act on those urges. 

 

Sure, I just think generally speaking people vastly underestimate the power of relationships (especially romantic ones) in their lives though, not necessarily always as relating to the nasty things people do as a consequence of it, but just in general.

 

And like I said, it depends a lot on expectations and context, cheating by itself could mean relatively little to nothing or a lot more than that.

[Majestic Jazz]

Outside of gameplay, it is interesting to see this DAI versus TW3 argument. In a way, Bioware has championed the SJW demographic and much of the popularity of DAI is tributed to such demographics of women and the LGBT community. On the other hand you have TW3, which is sort of the anti-Dragon Age which champions the heterosexual male demographic. It will be interesting to see where Bioware and CDPR goes forward with this concept with Mass Effect 4/Dragon Age 4 for Bioware and Cyberpunk 2077 for CDPR.

 

In terms of sales, it does appear that TW3 is selling better which is another interesting point to make because I believe a lot of the popularity of TW3 is attributed to being anti-DAI/Bioware/SJW influence and it looks like TW3 is winning on that front, in terms of sells. A lot of progress has been made and progress will eventually win as you cannot stop progress. However, in the meantime, it appears as if many gamers just isn't ready for an industry that is more "open" to women in strong roles and the inclusion of gays. Also when you have games like Grand Theft Auto 5 selling as much as it does with its VERY open message of women as sex objects/inferior to men and what not, I mean Rockstar Games IS the anti-Bioware, not CDPR and as long as GTA games continue to dominate the gaming industry with CDPR games there to supplement them, how much of an influence can Bioware really have?

 

I mean, I like diversity and I am glad that Bioware focuses on that. But as a heterosexual male, I am not going to lie, a lot of the appeal of TW3 IS the fact that it is very heterosexual male focused and that I can play as a "man's man" in a way that the Inquisitor isn't. I do not apologize for being a heterosexual male but TW3 allows me to play the game with that mindset in mind without any limits. Disagree with what I say but it is a belief shared by MANY TW3 fans and gamers a like which is why I believe a lot of people favor TW3 over DAI not because of gameplay, but because it doesn't have that SJW vibe that DAI has. Nothing wrong with having a SJW message, but a lot of people just does not like it and TW3 is a game that is very anti-SJW.

 

TW3 is sort of like Dos Equis and DAI is like Zima.

 

 

[In Exile]

Omg tldr. I felt a need to write. Skip to bottom.
 

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Ugh I just need to post this cause I put time writing it. Lol.

 

I'm going to reply in parts, because I do think you've raised some interesting points even if this was, in part, a chance to vent.

 

 

the witcher, despite all its powerful female characters (who are shown falling over the male lead like the majority of our female side characters in dominant media), still shows women made for men, to be oogled at, seduced, saved, bedded. the games messages thus arent any better than main messages in our media. Perhaps I'm wrong, I only looked at pics and read some articles. there are interesting engaging points being made in game, but the image of the sexy, powerful, yet seduced woman is there. Create the image of her and hold her up, show her off, analyze her...and put the man in the middle. What are they really making? What, as a consumer, are you eating up?

 

Let's put aside Geralt's love interests for the moment. Would you apply the same criticism to Ciri, and her role in the story? 

 

Dragon age is also for consumers but they more openly test boundaries that the witcher still upholds- the sexualization of women- The consumption Of women. Dragon age is very sensitive to this cause. I dont know another group of writers this dedicated in gaming, who work as consciously, that are also this popular. They're making more diverse images. The ones I want to play and see exist in our world.

In my compartive lit class my professor said the main heroes of western societies are entrepreneurs since we're mostly consumer culture. I agOmg tldr. I felt a need to write. Skip to bottom.

 

Did your Professor give examples as to what he considers "entrepreneurial" heroes? I'm not sure I have a grasp on what the term might apprehend, though thinking about the qualities ascribed to "entrepreneurs" given the dictionary definition I'm not sure I follow. Because, at least in fantasy, it seems like the heroic archetype is very much against that notion. Take, say, the ascetic Luke Skywalker. 

 

 

To sum
I'd play the witcher if it wasn't so obviously made for the male players fantasy of power over an idealized powerful woman; if their women weren't so idealized and victimized that way. what story is left for them to write if the sexualization of woman wasn't so stressed? Is the story still as great? Content would change drastically wouldn't it?

 

Let's say we grant that Yen, Triss and characters in a similar archetype fall within this trope. The substantial portion of the game - the story, as well as the narrative arc - would largely remain intact. This would certainly be true for TW2, and it would be true for most of TW3. There would be other gender potrayal issues in that context, but despite the (almost comical extent to which) the Witcher's own fanbase focuses on the romantic side-content for Geralt, CDPR has been moving further away from that issue.

 

In substance, TW3 is no different from any other blockbuster product, with some very profound moments. The Bloody Baron questline being a progressive take on domestic violence, and other positive progressive (but very limited) portrayals of an LBGT character in the context of the setting and another who is a cross-dresser. 

[In Exile]

Outside of gameplay, it is interesting to see this DAI versus TW3 argument. In a way, Bioware has championed the SJW demographic and much of the popularity of DAI is tributed to such demographics of women and the LGBT community. On the other hand you have TW3, which is sort of the anti-Dragon Age which champions the heterosexual male demographic...

 

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I mean, I like diversity and I am glad that Bioware focuses on that. But as a heterosexual male, I am not going to lie, a lot of the appeal of TW3 IS the fact that it is very heterosexual male focused and that I can play as a "man's man" in a way that the Inquisitor isn't.

 

 

I actually can't stop laughing. This is either the best stealth troll post in the history of this forum, or the most wonderful accidental post ever, but oh, you've made my day with this one. 

 

Thank you. This was the best. 

[Legion of 1337]

To sum
I'd play the witcher if it wasn't so obviously made for the male players fantasy of power over an idealized powerful woman; if their women weren't so idealized and victimized that way. what story is left for them to write if the sexualization of woman wasn't so stressed? Is the story still as great? Content would change drastically wouldn't it?
Bioware was clunky in execution, but their messages are spot on. They can learn a lot from the witchers quest execution, and realize whats not worth having from its content.

Ugh I just need to post this cause I put time writing it. Lol.

You know THIS is why people say people who obsess about identity politics are killjoys.

 

You get yourselves so worked up about the sex/race/orientation of the characters and whether they're politically correct or pushing the right moral narrative for you that the fact the the game has a great story to tell and great characters in it becomes irrelevant. You act like the game is all about that, when in reality, the game has a different, excellent story to tell.

Basically, you're saying the main female chars in the Witcher are too attractive and the main character is a man, so to you they're automatically being "objectified" (which is a ridiculous term BTW), so you're morally offended and the rest of the game doesn't matter because of this one gender representation quibble and you won't play it.

 

You know, 24 basically advocates a fascist police state and torture because of its heavy "ends justify means" theme. I don't subscribe to such a moral compass, but I still watched the show and I still enjoyed it (well, until season 6. it got too repetitive). I know people have the right to vote with their wallets but some of you have this overly narrow "only play/watch/buy things that fit my own worldview".

 

If I thought that way half my book collection wouldn't exist.

[Majestic Jazz]

I actually can't stop laughing. This is either the best stealth troll post in the history of this forum, or the most wonderful accidental post ever, but oh, you've made my day with this one. 

 

Thank you. This was the best. 

 

Believe what you want but I am just going by what I read in comments/forums around the net and many times when someone praises TW3, it is either it having a better open world than DAI, better sidequest than DAI, or not having SJW themes shoved down their necks like in DAI. Whether you agree with them or not is not the point, the point is that TW3 has aspects about it that appeals to a certain community just like DAI has aspects that appeals to a certain community and one thing I have observed is that there is a segment of TW3/CDPR fans who see TW3 as sort of the anti-DAI in terms of how it handles themes such as sexuality and masculinity. 

 

Just go look at the Cyberpunk 2077 trailer and you can already see the "tone" in which women may be portrayed in which would align with how TW3 tackles such issues. 

 

[AlanC9]

Outside of gameplay, it is interesting to see this DAI versus TW3 argument. In a way, Bioware has championed the SJW demographic and much of the popularity of DAI is tributed to such demographics of women and the LGBT community.

Hmm... is anybody actually making a serious case that the "SJW demographic" is a significant sales factor? Quotes there because "SJW demographic" is not a very clear concept. ( Is "SJW" ever used in a fashion that isn't meant to be insulting? My impression is that it's almost always used the way I use "Gamergate.")

[KaiserShep]

TW3 is sort of like Dos Equis and DAI is like Zima.

 

Blergh. Dos Equis? I'd rather just drink cheap ass Wild Irish Rose and pass out. 

[Legion of 1337]

Hmm... is anybody actually making a serious case that the "SJW demographic" is a significant sales factor? Quotes there because "SJW demographic" is not a very clear concept. ( Is "SJW" ever used in a fashion that isn't meant to be insulting? My impression is that it's almost always used the way I use "Gamergate.")

No. SJW is a prejorative for people who advocate social justice causes. The phrase itself isn't actually "insulting" in its vocabulary, it's just the way it's used by the people who invented/use it makes it an insult.

[blahblahblah]

 

Caring for a person who is close (due to family bound) doesn't mean she cares about the lives around her,i still remember that she violated my Inq Order while stabbed Abelas in the back , he have done no harm to my squad.

If with strong you mean these kind of bullying,   clearly it's not my thought

She seek blindly the power of the well despite the danger even if Kieran exist,this is not a great behaviour development after 9 years from DAO

 

Your bias knows no bounds, lolololol. It seems you don't have any freaking idea how character development works.

[KaiserShep]

Believe what you want but I am just going by what I read in comments/forums around the net and many times when someone praises TW3, it is either it having a better open world than DAI, better sidequest than DAI, or not having SJW themes shoved down their necks like in DAI. Whether you agree with them or not is not the point, the point is that TW3 has aspects about it that appeals to a certain community just like DAI has aspects that appeals to a certain community and one thing I have observed is that there is a segment of TW3/CDPR fans who see TW3 as sort of the anti-DAI in terms of how it handles themes such as sexuality and masculinity. 

 

Just go look at the Cyberpunk 2077 trailer and you can already see the "tone" in which women may be portrayed in which would align with how TW3 tackles such issues. 

 

 

I thought the trailer for Cyberpunk 2077 sucked. The only thing that seemed interesting was the very brief cut scene at the end, but the bulk of the trailer is just crappy slow mo. I didn't really start becoming more interested in it until I read about it later, and of course learning more about The Witcher. 

[In Exile]

Believe what you want but I am just going by what I read in comments/forums around the net and many times when someone praises TW3, it is either it having a better open world than DAI, better sidequest than DAI, or not having SJW themes shoved down their necks like in DAI. Whether you agree with them or not is not the point, the point is that TW3 has aspects about it that appeals to a certain community just like DAI has aspects that appeals to a certain community and one thing I have observed is that there is a segment of TW3/CDPR fans who see TW3 as sort of the anti-DAI in terms of how it handles themes such as sexuality and masculinity. 

 

Just go look at the Cyberpunk 2077 trailer and you can already see the "tone" in which women may be portrayed in which would align with how TW3 tackles such issues. 

 

 

That's not what I'm talking about - it's the focus on "heterosexual male gamers", followed up by this ridiculous porn-star shot of a half-naked Geralt looking like he rubbed himself down in baby oil before his big bottom scene. It's just so ridiculous looking when read in the context of your post. 

[Majestic Jazz]

That's not what I'm talking about - it's the focus on "heterosexual male gamers", followed up by this ridiculous porn-star shot of a half-naked Geralt looking like he rubbed himself down in baby oil before his big bottom scene. It's just so ridiculous looking when read in the context of your post. 

 

Well like I said, Bioware is very progressive and forward thinking when it comes to the portrayal of women and gays. I mean the popularity of FemShep in my opinion is attributed to many women finally having a strong and confident female videogame protagonist who isn't all sexualized like old-school Lara Croft and Bayonetta. Not to mention people can "create" her and give her any personality she wants but at the end of the day, FemShep is confident, strong, and sexy without having to look like the typical MMO female character in bikini body Armor. That is why I was surprised when I learned that of those who completed ME3, only 18% did so with a female Shepard.

 

You may find it funny but there is a group of male heterosexual gamers who feels that companies such as Bioware is "encroaching" on their belief that the videogame industry is largely for straight males and games like DAI sort of contradicts that. So it is no surprise that a game such as TW3 gets a lot of praise from many male gamers. Not ALL male gamers, but a large chunk. 

 

Perhaps this could explain why TW3 has such a high metacritic user score while DAI has a very low score.

[leaguer of one]

That's not what I'm talking about - it's the focus on "heterosexual male gamers", followed up by this ridiculous porn-star shot of a half-naked Geralt looking like he rubbed himself down in baby oil before his big bottom scene. It's just so ridiculous looking when read in the context of your post. 

Counter point: It's basically how Kratos is shown in God of war.

[leaguer of one]

Well like I said, Bioware is very progressive and forward thinking when it comes to the portrayal of women and gays. I mean the popularity of FemShep in my opinion is attributed to many women finally having a strong and confident female videogame protagonist who isn't all sexualized like old-school Lara Croft and Bayonetta. 

...I'm sorry but I stopped reading here. most of FemSheps fans are male and it's not because it give woman a strong female lead only. Femshep is not a feminist icon. She's just a character a person can roleplay with out falling into the trophs female leads fall into.

[Legion of 1337]

...I'm sorry but I stopped reading here. most of FemSheps fans are male and it's not because it give woman a strong female lead only. Femshep is not a feminist icon. She's just a character a person can roleplay with out falling into the trophs female leads fall into.

She also has a better voice actor.

[leaguer of one]

She also has a better voice actor.

Subjectively, but ya I do feel she has a better voice actor.

[Majestic Jazz]

...I'm sorry but I stopped reading here. most of FemSheps fans are male and it's not because it give woman a strong female lead only. Femshep is not a feminist icon. She's just a character a person can roleplay with out falling into the trophs female leads fall into.

 

1) It doesn't matter if most femshep fans or male or female. My point remains that FemShep is a female protagonist who can be sexy without resorting to the typical videogame standard of what a sexy female hero should be. Perhaps this was a draw to many of the femshep male fans.

 

2) I never said that Femshp is a feminst icon, only that FemShep has a strong following within BSN and around the net.

 

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To add to my opinion that Bioware games appeals to the female/LGBT crowd over CDPR games, here is a quote from a female gamer who commented on that KOTAKU story:

 

Perhaps that’s the male perspective, but as a lady gamer the Bioware games have felt like games made with women gamers in mind, while the Witcher series feels like a game by men for men. As a result, Bioware has gotten way, way more of my money.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Just go look at the Cyberpunk 2077 trailer and you can already see the "tone" in which women may be portrayed in which would align with how TW3 tackles such issues. 

 

Please no. The less Cyberpunk 2077 is like the Witcher franchise, the better. 

[Rocknife]

Well... I'm not so sure whether it would be best to call this thread interesting or ridicoulus... Especially since Morrigan was basically a sex tool that the Warden could use to surive in DAO. If the Warden or other Grey Warden companion sleeps with Morrigan, all the Grey Wardens survive. If not, one of the Grey Wardens has to die. That scene was especially disturbing for female wardens who romanced Alistair and I remember Gaider having a dude draw a short comic of it... They were proud of materializing their most important female figure back then so much that they had some guy draw a short comic book about it but now they're suddenly supporting gender equality, feminisim even. Touching, really... In the Witcher you don't have to impregnate anyone or you don't have to send your lover to anyone to survive. Witcher's world is dark and chaotic. There is no absolute good and evil and at some point, profits and primitive desires may overcome the morals for the most in the Witcher. That was like this in the first Witcher game and it is like this in the last Witcher game as well. In DAO, woman = a tool to impregnate. In DAI, a woman = a brilliant, amazing, strong, independent unicorn. What a contrast. This is nothing more than a failed move for PR for me.

 

Even though I love Dragon Age: Origins more than The Witcher, with all the respect I have for the writers I must say I don't believe the Disney-like world of DAI really reflects the opinions of the writers accurately, especially considering the same people wrote the DAO as well... Sugarcoating our world's problems or your own personal opinions will not change anything.