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[G-four]

Just kill Wynne when you do the broken circle I just did. Take morrigan to the tower let her do some talking Wynne will get all up tight about Morrigan being an apostate then kill Wynne.



I use Morrigan as healer, tnx to the respect mod.

[ejoslin]

Heh, when Wynne asks to join, just say you don't want her following around, nagging you. But killing her on the stairs is probably your best bet if you don't want her taking credit for defeating Uldred (with your "help" of course).

[Reaverwind]

Allerleihrau wrote...

Kryyptehk wrote...

*snip*

Maybe she's racist. It's obvious by the way she treated Aneirin. She just dislikes elves. I think I heard her talking to Alistair about dumping my elven mage once. -rolls eyes-

Hm, that's an interesting idea, I never considered that. It would explain her reaction in the situation with the Tevinter slaver. Zevran says I should look them into the eyes before I decide what to do with them, while Wynne's only concern seems to be that the deal would involve Blood Magic.

Can anyone who has been travelling more with her give any more insight into this? Any other situation where she acts pro- or anti-elves?

No, one thing I've noticed is she is far more disapproving of a female warden having fun than a male. If you really want to read into that, her disapproval of the male warden stems from her not being the object of the warden's affections.

[ejoslin]

Reaverwind wrote...

No, one thing I've noticed is she is far more disapproving of a female warden having fun than a male. If you really want to read into that, her disapproval of the male warden stems from her not being the object of the warden's affections.

Male PC seduces Gheyna -- Wynne approves +7
Female PC seduces Cammen -- Wynne disapproves -10

Edit:  But I love this part of that scenario
PC seduces Cammen -- Zevran approves +4
PC seduces Cammen with Wynne in the party -- Zevran approves +6 (you get a very funny exchange between Zevran and Wynne as well)

Modifié par ejoslin, 22 février 2010 - 01:09 .

[Sabriana]

ejoslin wrote...

PC seduces Cammen with Wynne in the party -- Zevran approves +6 (you get a very funny exchange between Zevran and Wynne as well)

Now she tells me.
*glares at Ejoslin. But not in a bad way*

[ejoslin]

Now you have to decide if extra Zevran/Wynne dialog is really worth having your PC seduce Cammen . . .

[Reaverwind]

ejoslin wrote...

[Edit:  But I love this part of that scenario
PC seduces Cammen -- Zevran approves +4
PC seduces Cammen with Wynne in the party -- Zevran approves +6 (you get a very funny exchange between Zevran and Wynne as well)

Hm, problem is, I believe this causes problems with Varathorn. Zevran is easy enough to befriend/seduce, and I'd rather punt Wynne off a cliff than have her join the party.

[melkathi]

ejoslin wrote...

Male PC seduces Gheyna -- Wynne approves +7
Female PC seduces Cammen -- Wynne disapproves -10

And I'll say again, I think they made a typo while coding that bit and it's supposed to be -7

[ejoslin]

Reaverwind wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

[Edit:  But I love this part of that scenario
PC seduces Cammen -- Zevran approves +4
PC seduces Cammen with Wynne in the party -- Zevran approves +6 (you get a very funny exchange between Zevran and Wynne as well)

Hm, problem is, I believe this causes problems with Varathorn. Zevran is easy enough to befriend/seduce, and I'd rather punt Wynne off a cliff than have her join the party.

You don't have to break them up.  Just don't tell Gheyna about it.  I've only run into problems when I broke them up -- the sex doesn't seem to bother anyone but Gheyna.

What is funny is the conversation between Wynne and Zevran.  Since you can switch out party members in the dalish area, it's not like you have to have Wynne in the party longer than having this exchange.

Edit: 

melkathi wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

Male PC seduces Gheyna -- Wynne approves +7
Female PC seduces Cammen -- Wynne disapproves -10

And I'll say again, I think they made a typo while coding that bit and it's supposed to be -7 

Yabbut -- -10 is STILL more disapproving than even -7.  Which is interesting as Wynne had her share of nookie time as well.

Modifié par ejoslin, 22 février 2010 - 01:29 .

[Sabriana]

Rofl, I just close my eyes, and promise my PC I'll take her to the Swiss Alps next vacation, Ejoslin.

I tried it with my PTSD rogue, somehow it made sense with her. No Wynne though. But Varathorn wasn't at all bothered, Reaverwind. Perhaps because my rogue just unloaded a boat-load of ironbark at his shoppe.

P.S. I didn't break Cammen and Geyna (sp) up either. So that must be it.

Modifié par Sabriana, 22 février 2010 - 01:28 .

[Reaverwind]

Sabriana wrote...

Rofl, I just close my eyes, and promise my PC I'll take her to the Swiss Alps next vacation, Ejoslin.

I tried it with my PTSD rogue, somehow it made sense with her. No Wynne though. But Varathorn wasn't at all bothered, Reaverwind. Perhaps because my rogue just unloaded a boat-load of ironbark at his shoppe.

P.S. I didn't break Cammen and Geyna (sp) up either. So that must be it.

So you're good if you don't break them up? My next character is going to have some serious fun, then.

Modifié par Reaverwind, 22 février 2010 - 01:39 .

[Herr Uhl]

Kryyptehk wrote...
Maybe hitting on was the wrong word for it. And given the fact that I KNOW she is joking, I still find it odd why she is mean to Zevran when he tries to joke with her. And when Zevran "flirts" with her while she's getting on his case about him being a murderer when literally everyone else, including herself, is one... The fact that she is more comfortable make sexual comments to a man she pretty much considers to be like a son to her, is kind of creepy.

And she's not even mean to Oghren when he says much more lewd things to her. She just acts uncomfortable.

I see Wynne as an older, better mannered version of Morrigan. Morrigan gets disturbed when Zevran, Oghren and Leli "hits" on her. Yet she throws innuendo at Alastair (not much) and Sten (a lot).

Edit: And to Leli, talking about clothes is the most romantic thing one could do.

Modifié par Herr Uhl, 22 février 2010 - 02:17 .

[melkathi]

Herr Uhl wrote...

I see Wynne as an older, better mannered version of Morrigan. Morrigan gets disturbed when Zevran, Oghren and Leli "hits" on her. Yet she throws innuendo at Alastair (not much) and Sten (a lot).

Edit: And to Leli, talking about clothes is the most romantic thing one could do.

IT's not even strange. Through my dance lessons and social dancing I am very used to that sort of behaviour. I see a lot of women who will toy and play with men the same way Morri does and who get extremely insecure and almost offended the moment someone turns it around and teases them. I have only found a few people who can take as well as they can hand out. And I find their company extremely refreshing for that reason.

Especially for Morrigan it's very fitting. She so needs to be in control, that anything initiated by the other party is a thread.

[Sabriana]

I agree, it's a control thing with Morrigan. Besides, Zevran got to her, and won 5 silvers, so she's not unapproachable, she just chooses it. It's a conscious decision.



Don't be so harsh on Leliana, Herr Uhl. It's clothes, AND hair, AND shoes. She's not *that* shallow, sheesh.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Herr, please tell me you are not comparing the best character in the game with the most bland and boring one....

[ejoslin]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Herr, please tell me you are not comparing the best character in the game with the most bland and boring one....

See, Wynne DOES have fans! (teasing)

[Elanareon]

Wynne is the good version of Flemmeth! LOL

[Reaverwind]

Elanareon wrote...

Wynne is the good version of Flemmeth! LOL

Now, that's a scary thought. Keep in mind, though, Flemeth saves your collective asses, whereas Wynne doesn't mind reducing your survival chances. Who's the "good" version, again?

[ejoslin]

Heh, yeh, I was thinking, Flemeth has a lot more integrity than Wynne.

[Sabriana]

Well..., ah..., I got it! Wynne is better groomed and better dressed than Flemeth.

There. I found the 'good' part.



*is proud of herself*

[Reaverwind]

Sabriana wrote...

Well..., ah..., I got it! Wynne is better groomed and better dressed than Flemeth.
There. I found the 'good' part.

*is proud of herself*

Hmmm, maybe, if you consider wearing that horror that female circle mages wear as being better-dressed.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Every word Flemeth utters, including her laugh, has wisdom. Every line Wynne says is full of pretension and no wisdom at all.

[Sabriana]

Reaverwind wrote...

Sabriana wrote...

Well..., ah..., I got it! Wynne is better groomed and better dressed than Flemeth.
There. I found the 'good' part.

*is proud of herself*

Hmmm, maybe, if you consider wearing that horror that female circle mages wear as being better-dressed.

Hey now. Don't burst my bubble. And I was so proud of myself. Ok, more expensively dressed. There.

*wanders away grumbling about pedantic, nitpicking, bubble-bursters*

[melkathi]

ejoslin wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Herr, please tell me you are not comparing the best character in the game with the most bland and boring one....

See, Wynne DOES have fans! (teasing)

No, he's a Morrigan Fan

By the way Knight, are you on Facebook in the I Love Morrigan group? Apparently we need members because the I love Leliana group has passed us in numbers...

Modifié par melkathi, 22 février 2010 - 03:59 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

melkathi wrote...

By the way Knight, are you on Facebook in the I Love Morrigan group? Apparently we need members because the I love Leliana group has passed us in numbers...

Huh, I didn't even know there was one. I am definately going to join