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Abominable Wynne (or: Wynnie the "Poo! I am not allowed to have Spoilers in the title")


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Cuddlezarro wrote...

before I post the screenshots does any one have a screenshot of them losing major approval from her

I need it for a little banner Im making :3


Arrgh!  Post please, and edit later!  I'm dying here!

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fine fine

wheres the :atleast I am a grey warden unlike you: option?

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Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 23 février 2010 - 08:01 .


#503
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Wow, yes. I guess she's the one who knows ALL about that and can provide that training . . .

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im still wondering how I can be pulling rank when I *am* group leader and even the senior warden of the group pretty much made me leader



and she isnt even a grey warden herself!

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In re: grey Warden training.



I loved Riordan's take on what being a Grey Warden is all about. You can ask him about all kinds of stuff, but he tells you that in the end, none of it matters.

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Riordans also a senior warden which means he knows alot more than little miss Wynn could ever hope of knowing about them (plus hes been to the Grey Warden HQ I bet meeting the anderfell wardens would shatter Wynns perfect image of them)

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Riordan seemed to have more confidence in the Warden's ability as well.

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He's also the guy who tried to climb a flying archdemon with only one knife (he threw the other one away). His judgment may not be the best.....

:D

Modifié par mousestalker, 23 février 2010 - 08:09 .


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ejoslin wrote...

Wow, yes. I guess she's the one who knows ALL about that and can provide that training . . .


What bugs me about that dialogue is that you can't point she doesn't have Grey Warden training, either.


mousestalker wrote...

In re: grey Warden training.

I loved Riordan's take on what being a Grey Warden is all about. You can ask him about all kinds of stuff, but he tells you that in the end, none of it matters.


Duncan pretty much tells you the same thing in the Mage Origin, if you ask him what Greagoir and Irving were arguing about (pass persuade check) and then ask his opinion.

Modifié par Reaverwind, 23 février 2010 - 08:12 .


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Riordan was also rather hot and had a sexy voice shame he had to kamikazi himself like he did :E

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Well, he also gimped the archdemon enough so that it couldn't fly around a lot afterward. Although I do agree, it was kind of silly to try and take it on like that. But then again, like the old cliche says: Desperate times call for desperate measures.



So, now Wynne knows all about GW training? Well, how very talented and knowledgeable she is. And there I thought she couldn't top herself. Silly me. /sarcasm



*headdesk*

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Sabriana wrote...

So, now Wynne knows all about GW training? Well, how very talented and knowledgeable she is. And there I thought she couldn't top herself. Silly me. /sarcasm

*headdesk*



She's so wrong on so many fronts - it's not even funny. For starters - what Grey Warden training? Perhaps she's referring to certain Warden abilities? Little does she know that training has nothing to do with those. Only ONE mage warden at a time? Really, Wynne? My PC's little adventure at Soldier's Peak says differently. (I do love how Irving covers for your BM during that little confrontation during the Broken Circle questline - he can BS with the best of 'em.) And let's not forget that stop darkspawn at all costs even if it means sacrificing the few philosophy that is a stark contrast to her romantic ideals.

Modifié par Reaverwind, 23 février 2010 - 08:25 .


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Cuddlezarro

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I wonder how much more I can dig up on Wynn... Ill take screenies if Alexander pisses her off more and he will no doubt about that

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Ah yes, I remember that particular discussion with Wynne very well. She liked me a bit less afterwards...:whistle:

But it's also a good example about the things that bug me in regards to the dialogue with her: Like Reaverwind says, we should be able to point out that she doesn't have any Warden training either - apart from some heroic hogwash she's picked up.

Another example is the dialogue that starts with:

"I must ask: What does being a Grey Warden mean to you?"

During this conversation the PC has the option of telling her that:

"I don't want power. I've never wanted it."

(which is what my characters usually say, because they want to be free, not powerful). This is followed by a lenghty lecture that starts with:

"If you live apart from others, and your actions affect only you, then you may do as you wish."

and goes on and on and on until she finally says:

"But I've lectured enough for today. I should stop before I wear out my welcome."

I mean, not that she's not right, because she definitely is wearing out her welcome, but why can't we say something to her along those lines? Why can't we interrupt her sermon about power and influence and ponds and drops and ripples? Why can't we tell her that yes, her constant lecturing is grating on our nerves?

I think I would like Wynne a lot more, if I had more dialogue options. Even if it would end with a tersely "I see" on her part and an approval loss.

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@ Cuddlezarro to me today the same thing happened to me, you tried to give option 1, really telling you. That's always ALISTAIR.

shame I can not tell you what I think my character, for which she leaves with Zevran anywhere in the world and save Feraldan Alistair.

You have completed the exit of the tower with my characters.

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Ah yes, Allerleihrau, this is probably the conversation where my PC tells her that 'many kings are tyrants', and she doesn't like it. I think she is trying to point out the differences between a tyrant and a king. Being called up on it doesn't sit well with her.


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ok not only is Wynn a know it all shes also going senile when she was telling the story about how she set that boys hair on fire(yet she doesnt know any fire spells), I told her I would have done alot worse and then shes like "people have no love for witches like us"

since when was dear Alexander Cousland a mage again? no really that kryptonite great sword and Bling Bling massive plate is not for show woman

Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 23 février 2010 - 08:40 .


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@ Sabriana



Yes, that's the one. The option about kings and tyrants is an alternative to the "don't want power" option.

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I wish Wynne would address my NHF as "my lady" in every conversation instead of just the one. *grin* I certainly didn't tell her to stop!

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Yeah, she certainly says "my lady" in whole different tone of voice, doesn't she?

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Cuddlezarro wrote...

ok not only is Wynn a know it all shes also going senile when she was telling the story about how she set that boys hair on fire(yet she doesnt know any fire spells), I told her I would have done alot worse and then shes like "people have no love for witches like us"

since when was dear Alexander Cousland a mage again? no really that kryptonite great sword and Bling Bling massive plate is not for show woman


She must have spotted that pointy hat you have stashed under your pillow. Image IPB 

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Reaverwind wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

ok not only is Wynn a know it all shes also going senile when she was telling the story about how she set that boys hair on fire(yet she doesnt know any fire spells), I told her I would have done alot worse and then shes like "people have no love for witches like us"

since when was dear Alexander Cousland a mage again? no really that kryptonite great sword and Bling Bling massive plate is not for show woman


She must have spotted that pointy hat you have stashed under your pillow. Image IPB 



why was she looking in my tent to begin with!? and thats not a hat :3

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Cuddlezarro wrote...

Reaverwind wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

ok not only is Wynn a know it all shes also going senile when she was telling the story about how she set that boys hair on fire(yet she doesnt know any fire spells), I told her I would have done alot worse and then shes like "people have no love for witches like us"

since when was dear Alexander Cousland a mage again? no really that kryptonite great sword and Bling Bling massive plate is not for show woman


She must have spotted that pointy hat you have stashed under your pillow. Image IPB 



why was she looking in my tent to begin with!?


I can only guess it has something to do with her fetish for younger men.

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ok so I just got (through a little cheating) the -100 Hostile Wynn leaves conversation...and...





Defiling the sacred ashes: you destroyed humanities hope I hope the dark spawn kill you!



-100 Hostile Wynn: your a rude self centered jerk who doesnt listen to any one but I wish you luck



her Zevran romance talk came off as more hostile >_<

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Cuddlezarro wrote...

ok so I just got (through a little cheating) the -100 Hostile Wynn leaves conversation...and...


Defiling the sacred ashes: you destroyed humanities hope I hope the dark spawn kill you!

-100 Hostile Wynn: your a rude self centered jerk who doesnt listen to any one but I wish you luck

her Zevran romance talk came off as more hostile >_<


Ummmm, screen shot?