Addai67 wrote...
Ok, to preface my comments I'm going to quote myself from the Zevran romance thread:I woke up this morning fuming about Wynne's ridiculous conversation with my character last night. The story line around my character makes it even more insulting than usual. My virginal girl has only slept with Zevran, maybe, 3 nights before this. I think she got over her self-consciousness about 10 minutes in to the first night, of course- it is obvious that Zevran is nothing if not a generous lover- but she still is only just exploring her sexuality for the first time, after a bad history and the "wonderful" nurturance of the Circle. And even though she doesn't know what's going on with Zevran, she can see his pain. His refusal was a blow, because she thinks he might end up telling her he needs to move on. So on the very same night to have that... that woman... try to make it so cheap and tawdry, to tell her that it is beneath her to be involved with him, is insult to lots of injury.
I think she also suspects that it is in part racist, that if she were still with Alistair, Wynne would not be nearly so incensed. Which is somewhat true, since in the Alistair sermon, Wynne more talks about them getting hurt rather than it being "inappropriate." Oh boy, if she ever gets to the point where she hears about Aneirin, my elven lass is not going to take it well. This is all proof to her that it was a mistake to have a Circle mouthpiece in her camp.
Now, what I am thinking about Wynne is this: Nearly every other character in the game changes, develops, overcomes their weaknesses or at least begins to do that. Even Loghain. Naturally there are exceptions (Bhelen comes to mind) and a lot depends on the Warden's influence. But no matter what the Warden does or doesn't do, it seems to me like Wynne is one of the few who never changes, who actually regresses. If my elf mage ever did hear about Aneirin's story, her own experience with "wynsensitivity" would convince her that Wynne had learned nothing at all. Rather than be a mentor to my Warden mage, she is still the same overbearing, callous b*tch she was to Aneirin. If my elf mage were then to see Wynne try to convince Aneirin to go back to the Circle, this conclusion would be doubly confirmed. Maybe it is just a factor of her age, that being set in her ways, she's just going to be this way and that's that.
I am happy for someone else with a different view of Wynne to show me the error of my ways.
Actually I think you've just scored a major point, there. Zevran learns to trust, Alistair does [a little] growing up, Sten softens up a bit, Lilliana learns she can be whatever she wants and isn't defined by the opinions of others. Loghain realizes what he's screwed up but Wynne? Just keep spouting platitudes.
I sometimes wonder if her psychological brittleness is related to what Loghain says about the mages fleeing the battle and not blowing a hole in the lines for him to get to Cailin. I wonder is she just shoots off her mouth so she doesn't have to deal with the guilt of leaving Cailin and the GW to die, or taking the responsibility for the fact that her arrogance could have cost Anerin's life. Of all the crazy party members--she takes the least responsibility for her past actions.
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