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[Mac007]

Adamant would have required a decent sized army, as did Arbor Wilds. We just don't see it because there's no way they could make Skyhold the size it should actually be realistically speaking. Just too much resources. I tend not try and overthink much.

 

And according to the translation Solas provides, it's the place where the sky is kept back... Not just kept.

 

I agree thinking that Solas may have spent time, even been born at what became Skyhold 

 

I somehow COMPLETELY forgot about those 2 battles... my bad.

 

And I'm not 100% convinced that's true, Solas has no reason to tell you the truth about him coming from the north (other than fictional characters always having a grain of truth in their statements, for some reason). That being said, I do hope that is true because that would be a very good plot twist...

[Ariella]

I somehow COMPLETELY forgot about those 2 battles... my bad.

 

And I'm not 100% convinced that's true, Solas has no reason to tell you the truth about him coming from the north (other than fictional characters always having a grain of truth in their statements, for some reason). That being said, I do hope that is true because that would be a very good plot twist...

 

Solas' codex updates post game with them actually finding the place he claims to have been from. There hasn't been a village there in centuries and the only name they could get is something in corrupted Tevine.

 

I am pretty sure he's been there prior though if not born.

[Mac007]

Solas' codex updates post game with them actually finding the place he claims to have been from. There hasn't been a village there in centuries and the only name they could get is something in corrupted Tevine.

 

I am pretty sure he's been there prior though if not born.

 

Huh, too bad there isn't any War Table missions to investigate that any further, I'd be very interested in that.

[Ariella]

Huh, too bad there isn't any War Table missions to investigate that any further, I'd be very interested in that.

 The note, which is from Leliana, talks about investigating further, which may come into a dlc at a later date.

 

Inquisitor,

Despite my efforts, I have been unable to locate Solas. From the site of your battle withCorypheus, he was last seen headed west, still distraught over the destruction of the orbCorypheus carried. From there he disappeared, evading my people so easily and so completely that I am forced to wonder how much he knew about them.

When Solas initially approached the Inquisition and offered aid, I questioned him extensively about his background and history. He was evasive, but he did give the name of the village where he grew up, noting that it was small, unlikely to appear on any map.

I hate loose ends, so I kept a few of my agents searching, to verify his story. They recently located the village... or what remains of it. It is a ruin, as it has been for centuries, its name preserved only in degraded form in Ancient Tevinter mysteries. Whoever Solas truly is, wherever he came from, he has deceived us from the very start.

I apologize for not investigating this more thoroughly while Solas was here. He was clearly helping us, and other matters were of greater urgency, but it was an oversight nevertheless, given how little he shared with us. It is not clear what his plans are, if any, but I will continue to search.

Leliana

 

http://dragonage.wik...ex_entry:_Solas

[Mac007]

 The note, which is from Leliana, talks about investigating further, which may come into a dlc at a later date.

 

Inquisitor,

Despite my efforts, I have been unable to locate Solas. From the site of your battle withCorypheus, he was last seen headed west, still distraught over the destruction of the orbCorypheus carried. From there he disappeared, evading my people so easily and so completely that I am forced to wonder how much he knew about them.

When Solas initially approached the Inquisition and offered aid, I questioned him extensively about his background and history. He was evasive, but he did give the name of the village where he grew up, noting that it was small, unlikely to appear on any map.

I hate loose ends, so I kept a few of my agents searching, to verify his story. They recently located the village... or what remains of it. It is a ruin, as it has been for centuries, its name preserved only in degraded form in Ancient Tevinter mysteries. Whoever Solas truly is, wherever he came from, he has deceived us from the very start.

I apologize for not investigating this more thoroughly while Solas was here. He was clearly helping us, and other matters were of greater urgency, but it was an oversight nevertheless, given how little he shared with us. It is not clear what his plans are, if any, but I will continue to search.

Leliana

 

http://dragonage.wik...ex_entry:_Solas

 

I was just about to boot up my game to check, thanks for the time saver.

 

I guess here's hoping for some Solas DLC... or just Tevinter DLC in general.

[Exile Isan]

Skyhold does hold the Inquisition's whole army... sort of. If you go over to Cullen's tower and look over the side of the battlements you will see a ton of tents around the river on the ground.

[Exile Isan]

And a fight with cardboard cutout Darkspawn.  Someone in another thread showed us pics of it up close. It was hilarious!

Lol really! See this is why fly cam can be a bad thing.

[Carmen_Willow]

So this has been bugging me since when I first played, but I figured out a few points that don't make much sense.
 
Why is there nobody else at Skyhold? It seems like it would be a perfect Orlesian outpost, with it being so close to the Ferelden border. Also, why does Solas know where it is?

And lastly, how is it in such good condition? It's clearly pretty beat up on the inside, but structurally it held up amazingly given the probable wind all around it.

 

Thanks guys, and I guess it's possible I missed something in the game

1. Remote area, its presence lost to history, wards making it uncomfortable for the uninvited to approach it.

2. Solas is the one who placed the wards.

3. Dwarven engineering, or Elvhenan engineering. We know the Dwarves build to last for eons, and I'm guessing the Ancient Elves did as well.

[Sunnie]

1. Remote area, its presence lost to history, wards making it uncomfortable for the uninvited to approach it.

2. Solas is the one who placed the wards.

3. Dwarven engineering, or Elvhenan engineering. We know the Dwarves build to last for eons, and I'm guessing the Ancient Elves did as well.

Remote area, sure. Lost to history, certainly. Wards that make it uncomfortable?

 

There's no indication on who or when the magic was placed on the old structure, and there was nothing even remotely linking Solas as the imbuer, as yet.

 

We already know for sure that the castle and walls are Ferelden, built on top of the older Elven foundations. We also know that the Elven magic has imbued the newer structure, protecting it.

 

 

Got any citations for your assertions?

[Carmen_Willow]

Remote area, sure. Lost to history, certainly. Wards that make it uncomfortable?

 

There's no indication on who or when the magic was placed on the old structure, and there was nothing even remotely linking Solas as the imbuer, as yet.

 

We already know for sure that the castle and walls are Ferelden, built on top of the older Elven foundations. We also know that the Elven magic has imbued the newer structure, protecting it.

 

 

Got any citations for your assertions?

Nope, not a one. And not assertions, just musings and speculations and brainstorming. (We've seen wards before at the temple, making it uncomfortable to open the door.)  I do believe that Morrigan says the place is soaked with magic or something similar when she's in the garden talking about it.

[Mac007]

3. Dwarven engineering, or Elvhenan engineering. We know the Dwarves build to last for eons, and I'm guessing the Ancient Elves did as well.

 

Oh haha I guess I wasn't too clear. I didn't mean how is it still standing, I meant more like how are the outer walls not missing half the stone, or how does the mechanism for the front gate still work... my bad

[Gervaise]

I've just been doing my first time finding Skyhold as a human Inquisitor instead of an elf and the discussion with Solas after Haven took on a totally different meaning for me.   With an elf Inquisitor I feel he is trying to help me boost my standing and help me should there be a backlash over the orb being elven but with my Trevellyan believer, after he reveals the orb is elven and his concern about the backlash when people find out, I actually say to him if he's got anything else useful to assist, now would be the time to produce it.   To which he responds that I'm probably right about the timing and points me towards Skyhold.    It gave me the sense that he was trying to ensure he didn't suffer from any backlash.     Naturally at the time my Tevellyan just thinks Solas would be worried because he is an elf, not because he actually gave the orb to Corypheus.   However, unlike my elves who were really surprised when he up and left, I don't think Trev will be at all.  (Mind you he's not exactly in Solas' good books considering he allied with the Templars so he was rather surprised that Solas came up with something as good as Skyhold).

 

It does seem odd though that anyone would give it up unless it was too remote from anywhere to keep going, in which case it is odd that we don't seem to have any trouble with supplies getting through or our soldiers getting to where we need them.    The only time it becomes an issue is for What Pride Has Wrought, both getting them there and back again, which actually seems more realistic to the actual location. 

[Serelir]

Does anyone have a link for the notes that are posted around Skyhold from the master builder? There's one about someone falling from the scaffolding, and another mentions the two types of construction. I wasn't able to find them in the wiki.

[Mac007]

Does anyone have a link for the notes that are posted around Skyhold from the master builder? There's one about someone falling from the scaffolding, and another mentions the two types of construction. I wasn't able to find them in the wiki.

 

I tried looking for those entires but couldn't find them... however, I did find this (apparently this unlocks upon reaching Skyhold)

 

Inquisitor,

Your archivists have asked me how I came to know the name and location of Skyhold. To the latter, I may speak easily: when one walks in the Fade, any fortress that has seen enough battle shines as a beacon for spirits drawn to death and struggle, even after centuries of disuse.

As to the former, I myself cannot say for certain. The whispers of old memories carry a thousand such names upon their breath, and it is possible that this name belonged to some other keep in some other land. Still, it seems an auspicious name, for there is one peculiarity of language that your scholars seem to have missed. When the words reached my dreaming mind, Skyhold was not simply a fortress near the sky, nor was it some simplistic allusion to holding up the sky. Skyhold—Tarasyl'an te'las—was "the place where the sky was held back." Given your efforts against the Breach and our battle against a madman who seeks to assault the Black City in the Fade, I can only hope that the Inquisition's new stronghold lives up to its name.

Solas

[Mac007]

There's a lot of interesting bits of info here, have a look guys: http://dragonage.wik...try:_On_Skyhold

[Vovea]

The Magic Hat killed everybody, place is cursed guys.

 

[Serelir]

Here's the one I was thinking of, but it doesn't say a whole lot:

 

Spoiler

 

and the one about the bricks:

 

Spoiler

 

I love details like this! My own house is made of salvaged bricks - I wonder what stories they could tell.

[Ariella]

I was just about to boot up my game to check, thanks for the time saver.
 
I guess here's hoping for some Solas DLC... or just Tevinter DLC in general.

Not a problem. I really am hoping for a Skyhold dlc, potentially with lots of character bits.

[midnight tea]

I agree thinking that Solas may have spent time, even been born at what became Skyhold 

 

Yup, been thinking that that's a possibility too.

 

It might as well be possible that he (or whoever he works with or worked with in the past) made people not remember Skyhold. There's even a line Inquisitor tells to herself/himself when they walk around Skyhold, something like "Majestic. How could this place be ever forgotten?" that kinda tells me that somehow someone actively worked on Skyhold being forgotten...

[Ariella]

Yup, been thinking that that's a possibility too.
 
It might as well be possible that he (or whoever he works with or worked with in the past) made people not remember Skyhold. There's even a line Inquisitor tells to herself/himself when they walk around Skyhold, something like "Majestic. How could this place be ever forgotten?" that kinda tells me that somehow someone actively worked on Skyhold being forgotten...

You hit the quote about right.

I always felt from the Skyhold conversation with Morrigan that those who used Skyhold previously may have been 'encouraged' to move on. It's been waiting for someone.

I still want to know what made that damn hole in the prison. My first thought is dragon.

[midnight tea]

You hit the quote about right.

I always felt from the Skyhold conversation with Morrigan that those who used Skyhold previously may have been 'encouraged' to move on. It's been waiting for someone.

I still want to know what made that damn hole in the prison. My first thought is dragon.

 

Question is whether Quizzy is one it's been waiting for Next thing we know IQ might wake up on an empty field, all confused about Skyhold's location.

"Where did my fortress go!?"

 

 

Anyway... I keep returning to the prison, staring at the hole and trying to squeeze answer of it an the codex, but so far I got nothing substantial. Though I think it might have something to do with the build-up of some kind of energy... or maybe just water?

 

I mean, anyone finds it peculiar that Skyhold has its own WATERFALLS (seen both in Undercroft and prison)? And big ones at that.

 

Where all this water comes from? It can't be just melting snow - seems like there's a large spring underneath Skyhold... which lies on top of the mountain. Does it mean that whatever lies under Skyhold might be similar to Well Of Sorrows - only just constantly overflowing?

[Ariella]

Question is whether Quizzy is one it's been waiting for Next thing we know IQ might wake up on an empty field, all confused about Skyhold's location.
"Where did my fortress go!?"

Nah, Skyhold would get blown to kingdom come and then Solas would appear with another that looks exactly the same, but twice the size with new bells and whistles...

Anyway... I keep returning to the prison, staring at the hole and trying to squeeze answer of it an the codex, but so far I got nothing substantial. Though I think it might have something to do with the build-up of some kind of energy... or maybe just water?
 
I mean, anyone finds it peculiar that Skyhold has its own WATERFALLS (seen both in Undercroft and prison)? And big ones at that.
 
Where all this water comes from? It can't be just melting snow - seems like there's a large spring underneath Skyhold... which lies on top of the mountain. Does it mean that whatever lies under Skyhold might be similar to Well Of Sorrows - only just constantly overflowing?

Since we unfortunately see Skyhold from the outside during that epic New Zealand as Thedas mountain shot, I haven't been able to figure out how it fits into the mountain.

But that hole looks like something burst out. I don't think it was erosion. This will probably sound silly, but the visual just seems to catastrophic for running water. Silly, but still true.

Notice in Cullen's office and atop the main keep are owls we've seen elsewhere symbolizing the Keeper of Secrets if I recall.

[midnight tea]

Nah, Skyhold would get blown to kingdom come and then Solas would appear with another that looks exactly the same, but twice the size with new bells and whistles...

 

"What did you call it... a Space Station? .... Alright Mr. Spock."

 

 

 

 

Since we unfortunately see Skyhold from the outside during that epic New Zealand as Thedas mountain shot, I haven't been able to figure out how it fits into the mountain.

 

But that hole looks like something burst out. I don't think it was erosion. This will probably sound silly, but the visual just seems to catastrophic for running water. Silly, but still true.

 

Notice in Cullen's office and atop the main keep are owls we've seen elsewhere symbolizing the Keeper of Secrets if I recall.

 

Well, the water in prison seems to flow from directly below Skyhold - pretty deep into it as well, considering that the hole we see though which water goes through is pretty deep inside prison itself (or rather, below it). The internal river/waterfall itself (the visible part of it at least) lies pretty much right under Mage/Templar tower, while the entrance to prison levels is right below the garden.

Whether something else helped water 'punch' the wall is unknown - might be? The note (if I remember correctly) says however that the damage is similar to that someone has seen in dams, where water pushed and created tiny cracks that eventually weakened entire construction (I have to find the note though, I don't remember what exactly it said).

 

What's significant however is that mostly the floor and only part of the wall were damaged - the tall arch inside of which we see the damaged wall is intact. It's probably part of an older, sturdier structure.

[Serelir]

Here you go:

 

Spoiler