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I hope this is some kind of joke, and you're not actually parroting the same idiotic nonsense that Fox was saying about the first Mass Effect.

I don't parrot fox news.



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I don't parrot fox news.

 

Really? Because you said the same thing Fox did, only with different wording. You called it a creepy sex minigame, Fox lied and said ME had full nudity and equated it to hardcore pornography. You're both overtly lying about the sexual content in Bioware games in a deliberate attempt to misrepresent the content in question and make it look bad., I would guess to further some agenda (since you and a good number of others appear to be on some anti-Bioware hate crusade in favor of CDPR and The Witcher).

 

So yes, you're doing exactly what Fox did, only Fox later realized that what they said was ****ing stupid and apologized for it.



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Really? Because you said the same thing Fox did, only with different wording. You called it a creepy sex minigame, Fox lied and said ME had full nudity and equated it to hardcore pornography. You're both overtly lying about the sexual content in Bioware games in a deliberate attempt to misrepresent the content in question and make it look bad., I would guess to further some agenda (since you and a good number of others appear to be on some anti-Bioware hate crusade in favor of CDPR and The Witcher).

 

So yes, you're doing exactly what Fox did, only Fox later realized that what they said was ****ing stupid and apologized for it.

 

Meanwhile The Witcher 3 has full on thrusting.  :lol:



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Really? Because you said the same thing Fox did, only with different wording. You called it a creepy sex minigame, Fox lied and said ME had full nudity and equated it to hardcore pornography. You're both overtly lying about the sexual content in Bioware games in a deliberate attempt to misrepresent the content in question and make it look bad., I would guess to further some agenda (since you and a good number of others appear to be on some anti-Bioware hate crusade in favor of CDPR and The Witcher).

 

So yes, you're doing exactly what Fox did, only Fox later realized that what they said was ****ing stupid and apologized for it.

Lol what? Anti Bioware hate crusade?
And what are you (and the others here who always defend DA:I no matter what) on? The Bioware defense force, the Bioware apologists?
 

Some just didn't like DA:I and TW3 really is a great game (despite what some TW haters here think, most of them haven't even played the game)

thats it


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Meanwhile The Witcher 3 has full on thrusting.  :lol:

Hopefully Geralt isn't dry humping in pants anymore :P



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Hopefully Geralt isn't dry humping in pants anymore :P

Well, TW3 seems to have sex in underwear scenes. 



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Lol what? Anti Bioware hate crusade?
And what are you (and the others here who always defend DA:I no matter what) on? The Bioware defense force, the Bioware apologists?
 

Some just didn't like DA:I and TW3 really is a great game (despite what some TW haters here think, most of them haven't even played the game)

thats it

 

I have not "... always defend DAI no matter what". And I think it's hilarious that you say I'm on the Bioware defense force, when, if you had any knowledge of my prior post history, I thoroughly trashed Mass Effect 3 when it was the newest BW game. I hated ME3 even more than you appear to hate DAI.

 

But I'm on the Bioware defense force, I only think their previous game is the single worst piece of garbage I've ever played.

 

Also, I have to point out the hypocrisy in calling someone else "Bioware defense force", while at the same time never actually discussing any flaws with TW3 (though now that I mentioned it, I'm sure you'll mention some off-hand non-issues in an effort to show me that you aren't a fanboy), while at the same time going out of their way to mindlessly criticize another game and parrot words spouted from everyone else on the same side of the fence.



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I didn't like the replay value of DAI but I don't really understand saying a first playthrough wasn't good.  

 

Yeah, the first was good.

However, there was too much filler and the combat was pretty terrible (too easy and boring past level 10).

 

I think the problem is that TW3 is TERRIBLY awesome. It is just much better in many ways, due to:

1) Sticking to the same type of game and perfecting it

2) Much more resources (I think development in Poland is much cheaper than in US...)

 

The quests and main story are specially awesome, so much fun just by side questing.

 

In DAI, I would always skip all fetch sidequesting, and still feel overleveled without really being it.

In TW3, I cannot avoid doing all sidequests because they are awesome, I am a little bit overleveled, but the combat is difficult enough for me to have to pay attention nonetheless.



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Well If DAI is a mess. It is my kind of mess and I will continue to enjoy it! Bring on more DLC and let DA4 be more of the same with more shine and polish!


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You know what else is a mess? BSN but I don't see you complaining about that.


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Really? Because you said the same thing Fox did, only with different wording. You called it a creepy sex minigame, Fox lied and said ME had full nudity and equated it to hardcore pornography. You're both overtly lying about the sexual content in Bioware games in a deliberate attempt to misrepresent the content in question and make it look bad., I would guess to further some agenda (since you and a good number of others appear to be on some anti-Bioware hate crusade in favor of CDPR and The Witcher).

 

So yes, you're doing exactly what Fox did, only Fox later realized that what they said was ****ing stupid and apologized for it.

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Perhaps I should have been more specific by saying that the way the fan base responds to it is creepy. It's still a shallow mini-game that rewards the player with sex. I have a hunch that it's only included because Bioware isn't looking forward to the rabid fan response should they decide to leave it out for once.



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Perhaps I should have been more specific by saying that the way the fan base responds to it is creepy. It's still a shallow mini-game that rewards the player with sex. I have a hunch that it's only included because Bioware isn't looking forward to the rabid fan response should they decide to leave it out for once.

 

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I really liked the Garrus romance arc, it had little to nothing to do with sex really (in fact, you're better off not thinking too hard about it), same goes for the Jack romance. The Tali sweat thing though... good god.



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Perhaps I should have been more specific by saying that the way the fan base responds to it is creepy. It's still a shallow mini-game that rewards the player with sex. I have a hunch that it's only included because Bioware isn't looking forward to the rabid fan response should they decide to leave it out for once.

 

Okay, except it's still not a minigame, unless you're willing to call literally every other interaction in the game a minigame, since it doesn't deviate from the same basic "NPC talks --> choose dialogue --> watch cutscene" paradigm. A sex minigame would be what one sees in the God of War series.

 

Also, "the way the fanbase responds to it"? That terminology isn't nebulous as all hell and isn't made to color a lot of people in a negative light at all.

 

@bold: I have a hunch too, that you're making presumptions out of literally nothing and have no way of knowing Bioware's intentions. Their games have had romances since AT LEAST the original KotOR (the earliest BW game I've played, I can't speak for Baldur's Gate or anything older).



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I have not "... always defend DAI no matter what". And I think it's hilarious that you say I'm on the Bioware defense force, when, if you had any knowledge of my prior post history, I thoroughly trashed Mass Effect 3 when it was the newest BW game. I hated ME3 even more than you appear to hate DAI.

 

But I'm on the Bioware defense force, I only think their previous game is the single worst piece of garbage I've ever played.

 

Also, I have to point out the hypocrisy in calling someone else "Bioware defense force", while at the same time never actually discussing any flaws with TW3 (though now that I mentioned it, I'm sure you'll mention some off-hand non-issues in an effort to show me that you aren't a fanboy), while at the same time going out of their way to mindlessly criticize another game and parrot words spouted from everyone else on the same side of the fence.

Dude calm down you called and generalized the one's who were complaining about DA:I as people who were on a "Anti Bioware hate crusade"

so since you always defend DA:I (I always see you jump at people for criticizing it) I asked you what you should be called..jeez

I suppose I should correct it to DA:I defense force?

 

Saying that ME3 is the worst piece of garbage and then saying that mindlessly criticize DA:I is quite silly too

I have already explained why I think DA:I is a terrible game (quite in detail too but I guess it goes both ways, I didn't have any knowledge of your post history either)

 

And why should I discuss TW3's flaws here? Its the feedback section for DA:I not TW3
It does have a few flaws and is in fact not perfect



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Okay, except it's still not a minigame. A sex minigame would be what one sees in the God of War series.

 

Also, "the way the fanbase responds to it"? That terminology isn't nebulous as all hell and isn't made to color a lot of people in a negative light at all.

 

@bold: I have a hunch too, that you're making presumptions out of literally nothing and have no way of knowing Bioware's intentions. Their games have had romances since AT LEAST the original KotOR (the earliest BW game I've played, I can't speak for Baldur's Gate or anything older).

Oh, come on. Now you're just being nit picky with my word choice here. Instead or rotating the sticks, you choose the right dialogue and he or she falls in love with you. You can call it whatever you want though.

 

It was intended to be negative.

 

Right. Well, I'd still be very curious to find out. But I think you'd have to be naive to believe the fan base would respond in an understanding manner to Bioware putting out a game without the possibility of having a digital girlfriend/boyfriend.



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Okay, except it's still not a minigame, unless you're willing to call literally every other interaction in the game a minigame, since it doesn't deviate from the same basic "NPC talks --> choose dialogue --> watch cutscene" paradigm. A sex minigame would be what one sees in the God of War series.

 

Also, "the way the fanbase responds to it"? That terminology isn't nebulous as all hell and isn't made to color a lot of people in a negative light at all.

 

@bold: I have a hunch too, that you're making presumptions out of literally nothing and have no way of knowing Bioware's intentions. Their games have had romances since AT LEAST the original KotOR (the earliest BW game I've played, I can't speak for Baldur's Gate or anything older).

 

Baldur's Gate 1&2 and NWN all had romances. It has been in almost all of the Bioware games since the first one. The only exception I think is the Sonic game.



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you jump at people for criticizing it

 

People do that, a lot. For example look at this post. Got called "a troll" for criticising DA:I. But more interesting thing is: by whom.

 

http://forum.bioware...2#entry17792260

 

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The thing with The Iron Bull being animated for all races and genders was done off the clock, actually. John Epler used his own time to make that happen. That's what I heard, anyway.


That reminds me.

... Look, Bioware made this game for people to enjoy. Plenty of them still do, most of them choosing to play it without announcing it on these boards. Even those who seemingly would have to be paid to finish it post their criticism in the hopes to get BW to realize the potential (whatever that means - DAO2 or BG3 or HL3, take your pick).

Bioware neither want you to suffer through DAI nor do they want to brainwash you on account of some pc agenda. A lot of working hours still went into that game, its lore and dialogues as well as its environments. You want BW to improve on what we got this time around, you're in the right place to help, thanks for caring, but accusing the developers of gutting their own game won't result in making the next one any better.
I like how lenient the mods seem to be around here (they kept one of brevnau's threads around if I'm not mistaken), but how some complaints are worded is uncalled for.
Bottom line: You cannot hold a game developer ransom with the accomplishments of another, and neither should you.

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Oh, come on. Now you're just being nit picky with my word choice here. Instead or rotating the sticks, you choose the right dialogue and he or she falls in love with you. You can call it whatever you want though.

 

No I'm not. You called it a mini game, and I told you that it is not a mini game. A mini game is a smaller, more condensed game that is played within another game. the simple act of making dialogue choices is not itself a mini game unless you plan on diluting the label and applying it to every single interaction, which you clearly aren't going to do because that wouldn't fit your narrative. I'm not nitpicking, you used that word improperly and are now trying to backpedal and somehow make me the one at fault.

 

 

It was intended to be negative.

 

Clearly, which is why I said as much.

 

Right. Well, I'd still be very curious to find out. But I think you'd have to be naive to believe the fan base would respond in an understanding manner to Bioware putting out a game without the possibility of having a digital girlfriend/boyfriend.

 

I never said anything to that effect. I never said anything about how people would react to a romance-free Bioware game. Needless to say, it's a moot point. Romances are a staple to Bioware's formula, and apparently have been since day one, and have consistently received praise from people. They will not be going anywhere for the foreseeable future.



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People do that, a lot. For example look at this post. Got called "a troll" for criticising DA:I. But more interesting thing is: by whom.

 

http://forum.bioware...2#entry17792260

 

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People do that, a lot. For example look at this post. Got called "a troll" for criticising DA:I. But more interesting thing is: by whom.

 

http://forum.bioware...2#entry17792260

 

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I'm getting tired of explaining this (others have already asked me) but this was actually my bro's acc who doesn't use it anymore

 

Why would I change my opinion about the game this much?



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Dude calm down you called and generalized the one's who were complaining about DA:I as people who were on a "Anti Bioware hate crusade"

 

Yes, because there are people who genuinely seem to hate the game and claim it to be an irredeemable failure, and that Bioware is a terrible company for having allowed such a game to be sold for money. You're one of those people who say things along those lines. I would list some more names, but I think that would count as calling them out, which is against the rules.

 

so since you always defend DA:I (I always see you jump at people for criticizing it) I asked you what you should be called..jeez

 

I suppose I should correct it to DA:I defense force?

 

Half the time when I talk about DAI, I don't even give my opinion of it. When I DO defend it, it's either to make a point about how people are praising another company for doing the same thing while trashing Bioware, or to brush aside meaningless nonsense complaints that have no merit. It's not my fault that a lot of people are finicky and stupid and will complain about literally anything, from actual game-breaking flaws to the sand in the Western Approach being "too orange", and treating that like it's legitimately ruining their gameplay.

 

Saying that ME3 is the worst piece of garbage and then saying that mindlessly criticize DA:I is quite silly too

 

Right, because saying "It sucks" and "worst game I've ever played" and "Bioware is becoming greedy and evil" is so constructive. When I levied my complaints about ME3, I actually levied my complaints, I didn't just shriek on about something that I vaguely found distasteful, I coherently put my posts together and laid out what I disliked, why I disliked it, and what I thought would improve on it. You know, like how you should do when giving feedback.

 

I have already explained why I think DA:I is a terrible game (quite in detail too but I guess it goes both ways, I didn't have any knowledge of your post history either)

 

Yeah, didn't you also once praise the game before too? 

 

And why should I discuss TW3's flaws here? Its the feedback section for DA:I not TW3

 

Because you're really quick to tell people how excellent TW3 is and how great CDPR are as a company. I'm sure that if I didn't predict that you would do it and thus bring attention to it, that you actually would have done it by now.

 

I'm getting tired of explaining this (others have already asked me) but this was actually my bro's acc who doesn't use it anymore

 

That's really convenient, isn't it?


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Baldur's Gate 1&2 and NWN all had romances. It has been in almost all of the Bioware games since the first one. The only exception I think is the Sonic game.

the Sonic game


How'd that happen?

/Edit: The more you know http://forum.bioware...make-this-game/

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The only exception I think is the Sonic game.

 

I did want to play this game at one point in the past, when I saw my nephew playing it on his DS. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any of my own copies of it anywhere, and the only games I really played on my DS at the time were Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh. I've heard some decent things about it, but from what I can tell, the reaction to the game seems more or less split.



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I'm getting tired of explaining this (others have already asked me) but this was actually my bro's acc who doesn't use it anymore


How convenient.

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How convenient.

Believe what you want I couldn't care less

Why would I change my opinion about a game this much? especially since the problems I have with it are so big that the whole game would need to be completely different for me to like it

 

Screw logic I guess