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I already posted this on a different board, but I want to ask the multiplayer community, do you think that dragon age will appear at E3?

I would be shocked if ME4 isn't showcased. However, I could also see dragon age having a new dlc announced and then the "and it's available right now!"

It has been 2 1/2 months since jaws, and a month 1/2 since dragonslayer. So I think that we are about due for another dlc, and E3 seems like a solid time to release it in front of the largest possible crowd.

What do you guys think?

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I guess EA will do it's talk about how succesfull DA:I was for them and then do a short announcement that a new DLC pack is incoming. Don't expect anything big, the main focus of E3 is on games to come, not on games that have been. Plus, no-one really cares about your new multiplayer enemy faction if you're talking about the new Mass Effect 2 minutes later.



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Laidlaw has gone on record about a future single player DLC, which is apparently a hot-button topic (semi-cliff hanger ending and all). Hinted to be delving into Solas a bit more. Nothing else known. No release date. E3 would be an ideal place to hype that up, if there is any talk about DAI. Multiplayer announcements are unlikely for E3, though, unless it's filler.

 

As T_elic said, E3 is often about new games, and the Mass Effect IP is kind of the unofficial "flagship" nowadays. I'd expect maybe some videos. Hopefully none of EA's infamous "in game engine" *cough*pre-rendered*cough* nonsense like what was seen with Battlefront, but this early on it's likely to be more teasers and assets than anything. Who knows? There may even be a carefully hidden new IP lurking.

I'd also note that BioWare may also talk about SWTOR. They definitely put some serious marketing into that game still, as I imagine it still earns a solid recurring income from subs/MTs. Star Wars in general has seen a bit of a resurgence from the Episode VII and Battlefront hype, so that's a good game to talk about from a PR standpoint.



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The baton is passed.

Dragon Age's time at shows now belongs to Mass Effect.

 

DAI is likely to have:

  • One more single player dlc (two if we're lucky)
  • One more multiplayer dlc (two if we're lucky)

Then BioWare (DA) will curl up in its hibernation shell and work on DA4 until it unfurls from hibernation in 2017.



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DAI is likely to have:

  • One more single player dlc (two if we're lucky)
  • One more multiplayer dlc (two if we're lucky)

Then BioWare (DA) will curl up in its hibernation shell and work on DA4 until it unfurls from hibernation in 2017.

 

Uhm, I am thinking at least 2 more for SP, period. If it has only one, then basically DA2, the game they consider as their biggest failure will have had more DLCs/support than DA:I which did much better (in terms of sales and critical reviews).

 

P.S. Also, sue me but I am not super excited about their E3 ME4 announcements. Point is, I want a game that is more ME1 (in terms of story and content), but I bet ME4 will be more like ME3. Hoping for a good MP though.


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Uhm, I am thinking at least 2 more for SP, period. If it has only one, then basically DA2, the game they consider as their biggest failure will have had more DLCs/support than DA:I which did much better (in terms of sales and critical reviews).

P.S. Also, sue me but I am not super excited about their E3 ME4 announcements. Point is, I want a game that is more ME1 (in terms of story and content), but I bet ME4 will be more like ME3. Hoping for a good MP though.


Hey, I liked DA2! I am hipster, hear me rawr.

I also liked ME3 until the endings, it really p*ssed me off that they thought green was the best primary colour. FU biower, blue 4 lyfe.
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The baton is passed.

Dragon Age's time at shows now belongs to Mass Effect.

 

DAI is likely to have:

  • One more single player dlc (two if we're lucky)
  • One more multiplayer dlc (two if we're lucky)

Then BioWare (DA) will curl up in its hibernation shell and work on DA4 until it unfurls from hibernation in 2017.

 

I'd say 2 SPs.

 

And IRC there are going to be 5 DLCs for MP. We already got Destruction and now Dragonslayer.



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Hey, I liked DA2! I am hipster, hear me rawr.

I also liked ME3 until the endings, it really p*ssed me off that they thought green was the best primary colour. FU biower, blue 4 lyfe.

 

I liked DA2, too.  ^_^ At least parts of it, didn't enjoy the repetitive copy and paste levels but I liked Hawke's story and the characters.

 

Parts of ME3 were excellent, too. I especially enjoyed the end of the Genophage sublot, it was sublime. But the colour fiasco lost me. :P


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I liked DA2, too. ^_^ At least parts of it, didn't enjoy the repetitive copy and paste levels but I liked Hawke's story and the characters.

Parts of ME3 were excellent, too. I especially enjoyed the end of the Genophage sublot, it was sublime. But the colour fiasco lost me. :P


Ah, colourgate. The amount of rage... We shall never see its like again!
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FU biower, blue 4 lyfe.

 

Green rulz. Learn your place, blue peasant! Trololol

 

I really hope they actually use ME4 as a opportunity to tell the rumoured story about the "dark energy creatures" that eat suns. That subplot in ME2 was so intriguing, but seeing ME3 devolve into a rather simplistic and cliche route was unfortunate. I really wanted to see it become about the Reapers taking the extreme measures they did because it was the only thing holding back a far more sinister evil.

Then again, I kind of still hope the same thing, in a way, for Dragon Age: The "old gods" are in a state of stasis as a result of a spell to trap a malevolent force in the Black City. The taint, being the influence of this malevolent force, corrupts the old gods and turns them into archdemons so the Grey Wardens will slay them, and thus break one of the chains holding this evil at bay. The very thing you were lead to believe was "right" turns out to be the agent of your own destruction.

 

What can I say? I enjoy a good plot twist.


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Green rulz. Learn your place, blue peasant! Trololol

 

I really hope they actually use ME4 as a opportunity to tell the rumoured story about the "dark energy creatures" that eat suns. That subplot in ME2 was so intriguing, but seeing ME3 devolve into a rather simplistic and cliche route was unfortunate. I really wanted to see it become about the Reapers taking the extreme measures they did because it was the only thing holding back a far more sinister evil.

Then again, I kind of still hope the same thing, in a way, for Dragon Age: The "old gods" are in a state of stasis as a result of a spell to trap a malevolent force in the Black City. The taint, being the influence of this malevolent force, corrupts the old gods and turns them into archdemons so the Grey Wardens will slay them, and thus break one of the chains holding this evil at bay. The very thing you were lead to believe was "right" turns out to be the agent of your own destruction.

 

What can I say? I enjoy a good plot twist.

 

Red for me. :lol:

 

And imho, it will be interesting to finally see the dark energy plot. Because there were so many hints in ME1 & ME2 and we are led to believe that some sinister event is about to happen and then in ME3...  :mellow: Oh, sorry, we forgot about dark energy, this never happened pls. But the lead writer of ME1/2 left and I guess they didn't want to go into that direction. Plus, from what I've read in his interviews, the idea was really underdeveloped.

 

As for the old gods, while your idea sounds awesome Mortiel, I do like how the Golden city was tainted because of the hubris of the old magisters. Idk, I guess it's similar to how in life we people ruin everything because of our own selfish desires. :D But BW has a lot of room there for a really amazing story with plot twists and interesting events. The ball is in their court now.



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Hey, I liked DA2! I am hipster, hear me rawr.

I also liked ME3 until the endings, it really p*ssed me off that they thought green was the best primary colour. FU biower, blue 4 lyfe.

I too enjoyed DA II.

I must now cleanse myself with purifying fire.

Oh and I, being the authority on correct choices went red in ME3.

Blue is for TIM fanboys and green is for "must have everybody win" hippies.

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Time heals. 

Don't get too fixated about 'The Cave' and DA2 is fine.

Most people can find a ME3 colour they can live with in the end... (Blue).

Who knows, DAI will be regarded a masterpiece once DA4 launches.



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As for the old gods, while your idea sounds awesome Mortiel, I do like how the Golden city was tainted because of the hubris of the old magisters. Idk, I guess it's similar to how in life we people ruin everything because of our own selfish desires. :D But BW has a lot of room there for a really amazing story with plot twists and interesting events. The ball is in their court now.


But it wasn't tainted, at least according to Cory in DA2. He made it clear that the City was already Black when he got there, and the whole Golden City was religious propaganda. Not far from your "humans muck things up" take on it, though... Just a different group of them lol.

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Nothing DA-related at E3 this year.
 
From Ye Olde Twitter Thread:

 

https://twitter.com/...452521879277568
 
User 19h
@BioMarkDarrah Are we getting any Dragon Age surprise at E3?

Mark Darrah
@user it wouldn't be a surprise if I told you.
But no.
 


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I'm currently playing SWTOR, and it seems that they are focusing on that game for E3, which is disappointing because I was hoping they'd fix some of the more glaring bugs in DAI (I still refuse to play until my male elf's arms are fixed) and perhaps announce another story-related DLC.

 

Still, the new update for SWTOR was leaked today (silly webmasters need to learn how to hide their unannounced pages) and I am looking forward to it.



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Hah! Good one OP. They'd have to hope that newcomers didn't read BSN prior to purchase.
 

 

Point is, I want a game that is more ME1 (in terms of story and content),

You could've stopped there. I'm with TeamNoMP. Sit the MP out a year after the SP and sell it separately. Do these publishers not have enough faith in their devs that they can't pull off a successful subsequent MP title a year later? 



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I'm currently playing SWTOR, and it seems that they are focusing on that game for E3, which is disappointing because I was hoping they'd fix some of the more glaring bugs in DAI (I still refuse to play until my male elf's arms are fixed) and perhaps announce another story-related DLC.

Still, the new update for SWTOR was leaked today (silly webmasters need to learn how to hide their unannounced pages) and I am looking forward to it.


The DA and SWTOR teams are not related. In fact I think they might even be in difference BioWare offices. EDIT: BW Austin handles SWTOR and DA. BW Edmonton handles DA, but probably not the patches as much as DLC.

E3 is a show. A spectacle. Companies are showing off. It is, in no way, a requirement for DA to have a presence at E3 in order to release subsequent patches/DLC.

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Uhm, I am thinking at least 2 more for SP, period. If it has only one, then basically DA2, the game they consider as their biggest failure will have had more DLCs/support than DA:I which did much better (in terms of sales and critical reviews).

 

P.S. Also, sue me but I am not super excited about their E3 ME4 announcements. Point is, I want a game that is more ME1 (in terms of story and content), but I bet ME4 will be more like ME3. Hoping for a good MP though.

Yeah, I would be shocked if their "most successful launch" got only 2 small DLCs (they said no expansions) and their worst launch got 3 with an expansion planned that got cancelled. As for MP, it really does seem like they're letting their "most successful launch" go to waste, if you look at the phenomenal support ME3MP had comparatively :mellow:

 

As for ME4, well... my enthusiasm for ME has been killed, resurrected and then killed again a few times. I'm just done with it. Obviously I'll wait for reviews before thinking about getting it, but even then, I'm worried that the first game might be good, the second game might be great, but the third game will disregard its series within 10 minutes of the end (assuming new trilogy). I don't want to have to wait 5-7 years to decide to get it or not, but I'm kind of stuck unless they confirm it's stand-alone.



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Hey, I liked DA2! I am hipster, hear me rawr.

I also liked ME3 until the endings, it really p*ssed me off that they thought green was the best primary colour. FU biower, blue 4 lyfe.

Well, actually high-EMS destroy (the breath scene) requires more EMS than synthesis, making it the best ending according to difficulty to achieve.

 

I'm with the others who went red, always. It's the best in every way.



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Well, actually high-EMS destroy (the breath scene) requires more EMS than synthesis, making it the best ending according to difficulty to achieve.

I'm with the others who went red, always. It's the best in every way.


Yeah, I tended to alternate between red + breath scene and blue, but the way they sold the synthesis ending, it seemed clear they thought it was the best option. Especially with extended cut.

Heh, remember indoctrination theory? Make it canon! Biower pls.

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Well, actually high-EMS destroy (the breath scene) requires more EMS than synthesis, making it the best ending according to difficulty to achieve.

 

I'm with the others who went red, always. It's the best in every way.

But the poor geth... and EDI, and all the other synthetics didn't deserve to die just for organics to protect themselves. #blueisbetterforeveryonebutshepard


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You could've stopped there. I'm with TeamNoSP. Sit the SP out a year after the MP and sell it separately. Do these publishers not have enough faith in their devs that they can't pull off a successful subsequent SP title a year later? 

Fix'd that for you. Multiplayer was and is the best part of ME3! :lol:


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Yeah, I tended to alternate between red + breath scene and blue, but the way they sold the synthesis ending, it seemed clear they thought it was the best option. Especially with extended cut.

Heh, remember indoctrination theory? Make it canon! Biower pls.

Most of my posts are actually from the IT thread :lol: It was brilliant, canon or not. But you're right. They seemed to act like it was the best. Which has me worrying for their collective sanity/morality.

 

But the poor geth... and EDI, and all the other synthetics didn't deserve to die just for organics to protect themselves. #blueisbetterforeveryonebutshepard

Well, see, I can see it 2 ways:

 

1. Do they deserve to die? Of course not, but you're talking about an individual and a race that consists entirely of soldiers, and both EDI and the Geth say flat-out that they will do anything, including be rendered non-functional, to defeat the reapers. The risk of having the reapers still around is too great. (Also, if they wanted us to actually feel bad, they could have shown us the Geth/EDI dying. I find it curious they didn't, even in the EC.)

 

2. I prefer to headcanon the indoctrination theory, in which case they aren't even dead anyway :P


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But it wasn't tainted, at least according to Cory in DA2. He made it clear that the City was already Black when he got there, and the whole Golden City was religious propaganda. Not far from your "humans muck things up" take on it, though... Just a different group of them lol.

 

True. I guess I just didn't think that Cory was telling the truth. :lol:  Though, we truly have so very little information about it that at this point BW can truly do whatever they want with it. Most of what we have is information from the Chantry (who are... not the most reliable source of information, since they tend to turn everything into propaganda) and part of it is Cory (who also isn't).

 

 

 

Most of my posts are actually from the IT thread  :lol: It was brilliant, canon or not. But you're right. They seemed to act like it was the best. Which has me worrying for their collective sanity/morality.

 

The IT thread was just glorious. I am not a fan to be honest, but it's quite ingenious, thought out (some reeeeeally amazing posts and explanations from our forumers) and if you want to look at things from this point of you it's almost canon. :lol: