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[GruntKitterhand]

In the last year or so, I haven't met a single pug using any of those kits that was any good. 

 

In the last day or so, I haven't met a single pug host using anything other than one of those kits.  None of them stood out in any way.

 

I played a load of games with what is admittedly a seemingly inexperienced account - N7120, 4K CP, but I always had equipment of some description.  I had at least 4 hosts change over to TGI/Harrier, AIU/Reegar or Jugg/Reegar after I arrived in the lobby, on top of all the ones who were already playing those kits.  I can only assume that they thought they were going to have to carry my Krentinel/Claymore, Volus Merc/Falcon, Paladin/Hurricane, Paladin/Talon, TSent/Lancer, TSent/Arc Pistol, SE/Scorpion, KroSol/Graal, KroSol/Striker, QMI/Crusader, QMI/Valiant, QME/Arc Pistol.  Now ok, so all of those weapons are at level 1-3, and my Grenade Gear is only at 2, but if one of those kits appeared in my lobby I wouldn't automatically think, "Oh dear, noob alert."  

 

Do they never get bored?  Especially the Juggs? Oh dear sweet Jeebus the melee-Juggs!  I mean, at least the other two usual suspects actually kill stuff quickly. 

[Pint]

ofc they don't get bored, as long at they get some credits they're happy.

for some real typical stuff, ran into a jugg on my alt last night using a reegar w/ an omniblade with a spitfire w/ an omniblade as well. the heavy melee spam is real.

[Kenny Bania]

ofc they don't get bored, as long at they get some credits they're happy.

for some real typical stuff, ran into a jugg on my alt last night using a reegar w/ an omniblade with a spitfire w/ an omniblade as well. the heavy melee spam is real.

 

 

That doesn't slow the game down at all. It's common knowledge.

[Pint]

That doesn't slow the game down at all. It's common knowledge.

 

ikr, really speeds up my rio/dagger/condor/hydra matches!

[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

I can't say that I'm awfully bothered by what other people use. On the whole, I'd rather that the pugs play kits that they are comfortable with and can contribute with. Maybe the melee jugg player wouldn't be able to play the Valkyrie effectively. Maybe the TGI player who bottom scores with the Harrier wouldn't have contributed much if they used the DAI with a Mantis. Besides, why should  object to someone else's tryhard kit if they don't object to my stupid builds or underpowered kit setups - like my Incisor HMI, for one

 

Some people like variety, and a lot of people here on BSN make a point of playing all the kits, or most of them. But then, some of the consistently good pugging players use only one or two kits. I can think of one on PC who almost only ever plays the QFE, for example. Actually, we recently had a thread about single-kit players, didn't we?

[Brannigans 1ove]

Warlords are the most annoying overused kit by PUGs IMO.  Mostly because they just end up getting repeatedly killed surrounded by enemies.  Melee juggs I don't mind, simply because whilst they may be only killing very slowly, at least they are still alive and contributing.  Even if that contribution is as an aggro dump.

[GruntKitterhand]

ofc they don't get bored, as long at they get some credits they're happy.

 

That's the thing though, they don't always even seem to be bothered about the credits.  I was in a pretty tough trio, capping wave 10 devices on Ghost Hazard against Collectors.  The last one was beside the ammo box just above the LZ, but me and the other non-Jugg got taken down simultaneously while trying to cover each other.  No gels left, got stomped.  The Jugg had over 3 minutes to finish it off, but chose to stand inside the building up to the right above the LZ, meleeing everything, dying, gelling, meleeing everything, dying, rocketing not once but twice, without ever attempting to kite or go near the device.  You can't defend that on any level, it's just bad play.

 

And Mark, I don't generally care what other people play in the slightest, but I commented because in the cases I mentioned, I specified that they changed to those kits, presumably because they thought they would have to carry me because I wasn't using one of them.  I'm worried that as the playerbase dwindles, this mentality will spread even further and THERE WILL BE NO ESCAPE!!!

[Caineghis2500]

Top 3 I saw were

TGI: Harrier
Puggernauts
Acolyte Trooper

[PatrickBateman]

End of the day it's bad players that annoy more than the actual kits used.

Some time ago I was left alone to clutch wave 10 in a platinum game as the SI, the pugs bleed out/got synced early on as is common, I don't mind really to clutch now and then but one of the damn pugs had the nerve to say over the mic "just bleed out man so I can get the credits". I treated him and the other two pugs to a prolonged spectating show where I was running from one end of the map to the other over and over again after that.

Bad players/leeches are a million times worse than OP kits, and don't even get me started on the pugs that use cast macros to avoid auto kicks during pug matches....

[Pint]

@grunt:

trust me man, I don't get it either and it drives me a little wild that they're just fine with it.

 

 

@cain:

oddly enough, I usually see vorcha soldiers/sentinels a lot more than geth troopers recently when it comes to flamer kits.

[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

 

And Mark, I don't generally care what other people play in the slightest, but I commented because in the cases I mentioned, I specified that they changed to those kits, presumably because they thought they would have to carry me because I wasn't using one of them.  I'm worried that as the playerbase dwindles, this mentality will spread even further and THERE WILL BE NO ESCAPE!!!

LOL Grunt, don't panic yet

 

My remarks were generally addressed to the thread, not your comment in particular. I guess we'd have to know what their pug experiences were to understand their thoiught processes, but maybe they're seen a lot of people using those kits and suffering. And that said, I think you're lucky that they switched kits to "carry" you, becaus eon my alt I simply get kicked most of the time. One guy recently got on the mic and said - they addressed it to me directly - "Do you understand this is Gold we're playing?" ( )  So I spent the game following him around and stealing his kills

 

So, taking that last line in tow, there's also no telling how much of it is caused by BSNers with alt accounts trolling you/us

[Indoctornated]

 

bet you respec before you took this picture.

 

I was going to say Ninja'd and went looking for my post that said "I wonder how long it took him to get that respec card?" And it's gone? ... Guys! Stop abusing reporting on-topic replies because BioMods don't know what's on topic or not already! Grow up already! EDIT - nvm. I found my missing post posted elsewhere... so stop telling mods to move my posts!

[Caineghis2500]

@cain:
oddly enough, I usually see vorcha soldiers/sentinels a lot more than geth troopers recently when it comes to flamer kits.

I don't find it odd tbh. Each persons repeated encounter with certain kits while pugging is different. Just so happens that in my pugging experience those were my top 3 of repeated encounters

[GruntKitterhand]

LOL Grunt, don't panic yet

 

....there's also no telling how much of it is caused by BSNers with alt accounts trolling you/us

 

Haha, yeah, it did cross my mind, but I believe there are fewer 'alts' on Xbox, apart from my own, obviously. 

 

I'm also not sure even I would use a TGI/Harrier without TC as a troll build.  I mean, I always thought a no Overload build was the preferred scrub option. 

[Indoctornated]

Yeah, I too see most pugs when playing Flamer they play the Vorcha's. Then again I do pug Gold mostly, so that may be a reason (Bloodlust is very helpful on Gold unlike not so helpful on Platinum). Otherwise when I see Flamer Geth Troopers, I almost always see them with Acolyte and Cryo ammo a la that one Caineghis Platinum made easy video.

 

I honestly wish folks playing Vorcha Flamers would just learn how to detonate Flamer.

[Urizen]

Most VFlamers I came across want others to detonate their flames. If I am playing a class capable of doing so, I will do so. If not, I´m busy detonating me own stuff or can´t do it. But here´s what I find irritating. Some ppl are hellbent on playing a flamer kit, yet noone in the lobby can detonate it. If those were guys new to ME3MP, I wouldn´t mind, but heck, a lot of those guys have cp 10-25 times as much as me ( I´m approaching the 800 here ). So they should know which kits can or cannot det.

[PatrickBateman]

Most VFlamers I came across want others to detonate their flames. If I am playing a class capable of doing so, I will do so. If not, I´m busy detonating me own stuff or can´t do it. But here´s what I find irritating. Some ppl are hellbent on playing a flamer kit, yet noone in the lobby can detonate it. If those were guys new to ME3MP, I wouldn´t mind, but heck, a lot of those guys have cp 10-25 times as much as me ( I´m approaching the 800 here ). So they should know which kits can or cannot det.

Well flamer by it self does so much damage no detonation is really needed for it to be OP.

[valium]

screen-shaker spammers when I am using a sniper rifle.

 

because you know those screen-shakers are going to be humping your leg the entire match.

[Urizen]

Well flamer by it self does so much damage no detonation is really needed for it to be OP.

 

True. Mooks go down before I can det. Bosses most of the time are a different matter. At least from what I´ve seen so far, flamers go down way before the boss. But then again, it could be simple bad play. I don´t have the experience of you guys.

[PatrickBateman]

Atlas and Prime shields take a bit longer with flamer, especially on Platinum - it's why people use highly effective shield strippers like the Acolyte to take them down faster (Talon is pretty good also for that task).

[q5tyhj]

screen-shaker spammers when I am using a sniper rifle.

 

because you know those screen-shakers are going to be humping your leg the entire match.

You try to use a sniper in my lobby, I switch to my Venom BatSent and follow you around throwing Shockwaves at your feet. 

[GruntKitterhand]

You try to use a sniper in my lobby, I switch to my Venom BatSent and follow you around throwing Shockwaves at your feet. 

 

Whaddya mean, you switch to your Venom?!? Otherwise, QFT 

[justinman114]

Melee Jugg.  Why??

 

I entered a PUG the other day where all 3 other players were Juggs and all they did was melee.  It took fo'EVAH.

[Kenny Bania]

Melee Jugg.  Why??
 
I entered a PUG the other day where all 3 other players were Juggs and all they did was melee.  It took fo'EVAH.

MELEE JUGGS DO NOT SLOW THE GAME DOWN PEOPLE!!!!!!

[justinman114]

MELEE JUGGS DO NOT SLOW THE GAME DOWN PEOPLE!!!!!!

So a 30+ minute Glacier/Gold is normal?  I had 170,000+ points and almost more than all 3 Juggs combined.  Maybe 1 melee Jugg is okay but 3 is a joke.