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#926
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No, it wasn't. Try again.

 

That was the clear implication of the comment. What then was it's meaning and purpose?


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That was the clear implication of the comment. What then was it's meaning and purpose?

 

I said constantly talking about something that upsets you--for years, at this point-- is bad for your health, and it is.

 

It's fine to complain about something that upsets you, but if you keep going long enough the complaining just becomes a self-feeding cycle of misery that you constantly complain about, therefore making it worse. It's the kind of things that causes people serious mental and social problems.

 

And for future reference, that was the "clear" implication.


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I said constantly talking about something that upsets you--for years, at this point-- is bad for your health, and it is.

 

It's fine to complain about something that upsets you, but if you keep going long enough the complaining just becomes a self-feeding cycle of misery that you constantly complain about, therefore making it worse. It's the kind of things that causes people serious mental and social problems.

 

And for future reference, that was the "clear" implication.

 

No, that's the comment on it's face. The implication is what lies underneath. Nobody wanted or needed your psychological assessment. I don't know for certain, but I don't think King Dragonlord is frothing at the mouth, drooling on his computer with a poster of Shepard with a Joker face drawn on it, crying himself to sleep over ME3.

 

It's not simply ranting and raving either. The previous game in a series and from the same company is very relevant to discussions of later titles.


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No, that's the comment on it's face. The implication is what lies underneath.

 

Oh yes, please tell me all about the implication of something that I wrote. I'm utterly fascinated by your opinion.

 

Actually, don't bother. I need to learn not to engage trolls.


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You will play a human

 

Boo!

 

I was hoping this would be the game where we got finally got to try an alien race for a change, like an Asari or Quarian, or even Turian. (I'd gladly play a "cat-bird" scaly Turian just to try something different from human.)

 

I could understand them not doing it for the Mass Effect Trilogy since that was Shepard's story. (They couldn't very well turn around and say Shepard was an Asari or a Turian in game 2 or 3.)

 

Since this game is separate from the Mass Effect Trilogy story, with a different protagonist (most like), I was hoping they might introduce race selection (like they do for some DA games). But nope, just more humans.  -_-



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LOL, Mass Effect was hardly not a hard sci-fi since its technology is derive from space magic.

 

At least in the first game, it only really requires you to accept one thing, Eezo. Which behaved in a very specific way. You run a current through it, it generates a field that changes mass. You reverse the charge, it reverses the effect on mass. Everything else follows from accepting that one thing or making otherwise plausible extrapolations on current technology. Its not hard sci fi but by video game standards it was practically diamond hard. And all this before the Higgs Boson was officially confirmed by the LHC. 

 

I don't think it's really healthy to talk so much about something you're sure isn't for you.

 

Why not? I think it would be kind of weird and unhealthy if I never talked about things I don't like or tried to push for changes and improvements. And if you know anyone like that, get them help. 

 

"He doesn't talk about Popeye."

"Why not?"

"Because he doesn't like spinach and its unhealthy to talk about things you don't like. Thankfully I like spinach and I like talking about people's aversions so I can explain these things."

"Seems normal and healthy to me. Wait! I don't like talking about normal healthy things. NOOOOOO <explodes, and nobody talks about it because nobody likes exploding people>"

 

No offense but why is it always sci-fi fans that are the most hostile, when it should be the opposite?

 

Because the shooter action fans are getting what they want far more often. Sci Fi is always a tougher sell because it requires thinking to write well and at least a little thought to consume. Easier to just write action schlock, superheros, or space fantasy.



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Why not? I think it would be kind of weird and unhealthy if I never talked about things I don't like or tried to push for changes and improvements. And if you know anyone like that, get them help. 

 

 

Talking so much about something =/= never talking about something.
 



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Talking so much about something =/= never talking about something.
 

 

This is a lot? 

 

I could go on for hours about games I'm more interested in. 

 

Actually its more interesting. If I like something, I can talk some about why I like it but I can't get too far without at least some comparison to things I don't like or, as is the case with Bioware, things I simply like less. Bioware was good and its not so good anymore. And I like talking about games. So I'm going to poke into why.



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At least in the first game, it only really requires you to accept one thing, Eezo. Which behaved in a very specific way. You run a current through it, it generates a field that changes mass. You reverse the charge, it reverses the effect on mass. Everything else follows from accepting that one thing or making otherwise plausible extrapolations on current technology. Itks not hard sci fi but by video game standards it was practically diamond hard. And all this before the Higgs Boson was officially confirmed by LHC.


Meh, eezo is ME's version of the force and the only difference is that they make a technobabble explanation to it. Seriously, ME1 has other nonsense like indoctrination and joke alien anatomy like the asari reproduction and quarian immunology.

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Meh, eezo is ME's version of the force and the only difference is that they make a technobabble explanation to it. Seriously, ME1 has other nonsense like indoctrination and joke alien anatomy like the asari reproduction and quarian immunology.

How are indoctrination and parthenogenesis nonsense when we have it on Earth? 



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How are indoctrination and parthenogenesis nonsense when we have it on Earth?

So mind control exist in real life?

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Meh, eezo is ME's version of the force and the only difference is that they make a technobabble explanation to it. Seriously, ME1 has other nonsense like indoctrination and joke alien anatomy like the asari reproduction and quarian immunology.

 

Eezo may as well be midichlorians.

 

Then there's the telepathy and the beacons.

 

Liara: "I am amazed you were able to make sense of it at all. A lesser mind would have been utterly destroyed in the process. You must be remarkably strong-willed commander."

 

Like, what?


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So mind control exist in real life?

Yes. There are animals and plants that can take control of another lifeform's mind. 


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Yes. There are animals and plants that can take control of another lifeform's mind. 

Meh.



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Meh.

Not really

 

https://en.wikipedia.../wiki/Cordyceps

 

https://en.wikipedia...idium_paradoxum

 

https://en.wikipedia...Mexico_whiptail


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Oh yes, please tell me all about the implication of something that I wrote. I'm utterly fascinated by your opinion.

 

Actually, don't bother. I need to learn not to engage trolls.

 

Implication is in the words, not necessarily the intent. It could be that you didn't mean it and are simply a poor communicator. That seems likely based on your posts.


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At least in the first game, it only really requires you to accept one thing, Eezo. Which behaved in a very specific way. You run a current through it, it generates a field that changes mass. You reverse the charge, it reverses the effect on mass. Everything else follows from accepting that one thing or making otherwise plausible extrapolations on current technology. Its not hard sci fi but by video game standards it was practically diamond hard. And all this before the Higgs Boson was officially confirmed by the LHC.


Having seen one particle (EDIT:"trace") once that wasn't exactly what they expected the Higgs Boson to be like, and then claim you found the Higgs Boson, seems a Little bit too much imo.
I must say I'm still skeptical, I call it healthy skepticism.

There are several conversations where Javik tells you all about it, among them when you take him to Thessia.

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Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me. 

The ending for ME3 was bad and unless you wrap up the 

ending why should I commit to a new game.

 

I feel compelled to point out that Mass Effect is not your girlfriend.


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So uh....I'm excited Biotic Charge is back.

 

                                                                        <<<<<<<<<<()>>>>>>>>>>

 

Have not played Vanguard, though I was a frequent target of a Krogan charge.



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Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me. 

The ending for ME3 was bad and unless you wrap up the 

ending why should I commit to a new game.

 

                                                                        <<<<<<<<<<<()>>>>>>>>>>

 

As much as I was disappointed with DAI amd the ending of ME3, overall, I liked the ME series.

 

So, while I am looking forward to Andromeda any marketing material will be scanned through a cynical filter.


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Yes. There are animals and plants that can take control of another lifeform's mind.

Well, the brain, anyway. There's a difference, unless you want to roll with "mind" being an illusion and only the brain being real.
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Well, the brain, anyway. There's a difference, unless you want to roll with "mind" being an illusion and only the brain being real.

Actually, I was referring to mind as in mind. Yeah there are lifeforms that take control of the brain directly, but there are others that control their minds.

For example some species of Acacia trees are able to mind control colonies of ants to do its bidding. 


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Actually, I was referring to mind as in mind. Yeah there are lifeforms that take control of the brain directly, but there are others that control their minds.
For example some species of Acacia trees are able to mind control colonies of ants to do its bidding.

Indeed there are also lots of parasites that are capable of mind control as well since it helps them complete their lifecycle.

http://www.bbc.com/e...t-control-minds

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Meh, eezo is ME's version of the force and the only difference is that they make a technobabble explanation to it. Seriously, ME1 has other nonsense like indoctrination and joke alien anatomy like the asari reproduction and quarian immunology.


The force got technobable: midichlorians. They dropped it. But element zero - otherwise known as magic space neutron - got about the same amount of explanation and made the same amount of sense. Just because the technobable used more words that IRL science used doesn't mean it's better than the force.
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Actually, I was referring to mind as in mind. Yeah there are lifeforms that take control of the brain directly, but there are others that control their minds.
For example some species of Acacia trees are able to mind control colonies of ants to do its bidding.


It's not mind control. Ants don't have minds as we'd understand it. A better example are the minds of brain parasites that change mammal behaviour to get then eaten. Even then, the change in behaviour is subtle and "control" isn't the right word because it carries with it implications of agency on the part of the thing altering behaviour.
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