Absolutely but if somebody tries to trick me, I still don't appreciate it even if I don't fall for it.
Nobody does. When marketing generates interest in the product, their job is done. It's when the false hopes maifest that things go wrong. And then we get preorder stuff, chopped up content and barebone core games so we're still hungry.
Yes the story about Shepard should be over.Don't you think Shepard deserves his/her rest?
How hard is it to accept the fact you need to judge the finished product and not what marketing tells you that might be in?
And how will we know what is in the game so we can buy it if we can not trust what they say is in the game?
They will not even give us a demo any more so the only way is not to pre-order and wait to see what people tell us is in the game after they play it.
And how will we know what is in the game so we can buy it if we can not trust what they say is in the game?
They will not even give us a demo any more so the only way is not to pre-order and wait to see what people tell us is in the game after they play it.
You do know that you just answered your own question, right?
Software development, and especially games, can't work that way. It's simply not practical because it happens hundreds of times over the course of a project.
If you were to give me an ultimatum like that, I'd just stop telling you about early design goals and wait until I was nearly done.
...oh wait.
That "Interactive Storytelling" trailer was released about a month before ME3 came out.
Still HIGHLY deceptive.
Really looking forward to this game. I totally love the series =) Am sad though cos after 3 Mass Effect games and all the replays (thats how many hours??) of running around with Garrus I have become so attached to the character i named 1 of my dogs after him, another is called Grunt and a 3rd is called Javik.
Anyways.. ME is awesome! do your thing Bioware do your thing and all will be great =)
And how will we know what is in the game so we can buy it if we can not trust what they say is in the game?
They will not even give us a demo any more so the only way is not to pre-order and wait to see what people tell us is in the game after they play it.
It is Mass Effect we are talking about. No demo is required. Am going blindly pro-order without knowing every detailed about the game. Not watching trailers or reading too much on forums etc. I want the game to take me by surprise.
It is Mass Effect we are talking about. No demo is required. Am going blindly pro-order without knowing every detailed about the game. Not watching trailers or reading too much on forums etc. I want the game to take me by surprise.
And you're part of why we can't have nice things. As long as people will blindly throw them their money, they have less incentive to do a complete job. You'll buy it and wait for them to patch things that should have been done before release.
@Naturegay85: Who hasn't had nice things?
And this is exactly the main reason why I don't give BioWare the benefit of the doubt. They screwed up the ending in ME3, DA:I was a disaster, the games they make are tedious and boring, regurgitating story patterns on every different game, and making DLCs milking money. It's no wonder that people criticized them harshly because they've been bullshitting around and not keeping up with the competition, they better get on the good foot otherwise they will begin to plummet to the ground.And you're part of why we can't have nice things. As long as people will blindly throw them their money, they have less incentive to do a complete job. You'll buy it and wait for them to patch things that should have been done before release.
And you're part of why we can't have nice things. As long as people will blindly throw them their money, they have less incentive to do a complete job. You'll buy it and wait for them to patch things that should have been done before release.
I'll blindly pre-order. I don't care if it costs me $80 or $200. As soon as it's on sale, I'm buying it.
If I were you I'll wait for the release and watch YouTube to check out the game to see that the game is your money's worth or not. I wouldn't put my trust on BioWare too soon but it's just me.I'll blindly pre-order. I don't care if it costs me $80 or $200. As soon as it's on sale, I'm buying it.
@Naturegay85: Who hasn't had nice things?
Well, ME2 (at least the plot), DA2, and ME3 weren't great. And that's just Bioware. Other companies have issues as well. Look at launches like Assassin's Creed Unity, where the game is completely broken at launch.
And this is exactly the main reason why I don't give BioWare the benefit of the doubt. They screwed up the ending in ME3, DA:I was a disaster, the games they make are tedious and boring, regurgitating story patterns on every different game, and making DLCs milking money. It's no wonder that people criticized them harshly because they've been bullshitting around and not keeping up with the competition, they better get on the good foot otherwise they will begin to plummet to the ground.
Well that's a separate issue as what I said doesn't apply only to Bioware. As to what you said, I don't find the games tedious and boring and don't mind the similarities in the stories. For me, it's more about the quality of the writing. I really liked KotOR, Dragon Age Origins, and Mass Effect. I liked Mass Effect 2 despite it's crappy plot. Dragon Age 2 had a crappy plot but didn't have the great characters to carry it that ME2 had. ME3 had similar issues to 2 but the ending really took a dump on the series. I have not played DAI yet but have heard mixed reviews including sentiments similar to yours.
For DLC, we need more of LotSB, Legacy, and Mark of the Assassin and less chopping out things that should be in the main game like Javik. And no "Congrats on winning! Now buy DLC!" messages at the end, please.
I'm just saying. Storytelling will only go so far with crappy made game and it will lose value, because they flooded the market with it and expecting high sales in the future. I believe that a game should have a balance of gameplay, graphics, level design and storytelling not putting more on storytelling and screw the rest. For once I wish BioWare get a wake-up call to get rid of their ego and starting making high quality games.
Well that's a separate issue as what I said doesn't apply only to Bioware. As to what you said, I don't find the games tedious and boring and don't mind the similarities in the stories. For me, it's more about the quality of the writing. I really liked KotOR, Dragon Age Origins, and Mass Effect. I liked Mass Effect 2 despite it's crappy plot. Dragon Age 2 had a crappy plot but didn't have the great characters to carry it that ME2 had. ME3 had similar issues to 2 but the ending really took a dump on the series. I have not played DAI yet but have heard mixed reviews including sentiments similar to yours.
For DLC, we need more of LotSB, Legacy, and Mark of the Assassin and less chopping out things that should be in the main game like Javik. And no "Congrats on winning! Now buy DLC!" messages at the end, please.
I'm just saying. Storytelling will only go so far with crappy made game and it will lose value, because they flooded the market with it and expecting high sales in the future. I believe that a game should have a balance of gameplay, graphics, level design and storytelling not putting more on storytelling and screw the rest. For once I wish BioWare get a wake-up call to get rid of their ego and starting making high quality games.
True, but the story telling has gone down hill as well.
I agree. The Trespasser DLC story is so poorly made. I mean come on Solas is another Corypheus by him tearing down the Veil of the Fade? Really BioWare?? That's the best y'all can come up with?? That is pure laziness and no originality on their part. Just hope that they don't do the same with Andromeda.True, but the story telling has gone down hill as well.
I agree. The Trespasser DLC story is so poorly made. I mean come on Solas is another Corypheus by him tearing down the Veil of the Fade? Really BioWare?? That's the best y'all can come up with?? That is pure laziness and no originality on their part. Just hope that they don't do the same with Andromeda.
I'm starting to think that none of you have any clue what you're talking about.
Hey it's the truth whether you want to believe it or not.I'm starting to think that none of you have any clue what you're talking about.
I'm starting to think that none of you have any clue what you're talking about.
I don't know what N7Phantom is talking about but only because I didn't play Inquisition yet.
Hey it's the truth whether you want to believe it or not.
It's the truth in the same way that EDI and Legion are the same characters. But gross exaggeration aside, Solas and Corypheus are very different.
We're getting a little side-tracked here, by the way 
how about we just wait and see what happens with ME:A's marketing and how it may or may not be faithful to the final game.
Come on! Corypheus attempt to destroy the veil and Solas' doing the same thing! It's the same type of story pattern that makes me suspicious of their skills writing, and why they're over grandiose the DLC, that makes me not trust BioWare even more. And it's hard for me to remain faithful to them because of their shenanigans.It's the truth in the same way that Saren and The Illusive Man are the same for working with the Reapers. But gross exaggeration aside, Solas and Corypheus are very different characters.
We're getting a little side-tracked here, by the way
Come on! Corypheus attempt to destroy the veil and Solas' doing the same thing! It's the same type of story pattern that makes me suspicious of their skills writing, and why they're over grandiose the DLC, that makes me not trust BioWare even more. And it's hard for me to remain faithful to them because of their shenanigans.
I don't recall Corypheus wanting to tear down the Veil as much as just gain access to the Fade. But even if I'm misremembering, they have wildly different motives for attempting it.
The reception to Trespasser has, from what I've seen, been overwhelmingly positive, especially in regards to Solas. They could easily have disappointed after the plot twist at the end of the main game and the many months people had to anticipate the next meeting with him, but just about everyone seems content. Calling Bioware lazy in their writing of Solas seems very odd. If anything, his relationship to Corypheus is some of the most original companion writing we've seen in a while.
But as I said, this is irrelevant to ME:A. If you don't trust them, that's fine. Once the marketing train departs, it'll be healthy to toggle your skepticism on, anyway. But there's really nothing we can say one way or the other at this point in time.
We'll wait for their game to see that is our money's worth or not then we'll see.I don't recall Corypheus wanting to tear down the Veil as much as just gain access to the Fade. But even if I'm misremembering, they have wildly different motives for attempting it.
The reception to Trespasser has, from what I've seen, been overwhelmingly positive, especially in regards to Solas. They could easily have disappointed after the plot twist at the end of the main game and the many months people had to anticipate the next meeting with him, but just about everyone seems content. Calling Bioware lazy in their writing of Solas seems very odd. If anything, his relationship to Corypheus is some of the most original companion writing we've seen in a while.
But as I said, this is irrelevant to ME:A. If you don't trust them, that's fine. Once the marketing train departs, it'll be healthy to toggle your skepticism on, after all. But there's really nothing we can say one way or the other at this point in time.
Random post to somebody up a bunch of them:
What is it with you people? Fictional characters and player avatars deserve a rest?
Does Batman deserve a freaking rest too!? Poor old Batman... He should take a vacation, right?
Random post to somebody up a bunch of them:
What is it with you people? Fictional characters and player avatars deserve a rest?
Does Batman deserve a freaking rest too!? Poor old Batman... He should take a vacation, right?
Shepard isn't near as iconic as Batman but The Dark Knight Rises ended with Batman's death and Bruce Wayne retiring. Picking Batman was actually perfect because, like Shepard, he's a normal man and doesn't have super powers. He can't keep doing this crap forever. Also there's the issue of Shepard possibly being dead. He had a story and that story is over. It's time for somebody else.
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