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[Caineghis2500]

People can say whatever they want and feel however they want. I'm just saying to consider waiting until more info and actual gameplay is revealed before deciding go ape $hit on this game lol...

[StoxRegalia]

Whateva. I do what I want

[Seyd71]

Well, they confirmed it was in the Andromeda Galaxy in a shitty trailer

That one site with the poll about the game supported that.

That same poll revealed that it's basically "Mass Effect: Inquisition"

They're trying to make everyone forget about that failure of a game, ME3, by making the game take place far away.

 

 

[saladinbob]

People aren't bashing for the sake of it. Setting it in Andromeda has pissed an awful lot of people off and they're entitled to voice that opinion. 

[Mathias]

I'm not criticizing for the heck of it. I have a legit concern with what I'm learning about the game. And if the leak is true, which it damn well could be now that we know it does take place in Andromeda, then this sounds like Mass Effect: Inquisition. I want exploration in a Mass Effect, but I don't want them to overdo it like they did with DA:I.

[AzWarp]

Bashing is easy and lazy. Having an educated opinion is harder because it requires people to think for more than a few seconds.

 

Here's a good read for anyone interested: http://kotaku.com/fi...unti-1687510871.

[Laughing_Man]

Bashing is easy and lazy. Having an educated opinion is harder because it requires people to think for more than a few seconds.

 

Here's a good read for anyone interested: http://kotaku.com/fi...unti-1687510871.

 

It's all well and good and I do have sympathy when it comes to the difficulties of making video games.

Hell, I helped a kickstarter or two, and I may do so again in the future if I see an idea that I like, and want to help it become a reality.

 

That said, as a consumer, it's not "healthy" to buy out of sympathy, I only care about the product that actually reaches my hands.

[SolNebula]

Asking the internet not to do something usually result in folks doing exactly that thing usually just for the lulz of doing so. Don't fight the Internet it's pointless.

[Synthetic Turian]

People are seriously bashing Andromeda? Seriously? Wow.

[Il Divo]

The fact that this takes place in motherf***ing Andromeda of all places means it is doomed to suck. It's like a Star Wars installment taking place in a completely different galaxy millions of light years away with none of the recognizable characters or locations from earlier installments.

 

But the expanded universe of Star Wars has done this quite a bit. In many cases, the only things that stay the same are the races/technology, both of which are likely being kept in the context of Andromeda. 

[timebean]

Bashing is easy and lazy. Having an educated opinion is harder because it requires people to think for more than a few seconds.

 

Here's a good read for anyone interested: http://kotaku.com/fi...unti-1687510871.

A great read!  Thanks for posting!

[Quarian Master Race]

no

[Bizantura]

If Bioware calles it themselves ME:A then it should build upon the previous games.

If not call the game "voyage to Andromeda" or whatever.

 

I expect the game at least to carry over the ME feel and this trailer does the opposite.

Feels like a disjointed reboot and nothing more.

 

That doesn't mean the story and gameplay can't be great, it just isn't ME.  For me it's a new IP riding on the popularity of a previous game and besides the Krogan race carried over has little to do with ME universe I knew and loved.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

But the expanded universe of Star Wars has done this quite a bit. In many cases, the only things that stay the same are the races/technology, both of which are likely being kept in the context of Andromeda. 

The EU of Star Wars never took place in a different galaxy than the one far, far away.

[Iakus]

But the expanded universe of Star Wars has done this quite a bit. In many cases, the only things that stay the same are the races/technology, both of which are likely being kept in the context of Andromeda. 

If the people of the Milky Way can reach Andromeda, then by definition, we are not dealing with the same technology.

 

The only question then becomes how much of a contrivance is used in the move.

 

And until that question is answered, I feel totally justified in being pessimistic given past Mass Effect performance

[Zekka]

I'm more surprised by the Bethesda praise on the forums to be honest

 

And the next E3....with that and Star Citizen, 2016 is gonna be an....interesting year

Star Citizen is never coming out

[Kalas Magnus]

this is bsn. so, no?

[Iakus]

I'm more surprised by the Bethesda praise on the forums to be honest

 

Star Citizen is never coming out

I'm waiting for The Mandate

[Zekka]

I'm waiting for The Mandate

Never heard of it till you mentioned it. I'm intrigued.

[SporkFu]

Maybe it's a bit early to be bashing the game for its setting. I'm kinda looking forward to never setting foot on Eden Prime again, to be honest just kidding. Interesting that many hold the belief that Shepard's story is over, that they don't want Reapers anymore, that they don't want to be reminded of the RGB ending at all, but they still want to play in the same setting where there will be reminders of all that stuff everywhere.

So, what are the choices? Prequel? Parallel timeline? Clean slate continuation where everything that we don't bring with us will be new? New. Yes please.

[Arcian]

Maybe it's a bit early to be bashing the game for its setting. I'm kinda looking forward to never setting foot on Eden Prime again, to be honest just kidding. Interesting that many hold the belief that Shepard's story is over, that they don't want Reapers anymore, that they don't want to be reminded of the RGB ending at all, but they still want to play in the same setting where there will be reminders of all that stuff everywhere.

I've argued for years that BioWare can do what they did in both ME2 and ME3, which is to completely ignore the ending of the game that came before it. It's hypocritical for people to suggest it would be a bad idea for BioWare to ignore the endings of ME3 when our choice to save or let the Council die didn't matter, when our choice for the first human Councilor didn't matter and when our choice to save or destroy the Collector Base didn't matter.
 
Where were these people when ME1 and ME2's endings were ignored? BioWare didn't cite artistic integrity back then. Never did they even as much as breathe a word about respecting player choice. ME1's ending was f***king phenomenal, I would really have liked it to matter. ME2's ending was also fantastic, but it didn't matter. What boggles my mind the most is why the worst of the three endings in the entire series is treated with the most respect. 
 
So, honestly, answer me why ME3's ending should matter when ME1 and ME2's didn't.

But the expanded universe of Star Wars has done this quite a bit. In many cases, the only things that stay the same are the races/technology, both of which are likely being kept in the context of Andromeda.

SWEU has never left The Galaxy. They've introduced threats from outside The Galaxy, but they've never actually left The Galaxy.

[Lady Artifice]

But really, asking the internet not to rage is like asking the ocean to stop making so many waves.

This. Not that I think all the over hasty criticism is remotely reasonable. I don't.

[Seboist]

People said bad things about ME2 here. Therefore nothing is safe. 

 

With good reason.

[SporkFu]

I've argued for years that BioWare can do what they did in both ME2 and ME3, which is to completely ignore the ending of the game that came before it. It's hypocritical for people to suggest it would be a bad idea for BioWare to ignore the endings of ME3 when our choice to save or let the Council die didn't matter, when our choice for the first human Councilor didn't matter and when our choice to save or destroy the Collector Base didn't matter.
 
Where were these people when ME1 and ME2's endings were ignored? BioWare didn't cite artistic integrity back then. Never did they even as much as breathe a word about respecting player choice. ME1's ending was f***king phenomenal, I would really have liked it to matter. ME2's ending was also fantastic, but it didn't matter. What boggles my mind the most is why the worst of the three endings in the entire series is treated with the most respect. 
 
So, honestly, answer me why ME3's ending should matter when ME1 and ME2's didn't.

There's no comparison between the impact of those ME1/ME2 decisions on the following games and the impact that the RGB ending should have on the next ME game -- if it were a direct sequel. No comparison.

Saving the Destiny Ascension or focusing on Sovereign was not the epic part of the ME1 ending. The choice is there so you can feel a little more like a renegade/paragon. Bio could have eliminated the choice and had the arriving Alliance reinforcements save the Ascension in a cutscene and taken the choice out of our hands. What did we care? We're crawling along the outside of the Citadel tower with our magboots on. As for the choice of councilor, who cares? We saw the Presidium for five minutes in ME2. It didn't matter because the focus of ME2 wasn't about the Council or even Citadel Space.

Likewise, saving/destroying the Collector Base was not the epic part of the suicide mission. Okay, the entire mission was epic -- and one of my favorite parts of the whole trilogy -- but the base? The scene where the decision played out was great, no question. Anytime I could get TIM close to bursting a blood vessel was fine by me. I especially enjoyed having Miranda on the team for that scene ... but ultimately we did what we set out to do on that mission and stopped the Collectors.

But the RGB ending? If the next game were a direct sequel, a color would first have to be picked and... just wow. Whether it's red, blue, or green, the reaction to that would be crazy. Apart from that, the choice would affect everything in the galaxy. Everything.

[Iakus]

 
But the RGB ending? If the next game were a direct sequel, a color would first have to be picked and... just wow. Whether it's red, blue, or green, the reaction to that would be crazy. Apart from that, the choice would affect everything in the galaxy. Everything.

"Ah, yes, 'Crucible'..."