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[SporkFu]

"Ah, yes, 'Crucible'..."

Heh. Well-played, but is that what you would have do for the next game instead?

[Linkenski]

Bioware went from being one of my favorite companies to my biggest letdown in gaming EVER in a very short time. No it did not start at ME2 IMO and I could sort of accept DA2 overall being bad but ME3 was on such a level of disappointment and "why do you see your own franchise so differently from how I thought you understood it!?" that it became downright depressing to see how that game unfolded and collapsed under its own weight scene for scene until the ending and its following controversy just painted my entire perception of gaming black.

 

It's unfortunate and to some extent accidental, but I just find it really hard to be seriously feel optimistic about the stuff these guys put out on the market now, but I'll not forget they made some of the IMO most impactful titles of last gen (and in gaming history) and that's why I haven't jumped ship yet.

[Iakus]

Heh. Well-played, but is that what you would have do for the next game instead?

I'd rather the next game just forget the last three games ever happened.

 

Edit:  Or my personal favorite, make "Commander Shepard" a fictitious character in that world, and the entire trilogy was essentially a bunch of Blasto-like movies.

[themikefest]

I'd rather the next game just forget the last three games ever happened.

 

Edit:  Or my personal favorite, make "Commander Shepard" a fictitious character in that world, and the entire trilogy was essentially a bunch of Blasto-like movies.

My personal favorite. Redo the trilogy

[Kierro Ren]

I'd rather the next game just forget the last three games ever happened.

 

Edit:  Or my personal favorite, make "Commander Shepard" a fictitious character in that world, and the entire trilogy was essentially a bunch of Blasto-like movies.

 

Ahh, like one of Varrics BS stories only Mass Effect. If done right.

[KotorEffect3]

People are allowed to express their dislike. 

Not when their dislike is not based on anything substantial and they have made assumptions before actually seeing anything.

[Iakus]

Ahh, like one of Varrics BS stories only Mass Effect. If done right.

Exactly so

[Vapaa]

Well we don't know if the game will suck, but the teaser certainly did.

[Linkenski]

Well we don't know if the game will suck, but the teaser certainly did.

...and the E3 trailer. I still don't know what that was besides "Wow, look at how great the graphics are before the downgrade"

[Heimdall]

I'd rather the next game just forget the last three games ever happened.

Edit: Or my personal favorite, make "Commander Shepard" a fictitious character in that world, and the entire trilogy was essentially a bunch of Blasto-like movies.

Strangely, I like this idea

[Seboist]

I'd rather the next game just forget the last three games ever happened.

 

Edit:  Or my personal favorite, make "Commander Shepard" a fictitious character in that world, and the entire trilogy was essentially a bunch of Blasto-like movies.

 

Directed by a descendant of Ed Wood.

[Getorex]

My personal favorite. Redo the trilogy

Too soon. Also, while movies get remakes all the time I can't think of any game that has been, though Doom comes close (the same story redone with the latest, greatest game and graphics engine). But Doom doesn't really have a story to it, just a bare reason for shoot up that uses monsters instead of enemy soldiers or terrorists as a shoot em up excuse.

It MIGHT call for redo after a handful of years...kind of like Deus Ex has been. Though it's redo is, so far, in the form of prequels to end, I hope, in actual remakes of the originals...but this happened nearly a decade after first release.

I would like to see the ME trilogy revamped together on the same advanced game engine with the same controls shared throughout the series but, as I said, it's too early for that to make any business sense. It would be nice, if that were to ever happen, for pays off it to be worked out better and more logically and self-consistent.

[Il Divo]

^It seems too like movies get ripped apart all the time for there being too many remakes/sequels.

[Arcian]

There's no comparison between the impact of those ME1/ME2 decisions on the following games and the impact that the RGB ending should have on the next ME game -- if it were a direct sequel. No comparison.

Saving the Destiny Ascension or focusing on Sovereign was not the epic part of the ME1 ending. The choice is there so you can feel a little more like a renegade/paragon. Bio could have eliminated the choice and had the arriving Alliance reinforcements save the Ascension in a cutscene and taken the choice out of our hands. What did we care? We're crawling along the outside of the Citadel tower with our magboots on. As for the choice of councilor, who cares? We saw the Presidium for five minutes in ME2. It didn't matter because the focus of ME2 wasn't about the Council or even Citadel Space.

Likewise, saving/destroying the Collector Base was not the epic part of the suicide mission. Okay, the entire mission was epic -- and one of my favorite parts of the whole trilogy -- but the base? The scene where the decision played out was great, no question. Anytime I could get TIM close to bursting a blood vessel was fine by me. I especially enjoyed having Miranda on the team for that scene ... but ultimately we did what we set out to do on that mission and stopped the Collectors.

But the RGB ending? If the next game were a direct sequel, a color would first have to be picked and... just wow. Whether it's red, blue, or green, the reaction to that would be crazy. Apart from that, the choice would affect everything in the galaxy. Everything.

The Crucible choice wasn't the epic part of retaking Earth. If you're going to arbitrarily ignore the Destiny Ascension and Councilor choices in ME1 and the Collector Base choice in ME2, you literally have no argument against ignoring the RGB choice in ME3.

[Iakus]

Directed by a descendant of Ed Wood.

 

Codex Entry: Commander Shepard "The First Human Spectre" is a fictional character and the subject of several interactive films published by Tethras Enterprises. These films were wildly popular due at least in part to the player being able to customize Shepard, from gender to appearance. Shepard could even have romances with several of the colorful cast of characters. The viewer was able to experience the adventures using Shepard as an avatar, making choices for Shepard and customizing the story to suit individual tastes

Over its five year run, numerous adventures where made available for Shepard's fans to experience. Though the central plot involved foiling the "Reapers" a mythological race of sentient AIs the films credited for the extinction of the Protheans.

Shepard's run ended with the so-called "Shepard Incident". The conclusion of the final film was considered so controversial that it caused an unprecedented uproar which even a rereleased ending could not quell.

Currently Tethras Enterprises has no plans to bring back Shepard for other stories. However, they are looking into the licensing Blasto for a new series.

[Angry_Elcor]

no

 

Your post says no, but your eyes say yes. At least, I think they're your eyes. They might just be reflections off of the coloured glass.

 

I'll try again: You post says no, but those reflections off of the coloured glass of your helmut say yes.

[saladinbob]

But the RGB ending? If the next game were a direct sequel, a color would first have to be picked and... just wow. Whether it's red, blue, or green, the reaction to that would be crazy. Apart from that, the choice would affect everything in the galaxy. Everything.

 

 

I think that's the source of the criticism with most people. The basing in Andromeda is a refusal by Bioware to deal with the difficult decisions created by their disastrous ME3 ending. Rather than dealing with it head on and fixing the problems, they're effectively side stepping the issue by basing it in another Galaxy, even if this breaks all established science in the trilogy's lore. By doing so, rather than putting the issue to bed, all they've actually done is re-open old wounds. Andromeda may go on to be a great game but unfortunately this creative decision will continue to raise the spectre of the RGB ending.

[SporkFu]

I think that's the source of the criticism with most people. The basing in Andromeda is a refusal by Bioware to deal with the difficult decisions created by their disastrous ME3 ending. Rather than dealing with it head on and fixing the problems, they're effectively side stepping the issue by basing it in another Galaxy, even if this breaks all established science in the trilogy's lore. By doing so, rather than putting the issue to bed, all they've actually done is re-open old wounds. Andromeda may go on to be a great game but unfortunately this creative decision will continue to raise the spectre of the RGB ending.

Because there is a tendency here on the BSN to, at times, refuse to let things go (he said, as diplomatically as possible), the spectre of the RGB endings will always exist. Is going to Andromeda the right way to deal with it? *shrug* I dunno, but I'll give it a chance. I mean, if commander Shepard can sign off on it, so can I.

[AzWarp]

Bioware went from being one of my favorite companies to my biggest letdown in gaming EVER in a very short time. No it did not start at ME2 IMO and I could sort of accept DA2 overall being bad but ME3 was on such a level of disappointment and "why do you see your own franchise so differently from how I thought you understood it!?" that it became downright depressing to see how that game unfolded and collapsed under its own weight scene for scene until the ending and its following controversy just painted my entire perception of gaming black.

 

It's unfortunate and to some extent accidental, but I just find it really hard to be seriously feel optimistic about the stuff these guys put out on the market now, but I'll not forget they made some of the IMO most impactful titles of last gen (and in gaming history) and that's why I haven't jumped ship yet.

 

Why do you keep coming back? Why are you still active on this forum? I mean you say BW was a letdown for you but then why keep coming here on the forums? Don't get me wrong man, I respect your opinion and honestly thought you post was well written and not a bashing one at all... but if I felt the way you do I'd have kissed this forum goodbye a while ago. It's things like this I have a difficult time understanding because... like if people hate it so much then why keep coming back for more? For me, if I keep coming back to something, even something I admittedly hated, then I clearly didn't hate it as much as I thought I did.... because it's still reaching out to me.... 

 

Just curious...

[Puddi III]

K.

[Fredward]

I'm just sitting here waiting for something new to be released so that we can all be titillated by another slew of  witty    red/blue/green jokes.