Aller au contenu

Photo

BioWare's Use of Tropes in Mass Effect


213 réponses à ce sujet

#1
Mcfly616

Mcfly616
  • Members
  • 8 986 messages

Today's reveal confirmed Bioware's continued dependency on taking overused sci-fi tropes and implementing them as plot devices in order to handwave/disregard the previously established universe.

 

 

 

 I'd like to hear how the rest of the BSN feels about it. Please share and discuss.



#2
JeffZero

JeffZero
  • Members
  • 14 400 messages

I feel a wave of disagreement.


  • travmonster, CosmicGnosis, Antmarch456 et 3 autres aiment ceci

#3
In Exile

In Exile
  • Members
  • 28 738 messages
Usually one has to give some argument when making these assertions. What are you talking about?
  • JobacNoor, Hiemoth, laudable11 et 22 autres aiment ceci

#4
Torgette

Torgette
  • Members
  • 1 422 messages

post-33537-Jim-Carrey-Truman-Show-gif-wh

 

:P


  • Eelectrica, Wonderllama4, Gigerstreak et 7 autres aiment ceci

#5
Golden_Persona

Golden_Persona
  • Members
  • 301 messages

Umm... the trailer revealed nothing about the game. No plot details, no dialogue, no explanations, nothing. How can they have descented into hack writing when the trailer had no writing to begin with?

 

If people think getting to Andromeda is too much a stretch then they should have stopped playing Mass Effect since ME1. Asari mind-melding, Element Zero which is a deus ex machina explanation on how ME works to begin with. The Mass Relays themselves are improbable as all hell, but we can except them because... nostalgia? Because FTL is an accepted Sci-fi trope? If you believe that then you've been conditioned too much, while at the same time lacking in imagination.

 

If the game takes place hundreds of years into the future how is it impossible? Technological advances plus loads of Reaper tech... sounds plausible to me.


  • azarhal, Messi Kossmann, Jedi Master of Orion et 9 autres aiment ceci

#6
Beerfish

Beerfish
  • Members
  • 23 836 messages

List a few non over used sci fi trops?  Story content is much like guitar chords, there are only so many combos and they get used over and over again.

 

The move to a new galaxy is just fine and dandy to me.  The last game of the last series set out a few major massive constraints that a team would have to follow if they 'stuck to it'.   Including all major constraints is simply not feasible, so you either choose one and tick off most of your audeicne or go you totally new.

 

Sci fi is all about hand waving.  At what point does one think certain tech is fine and other tech is outlandish or not feasible?  Almost everything in sci fi is feasible, it is just that people institute opinions of likes and dislikes and try and work those into being feasible or not?

 

And I think that is exactly what you are doing in your post.



#7
Hellamarian

Hellamarian
  • Members
  • 114 messages

Nice bait.


  • Ashevajak aime ceci

#8
camphor

camphor
  • Members
  • 154 messages

post-33537-Jim-Carrey-Truman-Show-gif-wh

 

:P

this your opinion cant be taken seriously and the thread title should be i hate andromeda the thread as that is the only thing that has been noted at all



#9
Jeremiah12LGeek

Jeremiah12LGeek
  • Members
  • 23 737 messages

Today's reveal confirmed Bioware's continued dependency on taking overused sci-fi tropes and implementing them as plot devices in order to handwave/disregard the previously established universe.

 

Continued dependency?

 

They have other sci fi sequels that I don't know about?  :huh:



#10
TheJediSaint

TheJediSaint
  • Members
  • 6 637 messages

Tropes are not bad.  Originality is overrated.  ME:A will stand or fall on its own merits.


  • Gigerstreak, Zatche, Undead Han et 7 autres aiment ceci

#11
Malanek

Malanek
  • Members
  • 7 838 messages

Because it's in Andromeda? You don't know how or why they are there. Why don't you wait a little before making that statement.



#12
felipejiraya

felipejiraya
  • Members
  • 2 391 messages
1MNbLkz.png
  • JobacNoor, pdusen, efd731 et 2 autres aiment ceci

#13
Golden_Persona

Golden_Persona
  • Members
  • 301 messages

Sometimes the bait is worth taking. Having gotten back from AnimeNEXT I've been staaaarving for a meal.



#14
GreatBlueHeron

GreatBlueHeron
  • Members
  • 1 490 messages
So it begins.

#15
PrinceLionheart

PrinceLionheart
  • Members
  • 2 597 messages

o7x1oEZ.gif


  • Grieving Natashina, TBJack et neonmoth aiment ceci

#16
Mcfly616

Mcfly616
  • Members
  • 8 986 messages

Continued dependency?

 

They have other sci fi sequels that I don't know about?  :huh:

ME2 and ME3.  :huh:



#17
AtreiyaN7

AtreiyaN7
  • Members
  • 8 390 messages

I think opinions are rather like a certain aperture of the human body through which solid waste is expelled. We have zero dialogue to judge, zero actual story to judge, and some Johnny Cash to listen to while watching a short trailer (I'm good with the Johnny Cash there btw).

 

Why don't you come back with an illuminating critique of everything wrong with the game's writing when there's actually a game out to judge. *rolleyes*


  • Jaulen, Undead Han, CosmicGnosis et 2 autres aiment ceci

#18
AlanC9

AlanC9
  • Members
  • 35 572 messages
I'd disagree with the argument if I could actually find an argument here.
  • In Exile, Jaulen, shinyfirefly et 5 autres aiment ceci

#19
Zekka

Zekka
  • Members
  • 1 186 messages

I thought everyone new by now that the game would have to be set in a new universe after Mass Effect 3



#20
Zazzerka

Zazzerka
  • Members
  • 9 515 messages

It's a real shame they decided to subtitle the game after the galaxy that instigated the Vietnam War.



#21
Mcfly616

Mcfly616
  • Members
  • 8 986 messages

List a few non over used sci fi trops?  Story content is much like guitar chords, there are only so many combos and they get used over and over again.

 

The move to a new galaxy is just fine and dandy to me.  The last game of the last series set out a few major massive constraints that a team would have to follow if they 'stuck to it'.   Including all major constraints is simply not feasible, so you either choose one and tick off most of your audeicne or go you totally new.

 

Sci fi is all about hand waving.  At what point does one think certain tech is fine and other tech is outlandish or not feasible?  Almost everything in sci fi is feasible, it is just that people institute opinions of likes and dislikes and try and work those into being feasible or not?

 

And I think that is exactly what you are doing in your post.

 It is true that many sci fi stories hand wave things regarding RL in order to establish what is and isn't possible with the technology within the fictional setting.  

 

However, the genre is not about handwaving what has been previously established as the foundation of any specific fictional universe. It's poor practice and any writer worth his/her salt knows that's just plain and simple common sense.



#22
Valkyrja

Valkyrja
  • Members
  • 359 messages

Mass Effect was a series about a psychic super soldier and their blue space babe girlfriend ( <3 Liara) trying to stop mind-controlling space squids from destroying the galaxy.

 

It was always silly.



#23
CrutchCricket

CrutchCricket
  • Members
  • 7 726 messages

Apparently Walters is back. So what common sense are you expecting exactly?



#24
Kurt M.

Kurt M.
  • Banned
  • 3 051 messages

OP's post in one gif:

 

tumblr_inline_mglfpvxJ7J1rcodv3.gif



#25
CronoDragoon

CronoDragoon
  • Members
  • 10 399 messages

I'm glad we're getting the meltdowns out of the way early.

 

Though I shouldn't underestimate the BSN's capacity for multiple meltdowns.


  • Jaulen, AlanC9, Il Divo et 4 autres aiment ceci