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[Wayning_Star]

well to be fair there is not enough data for a quality decision on this very dark matter. I'm noticing a trend in the space/sci fi adventure vg's that future races, human or other wise are all ultra militaristic with but a dash of gentle, sensitive and  'humanistic' association (awwwwuh). But with this, it's just  Too early to tell imo.

[ZoliCs]

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[Wayning_Star]

out of the way.. lol, it's too early for that.. got till 2016 to boil down on it...heheh

[bondari reloads.]

My word, if the ark spaceships sent for Andromeda were as fast as people's judgments Shepard would barely have the time to re-integrate himself before their arrival. Or for his body to cool, for that matter.

[SNascimento]

[Mcfly616]

Usually one has to give some argument when making these assertions. What are you talking about?

 No, one doesn't have to make any argument to make assertions. Either way, they're more than assertions. From Lazarus to the Crucible and now to worm-holing to another galaxy. I'm simply stating I'm not in favor of their use of plot devices in order to run away from established events.

 

 

It's you and others who have hostility and make accusations instead of discussing your own take on the use of said tropes/plot devices. 

 

Don't know why anybody thinks this is bait. Anybody who's been on the Mass Effect boards for the past 3 years, knows that's not what I'm about. I simply stated my opinion. Clearly you don't want to state yours on the topic at hand. Maybe seek other threads.

[Golden_Persona]

 It is true that many sci fi stories hand wave things regarding RL in order to establish what is and isn't possible with the technology within the fictional setting.  

 

However, the genre is not about handwaving what has been previously established as the foundation of any specific fictional universe. It's poor practice and any writer worth his/her salt knows that's just plain and simple common sense.

Well, if you can tell me the details on how they get to Andromeda, real confirmed details, and how it conflicts with a universe with a deus ex machine as the basis for the entire universe to begin with then you may have a case. If we don't know how they get to Andromeda, we don't know if it conflicts with lore, everyone's favorite word it seems.

 

Seriously, what part of "far and away in the future" do people not get? What part of Reaper tech doing amazing things do people not get? Technology is always advancing, the impossible becoming possible. When the first computer was made could its inventors have predicted that our phones would be 100x more advanced than it was only a few decades in the future?

[Undead Han]

The only thing we know about the next game is the setting.

 

No details yet on plot or characters. On that note the hack writing complaints may be more than a little premature.

[von uber]

I don't know about hack writing. I am massively disappointed they seem to have abandoned the original setting though.

[midnight tea]

... Wow, new MEA was barely announced and the forum dedicated to it is already full of those complaining or baiting people o_O

[Mcfly616]

I'm glad we're getting the meltdowns out of the way early.

 

Though I shouldn't underestimate the BSN's capacity for multiple meltdowns.

Man, you're telling me lol

 

 

All I did was post my distaste for Bioware's conceptual approach to the continuation of the series. Guess all the post-ME3 hostility was lying dormant as it seems to be coming out in full effect here.

[Spacepunk01]

Well, if you can tell me the details on how they get to Andromeda, real confirmed details, and how it conflicts with a universe with a deus ex machine as the basis for the entire universe to begin with then you may have a case. If we don't know how they get to Andromeda, we don't know if it conflicts with lore, everyone's favorite word it seems.

 

Seriously, what part of "far and away in the future" do people not get? What part of Reaper tech doing amazing things do people not get? Technology is always advancing, the impossible becoming possible. When the first computer was made could its inventors have predicted that our phones would be 100x more advanced than it was only a few decades in the future?

 

I hope you're aware that the Reapers are waiting for us in the Andromeda galaxy, because if WE can travel there, you can be sure that the Reapers have already established their relay system there, millions of years ago. 

[General TSAR]

That was quick. 

[DaemionMoadrin]

Let's be fair... BioWare has never been good with details but they do excel at story telling.

 

If you want Mass Effect to be proper sci-fi instead of space magic, then you will need to rewrite all of it, starting with ME1. I once tried to rewrite the ME story line to close plot holes, to have a smart antagonist and an equally smart protagonist, to use mechanics that are scientifically sound etc etc... the problem is, there isn't much left of Mass Effect once you do that.

 

Just don't think about it and enjoy the ride. It's bright, shiny and (hopefully) funny from here on out.

[Drone223]

I don't know about hack writing. I am massively disappointed they seem to have abandoned the original setting though.

I'll be surprised if the explanation is decent but I don't have high hopes for it. But yeah I don't mind exploring another galaxy but I'd hate to see them resort to ditching the original setting completely, it's just going to be wasted potential.

[Mcfly616]

... Wow, new MEA was barely announced and the forum dedicated to it is already full of those complaining or baiting people o_O

 Yeah that's it, "baiting". 

 

 

Contribute or hush up. The only people baiting are the ones suggesting it's bait.

[DaemionMoadrin]

I'll be surprised if the explanation is decent but I don't have high hopes for it. But yeah I don't mind exploring another galaxy but I'd hate to see them resort to ditching the original setting completely, it's just going to be wasted potential.

 

No, they desperately needed a new start. There was no way they could build on top of the existing setting. They would have to make four different games, one for each ending. Or they declare one ending canon and then everyone else gets to complain about it.

Plus, they had written themselves into a corner (again), there was no way to continue from there.

[midnight tea]

 Yeah that's it, "baiting". 

 

 

Contribute or hush up. The only people baiting are the ones suggesting it's bait.

 

You wanted people's opinion about it and I'm giving it to you - you're accusing devs of "descent into hack writing" without knowing any details about the game. You're baiting people, whether unintentionally or not. That's all I have to say about it.

[Steppenwolf]

Welcome to volume 2 of McFly616's temper tantrum over the leak

[Sion1138]

Hon, you accusing devs of "descent into hack writing" without knowing any details about the game. You're baiting people, whether unintentionally or not. That's all I have to say about it.

 

To be fair, we know pretty much all we need to know.

[Drone223]

No, they desperately needed a new start. There was no way they could build on top of the existing setting. They would have to make four different games, one for each ending. Or they declare one ending canon and then everyone else gets to complain about it.

Plus, they had written themselves into a corner (again), there was no way to continue from there.

No one is asking Bioware to make four different games, its just that Bioware may as well just start a new IP instead if they're going to ditch the MW forever.

[DaemionMoadrin]

No one is asking Bioware to make four different games, its just that Bioware may as well just start a new IP instead if they're going to ditch the MW forever.

 

That makes no sense.

 

What do we need the Milky Way for? That's like saying any sci-fi not featuring the Sol system is a different genre.

 

We still have the technology, biotics, weapons, vehicles, ships, species... just on new planets, as explorers of some sort.

[Steppenwolf]

No one is asking Bioware to make four different games, its just that Bioware may as well just start a new IP instead if they're going to ditch the MW forever.

 

So the only thing you like about the Mass Effect series is the Milky Way setting? There's nothing more to the franchise?

[Drone223]

That makes no sense.

 

What do we need the Milky Way for? That's like saying any sci-fi not featuring the Sol system is a different genre.

 

We still have the technology, biotics, weapons, vehicles, ships, species... just on new planets, as explorers of some sort.

Locations such as Omega and the Citadel are iconic to the franchise, then you have the mass relay's themselves and the various organizations in the galaxy they'll be gone for good. It'll mean that the ME series is going to lose some of the aspect that helped defined the franchise.

[ZoliCs]

No one is asking Bioware to make four different games, its just that Bioware may as well just start a new IP instead if they're going to ditch the MW forever.

 

Yeah, let's write a new lore, make new races, new tech, new art only because you are butthurt....