No it can't. They would have to choose a canon ending/galaxy state and then largely ignore every malleable variable to accommodate new games set in the Milky Way. ME3 royally screwed the series with it's exceptionally bad writing. Deal with it and move on.
Or...let it be its own game and forget about the trilogy.
Or...let it be its own game and forget about the trilogy.
ME2 and ME3.
You think ME 2 and ME 3 were both stand alone stories that took place in a different universe from ME 1?
Okay, then.
But you have time to make this dumb thread and argue with everyone who disagrees with it?
My only intent was to discuss their repeated use of cliches in order to establish the premise of their narratives. You're the one with hostility and accusations etc. So, yes, I have time to discuss something I'm interested in. However, I have no inclination to spend my time doing something that someone such as yourself asks of me. I laugh at the notion. Funny, you''re still here commenting on this "dumb thread".
You think ME 2 and Me 3 were both stand alone stories that took place in a different universe from ME 1?
Okay, then.
They have other sci fi sequels that I don't know about?
Yes. ME2 and 3 are sci fi sequels. You were saying?
Okay then...
My only intent was to discuss their repeated use of cliches in order to establish the premise of their narratives. You're the one with hostility and accusations etc. So, yes, I have time to discuss something I'm interested in. However, I have no inclination to spend my time doing something that someone such as yourself asks of me. I laugh at the notion. Funny, you''re still here commenting on this "dumb thread".
You think ME 2 and Me 3 were both stand alone stories that took place in a different universe from ME 1?
Okay, then.
Please point out where I said anything about them being standalones.
You asked if they've made sci fi sequels. ME2 is a sequel. 3 is also a sequel.
You said there are loads of wholly original stories that don't use tropes and cliches. Why can't you name a single one? You can make the statement but you can't back it up?
Cherry picking my words, kid. Twisting the context and such. There are plenty of stories that don't base the entire plot on a ridiculous cliche (which Bioware continually relies on)
Cherry picking my words, kid. Twisting the context and such. There are plenty of stories that don't base the entire plot on a ridiculous cliche (which Bioware continually relies on)
Okay. Name one. Just the name. I'll google it myself. Just give me a name.
How can anyone be arguing about Andromeda's story, plot, anything?
We barely know anything about the game.
I don't believe that there's enough evidence in front of us to denote any kind of dependency on overused tropes in this game.
I tend to think that the whole Andromeda by way of Ark ship through wormhole is enough evidence. This thread wouldn't exist if I didn't feel that way. Which is why I wanted to discuss it. Not constantly defend myself from the words people put in my mouth.
You guys are trying to delegitimize a concept by using words like mystical mumbo-jumbo. You're not making an argument. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguable from magic. Just because we can't understand it, doesn't mean its mystical mumbo-jumbo. The cipher is basically a language pack that allowed an individual to interpret a message recorded by an alien civilization.
I tend to think that the whole Andromeda by way of Ark ship through wormhole is enough evidence. This thread wouldn't exist if I didn't feel that way. Which is why I wanted to discuss it. Not constantly defend myself from the words people put in my mouth.
Again, I apologize for making you feel like I was putting words in your mouth. My intent was to summarize, not twist your meaning.
You're right, of course, that an over reliance on cliches would be a very bad thing. My only point of discussion is that I don't think we've seen enough of the story to determine whether they're doing that. As far as the travel by wormhole as a trope, I don't quite see how one science fiction trope indicates an over reliance.
I'm trying not to assume too much. You could be right. I just don't think we have enough to go on at this point.
Cherry picking my words, kid. Twisting the context and such. There are plenty of stories that don't base the entire plot on a ridiculous cliche (which Bioware continually relies on)
Sorry, I can't get behind this mentality that you and some others believe. I.e. that every story is a cliche. There are plenty of completely original stories out there.
And yet you can't name a single one. The crux of your argument is that they need to tell completely original stories and yet you can't name a single example of a completely original story.
More like I won't. So you quote the post that you took out of context? Nice.
You're right, of course, that an over reliance on cliches would be a very bad thing. My only point of discussion is that I don't think we've seen enough of the story to determine whether they're doing that. As far as the travel by wormhole as a trope, I don't quite see how one science fiction trope indicates an over reliance.
I was including Bioware's past reliance on them as well in my allusions. Such as the Lazarus Project or the Crucible. And now what we have with MEA.
I hope I enjoy it. I really am looking forward to it. But I'm definitely disappointed in the premise. I view it as a weak cop out.
More like I won't. So you quote the post that you took out of context? Nice.
Ah, I see. It's not backpedaling from a dumb statement, it's righteous indignation. 
All I did was convey my disappointment that the entire premise of the game is decided by this trope. That they are using this cliche in order to leave behind the setting they've established.
Seems alot of people are taking my OP out of context. And then others take those out of context interpretations and put words in my mouth. Thanks for continuing the trend.
How? Explain how it would work without addressing the trilogy and not **** everyone off.
WIthout p*ssing anyone off? Unlikely. People are likely p*ssed they can't play a turian in the next game.
As for keeping it in the Milky Way, just canonize an ending that the original game doesn't account for.
OR better, just don't refer to how the Reapers were defeated. DOn't let the endings dictate the direction of the game. "Yes the Reapers attacked. Commander Shepard saved us, never mind how"
Yeah leaving things fuzzy like that is odd, but less odd than space magic teleporting us to Andromeda.
As for tropes, well:
http://tvtropes.org/...eNoSenseOfScale
Specifically:
http://tvtropes.org/...SenseOfDistance
Also
http://tvtropes.org/...ersCannotDoMath
THough I do sympathize with this one as I'm not exactly a math guy myself.
Ah, I see. It's not backpedaling from a dumb statement, it's righteous indignation.
Nah, I'm just not entertaining the request of someone who just demonstrated that they don't know the crux of the argument.
WIthout p*ssing anyone off? Unlikely. People are likely p*ssed they can't play a turian in the next game.
As for keeping it in the Milky Way, just canonize an ending that the original game doesn't account for.
OR better, just don't refer to how the Reapers were defeated. DOn't let the endings dictate the direction of the game. "Yes the Reapers attacked. Commander Shepard saved us, never mind how"
Yeah leaving things fuzzy like that is odd, but less odd than space magic teleporting us to Andromeda.
Nah, I'm just not entertaining the request of someone who just demonstrated that they don't know the crux of the argument.
Sure. You keep fighting the system, rah rah, etc.
I don't know what that means.
The canon endings are Destroy, COntrol, or Synthesis (and the "screw you, ending hater!" Refuse)
So the canon ending should be...non of the above. THe Crucible does something entirely different from any of these things. And the series continues from there. Everyone starts out at the same point.
So just laziness and vagueness?
Like suddenly having the technology to travel to another galaxy isn't?
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