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[BobtheMalodorousAlpaca]

And what do you dislike about your favorite characters?

 

So for instance, if you dislike Cassandra, name a quality that you actually like about her. Explain why you like that particular characteristic about her.

 

Since some qualities are totally subjective (some might view sarcasm negatively, some might worship it), everything here will be opinion based. Let's just admit that the characters we love might not be so great, and that the characters we hate might not be so bad. Hopefully this thread can be peaceful.

 

I apologize if a similar thread has been made already.

[YourFunnyUncle]

Are we restricting ourselves just to DAI, here? If so, I'll say that Vivienne is the only companion who I really dislike, but I still respect her intelligence and wit, and enjoy her aloof put-downs of others at the same time as loathing her for them.

[BobtheMalodorousAlpaca]

Are we restricting ourselves just to DAI, here? If so, I'll say that Vivienne is the only companion who I really dislike, but I still respect her intelligence and wit, and enjoy her aloof put-downs of others at the same time as loathing her for them.

 

We can go ahead and talk about all of the DA characters. It doesn't need to be restricted to Inquisition.

[BananaDePijama]

I really don't like Vivienne, but I always recruit her in my Sera Romance gameplays

 

Iron Bull is my favorite, probably because of the whole Pansexual, **ssy Destroyer thing... He's very funny, so I like him a lot.

[AtreiyaN7]

Vivienne is a bit too haughty for my tastes. But even so, I do respect her for her intelligence and am usually amused by many of the zingers that she launches at other people.

[Gilli]

I really dislike Sera because of her ignorance, but I love her cookie scene. I think It's the only reason why I try to max out the friendship with her in my PTs.
 
I like.....Oghren's German voice. The only thing that makes me tolerate his drunkness, is that he's voices by the man who voices Captain Haddock.

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[Celtic Latino]

Characters I dislike (but things I like about them):

Anders- He's good at getting on your nerves in DA2, he was also once likable in Awakening. Essential if you're not a mage Hawke or Bethany's not available.

Cole- At the very least his concept is interesting. Plus he's a rogue and designed as a dual dagger rogue at that. Respect to him for being my favorite class type lol.

Solas- His potential in future DA plots keeps him interesting, the twist at the end breathed life into his relevance.

Alistair- One of the best male for female romances in Bioware. I can't stand him but I totally get his appeal at the same time. Also Templar abilities, very useful for clearing out those pesky mage enemies.

Characters I do like (but things I dislike about them):

Dorian- His snobbishness and vanity is extremely grating at times. Needs to take a few steps down from his pedestal.

Vivienne- The fact that she was oversold by her character trailer/writer's blurbs but ultimately under delivered in game. One of the few characters who really doesn't seem to grow in DAI

Cassandra- The way she treats Varric (the assault was completely uncalled for). Granted I thought I'd hate her but I actually really like her except for how she is towards him.

Aveline- That's a tough one as she's one of my favorite characters. I guess that her freckles weren't available for Hawke?

Fenris- That he is so anti mage. I get where he's coming from and at least he's willing to 'agree to disagree', but he could lay off the attitude towards Merrill and the others (sans Anders who pretty much deserves it).

Isabela- That she's so easy to leave and she stinks as far as gameplay goes (she's squishy and barely makes a dent unless you control her).

[d1ta]

Sera:
I dislike Sera mainly because she can't be mature enough to not be combative about the Elven pantheon and beliefs (playing Dalish Inq here) Look, I respect Andraste though not the Chantry but can still be polite about it to Cass, Leli or just anyone really. Sera wants to be Andrastian? Cool beans. But do you HAVE to be rude to someone embracing religion outside your own? (The talk after I brought her to the Arbor Wilds. Big mistake. Should bring Cole/Varric instead) Basically to me it come off like talking to a hater that cant be talked to reason. She doesn't have to agree with me of course (nor would I want to) But it'll be nice if we could just end it with 'lets agree to disagree' stance. She is like the worst version of Imoen (And I absolutely ADORE Imoen. Nobody harms my little sister and lives!)
But I DO appreciate her kind heart (and not just the cookie scene) she wants to help the 'little people' in the best way she knows how (although with questionable methods). Me, Blackwall and Sera pretty much made my 'goody two shoes' team

Erimond:
Congrats BW, for making a character I could hate beyond reason. The only thing I like him is the execution animation. Gloat all you like during judgement, you're still bound to the knees and squirm when your inevitable end approaching fast.

Cassandra:
Love her to bits.. what I don't like about her is.. well... idk really ^^' does her becoming Divine counts? I hate loosing my bff (Viv is a 'no' for me and I as hell would NOT surrender any of my advisors to the Chantry. Sorry Lels.. you're just too valuable for me)

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[JD Buzz]

Blackwall's one of my least favourites, because he's dishonest about himself and fools everyone into thinking he's someone he's not. But what I like is at least he owns up to his past mistakes and makes the effort to redeem himself. 

 

Lord Erimond of Vyrantium... Definitely someone I love to hate. Haha.. I love watching his reaction when my Mage Inquisitor makes him tranquil during judgement.  

 

Cassandra's among my favourites and my Inquisitor's best friend, but losing her after becoming Divine? I know there's an option to let her stay for a time being, however, she'll eventually leave when the chantry calls her. 

[Potato Cat]

Well usually if I don't like a character, it's because I can't find something to like about them. These are generally characters like Cole, Blackwall and Anders who I just find nothing likeable or particularly interesting and sometimes we're not even able to properly call them out on these aspects.

 

Then there's characters that I really don't like as people, but do enjoy as characters. Solas for example, I think is very, very interesting and even though I think his views are at times terrifyingly idiotic, hypocritical and all the other adjectives, I can kinda get it, and he's written well, unlike other characters with similar faults. I really want him as a/the Big Bad. Like the Arishok, he's an antagonist I can just really respect.

[Ninna]

Oghren: The joining scene.

Fenris: He irritated me to no end and made me angry, but I loved his fighting style so much he was pretty much always in my party. I forgot about the rest of the warriors, so much that at one point, when the game required me to go meet Aveline for a side quest, I had a "What, she's still a companion?" moment. Which takes me to the next point:

 

Aveline: Boring. But very sweet, and loyal to my Hawke, till the end (what did I do to gain her loyalty and undying friendship, I don't know. I didn't try. I didn't think I interacted with her that much).

Merrill: Fun spells.

Blackwall: Again, I found him boring, but at the beginning I would take him to fights that I thought would be hard because he's tough. I respect his strength.

 

Sera: Party banter.

[BobtheMalodorousAlpaca]

Well usually if I don't like a character, it's because I can't find something to like about them. These are generally characters like Cole, Blackwall and Anders who I just find nothing likeable or particularly interesting and sometimes we're not even able to properly call them out on these aspects.

 

Then there's characters that I really don't like as people, but do enjoy as characters. Solas for example, I think is very, very interesting and even though I think his views are at times terrifyingly idiotic, hypocritical and all the other adjectives, I can kinda get it, and he's written well, unlike other characters with similar faults. I really want him as a/the Big Bad. Like the Arishok, he's an antagonist I can just really respect.

 

You can't think of a single quality one of those characters possess that you admire or like (for example, Cole's desire to help people)? Do you not like the three characters you mentioned as people, or how they were written?

 

I like Solas both as a character, and as a person. Although I've never really trusted him. I agree that it would be interesting to see him as an antagonist.

[DuskWanderer]

Things I dislike about characters I like 

 

Varric - For all his grousing about Sebastian being too damn nice (and he is), Varric is also too damn nice

 

Cassandra - She's a little too agreeable. Dorian just insulted you, you gonna take that?

 

Leliana - She's far too malleable. One decision to change her mind is not enough

 

Cullen - I needed more from his drug addiction. I wanted to see him shaking and slurring his words. I also wanted more from his praying scene, it would have been a nice contrast to Leliana's "The Maker is a (censored)" and Cassandra's "Is the Maker there?"

 

Josephine - I get that she's got ideals and morals, but seriously, trading favors while your life is as stake?

 

Iron Bull - He's a walking contradiction about the Qun. If the whole point was to show how he really didn't fit in with the Qun, that was great

 

Vivienne - Her banter, particularly with Blackwall, is far too insulting. It would have been better just to be snarky.

 

Blackwall - He was forgettable. I needed either more humor or more angst.

 

Solas - He was far too elf-supremacist. I wanted to punch him every time he knocked on humans. 

 

Things I liked about characters I disliked

 

Sera - Her banter in Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts was lovely. I liked the concept of Sera (if the execution was flawed), and I wanted to see more about the Friends of Red Jenny. She had some funny banter with Varric, with Cassandra, and with Solas

[Melbella]

Solas - He was far too elf-supremacist. I wanted to punch him every time he knocked on humans.

I actually find him to be more of a Solas-supremacist, since he doesn't seem to think much of anyone besides himself most of the time. The more I play DAI, the more I don't like him. Seeing what happens in his arc will be most interesting.  

[Lazarillo]

Let's see, looking at my least favorite companion in each game:

 

For Origins, my least favorite character was Wynne.  Hypocritical, self-righteous, and not really all that interesting in terms of backstory.  But I will give her credit in that she did always mean well, even if she didn't really think things through, and changing her ways probably wasn't a priority with such a short amount of time left (even if the novels did stretch that back into another decade or so, from what I understand).

 

For Awakening, it's Velanna who ticks me off, but I do admire her passion and her dedication to her sister.  It's not hard to imagine doing something similar, perhaps, if put into her situation.  I suppose my beef with her is more that she just felt utterly inappropriate as a companion, but you couldn't correct her without recruiting her, and the only other option was to kill her over the same misunderstanding that I can't really fault her for.

 

For DA2, Fenris is shallow and utterly irrelevant to the story, existing only to growl the word "mmmmmmagic" on occasion.  But I do like his concept and backstory.  There's a frack-ton of potential there, from his time spent in Seheron, and his perspective on Tevinter society, to everything he could have been doing to move forward if the game had given him a chance.

 

For Inquisition...Vivienne...I got nothin'.  She's just obnoxious.  I cannot think of a single redeeming trait.  So I'll go with Sera, who is my second least favorite here, and admit she's generally just pretty fun to be around when she isn't being played seriously.  She reminds me of that cool relative or friend who you always have a fun time with until they just nonchalantly spit out some sort of loaded awful or offensive political statement.

[myahele]

I like that I can kick out Sera whenever I feel like

[BobtheMalodorousAlpaca]

I like that I can kick out Sera whenever I feel like

 

I suppose that's... something. Anything that you actually like about her?

[S.W.]

Things I like about characters I don't like:

 

Wynne: I find the conversation at the Temple of Sacred Ashes really intruiging - I think it shows a different side to Wynne's irritating mother-hen tendencies, one which sadly doesn't come out or is criticised again during her personal quest. I also enjoy pissing her off and killing her by doing things such as defiling the ashes or destroying he circle.

 

Anders: The character development intended for him - to move from a jovial wisecracker that you couldn't quite trust in Awakening to a character that was much more sincere, who tried to do something about that damn chip on his shoulder, and get tragically consumed in the process, was a marvellous idea. The execution of that development completely lacking. I liked, however, that he had enough resolve to blow up a bloody chantry - although I wish he'd tried to justify that action much better in the game. I blame his VA partially for fluffing some of the funnier lines, but they were still damn funny. In short, I love Anders in concept, even if he's a bloody headache to play through in game.

 

Aveline: She's pretty dull, in my opinion, but she tanks like nothing else.

 

Fenris: Too broody with too little reward for my tastes in most banters and plot dialogue (this is my own fault for always taking Anders and Fenris out together), but I found his character arc - with his involvement with fog warriors on Seheron - really poignant, and tragic, and lovely. His personal scenes make up for his general demeanour. Fenris grows on me - I still find him and his anti-mage stuff a chore, but he grows. His views on elves - and his banters with Merrill - are really refreshing and interesting, and it's nice to see a nuanced perspective on the elves which doesn't clearly fall into a camp. Also, his VA, mmmmm.

 

Corypheus: Despite being the ultimate blander than bland cookie cutter villain which combines literally everything DA's taught you to hate - darkspawn, blood magic (required to break the veil), slave owners - I really like some of the relationship you see between him and Samson in thecodex entries: he almost regrets what's going on. There's something sincere to him, I think, when he talks about seeing the throne of the Black City being empty, there's something sincere when he dies and prays to Dumat - adding, 'if you ever existed'. This guy, remember, was a high ****** priest of Dumat. His faith has been so completely shaken even if you barely see it in his lacking dialogue and acting (why they did not hire a hammy actor for Coryphepuss I have no idea), and there's something human about that despite DARKSPAWN ANCIENT MAGISTER.

[BraveVesperia]

Least favourite-

Anders: I like the fact that he is genuinely trying to help his people, despite the cost. He has a lot of determination and passion.

Oghren: Uh... I like the fact that he tries to be funny? I guess?

 

Others-

Velanna: I like how dedicated she is to her people and to her sister, to the point she'll go into the Deep Roads just to save Seranni. Also the fact that she will listen to your opposition of her views (it often gives approval too).

Morrigan: She genuinely loves Kieran and do right by him, which is especially commendable considering where she learnt how to be a mother. She also wants to preserve ancient lore.

Sebastian: During DA2, I like the fact that he wants to be a worthy leader and tries to consider his decision responsibly.

Blackwall: He wants to atone for his past misdeeds and spend his life helping people. He will eventual confront his past.

Iron Bull: I like that he lost his eye protecting a complete stranger, and clearly cares about people.

Cullen: He tries to do the right thing in DAI, regrets his past attitude. Sometimes he's pretty funny too.

[RawToast]

I dislike sera and vivienne but i do love seras fun loving nature and aloofness and vivs wit, even if she does use it to put others down, which i dislike.

[Magdalena11]

I don't dislike any of the characters, but the ones I react negatively to are the ones that express characteristics that mean something negative to me, that I see in myself.

 

For me, it's Vivienne, who to me, represents Ambition, which can be very destructive if you're on the receiving end.  But, even so, she also represents Accomplishment, which I value as a trait to be honored.  Why shouldn't she be recognized for her accomplishents?  I just make sure to bring her along to help me find her own stupid books and wyvern.

 

Solas strikes a personal chord that I don't care for.  He's amazingly well written, though, so I smile and wave as I cut through his office to get to Cullen.

 

I adore Blackwall, because to me, he represents Redemption.  

 

Varric reminds me of my very first teacher.  Cullen does, too.

 

Dorian knows what it means to be forced to conform.

 

Bull is just so enthusiastic, he always winds up in over his head.

[c00lgy24]

Carver for me ! He can be a righteous a$$ sometimes , but depending on how you play your Hawke his arc is very true to life (for me)

[(Disgusted noise.)]

I love Sebastian's fashion sense. I want to steal his armor... off his corpse.