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#51
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So are we not needing Mass Relays to travel around the galaxy anymore? I can't see how there would be any Relays in Andromeda unless the Reapers built some there too. But the ship in the trailer seemed to manage just fine without a Relay.

 

WHo needs mass relays when you can just wave your hand and be in another galaxy?


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I don't see how it can only be "one cluster" since this new mass effect is suppose to be three times bigger than ME3. 

 

A star cluster is supposed to contain hundreds if not thousands of planets. In ME3, we visited not even 1% of the star systems in a cluster, Shepard was just going to know systems and planets in it, it wasn't about exploration.



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A star cluster would have to be massive to have hundreds of planets like the leak suggests. Like along the lines of hundreds or thousands of light years across. Convential FTL cannot do that efficiently. It would take weeks to get from one end to the other. 



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A star cluster would have to be massive to have hundreds of planets like the leak suggests. Like along the lines of hundreds or thousands of light years across. Convential FTL cannot do that efficiently. It would take weeks to get from one end to the other. 

Which would mean we need Relays, or some other technology that can allow us to travel massive distances in short amounts of time



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Hanako Ikezawa

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Which would mean we need Relays, or some other technology that can allow us to travel massive distances in short amounts of time

Exactly. Mass Relays would make the travel between them near instantaneous, solving the problem. 



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A star cluster would have to be massive to have hundreds of planets like the leak suggests. Like along the lines of hundreds or thousands of light years across. Convential FTL cannot do that efficiently. It would take weeks to get from one end to the other.


This is a series that constantly fails at science. Don't try too hard to think of a scientific explanation that could as easily be explained by a misunderstanding.
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This is a series that constantly fails at science. Don't try too hard to think of a scientific explanation that could as easily be explained by a misunderstanding.

It doesn't just fail at science.  That part can be understood.

 

But it fails at its own space magic.  Even the stuff that's not scientific isn't following its own rules.



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Let's just wait for the explanation, let's hope it's consistent with the lore and believable.



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Let's just wait for the explanation, let's hope it's consistent with the lore and believable.

I had hope, once.

 

In 2012



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They're keeping hush about it (from this interview), but if this takes place millennia after the events of the trilogy, I'm willing to guess that at this point they've mastered the technology contained within the relays and managed to put the technology into ships so that jumps are possible.

 

and so that bioware don't have to repair the relays from the endings



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WHo needs mass relays when you can just wave your hand and be in another galaxy?

Yeah, I don't think they're going to be relays.  Here's an interesting bit from Arstechnica:

 

http://arstechnica.c...fect-andromeda/

 

I like the bit where Flynn says that Walters regrets that they spread ME out over the entire Milky Way, and the bit about the relays?  They'll talk about that later.



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they destroyed the mass relay at the end of mass effect 3 No?



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I believe humanity was researching some form of a hyperdrive before the Relay's were discovered. What if your ship is a prototype? While the other ships are still plains with propellers, your ships is like a jet. Woosh! My apologies if that was a bad comparison.

Regardless, when the ship jumped, that did resemble a hyperspace tunnel similar to Star Wars.

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I believe humanity was researching some form of a hyperdrive before the Relay's were discovered. What if your ship is a prototype? While the other ships are still plains with propellers, your ships is like a jet. Woosh! My apologies if that was a bad comparison.

Regardless, when the ship jumped, that did resemble a hyperspace tunnel similar to Star Wars.

And the Reapers didn't have this technology because...reasons?



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If we're only in one cluster I don't think we'll need Mass Relays. Besides, I doubt one exists in Andromeda.



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they destroyed the mass relay at the end of mass effect 3 No?

 

Damaged, but not destroyed entirely.



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they destroyed the mass relay at the end of mass effect 3 No?

No, they repaired them.



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If we're only in one cluster I don't think we'll need Mass Relays. Besides, I doubt one exists in Andromeda.

But what if there are, meaning the Reapers also harvested Andromeda, and that we haven't defeated the Reapers truly?

 

please don't do this bioware



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And the Reapers didn't have this technology because...reasons?


I thought the Reapers wanted people to advance down a certain path.

Population control, perhaps... ?

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But what if there are, meaning the Reapers also harvested Andromeda, and that we haven't defeated the Reapers truly?

 

please don't do this bioware

 

That would invalidate the entire original trilogy. I'd like to think Bioware is smarter than that.


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It doesn't just fail at science. That part can be understood.

But it fails at its own space magic. Even the stuff that's not scientific isn't following its own rules.


The stuff that isn't science can't follow it's own rules because it doesn't have any rules. It's made up nonsense.

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And the Reapers didn't have this technology because...reasons?


How did 1930s England have guns but metallurgy that couldn't make Damascus Steel?

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You can't naturally evolve the lore surrounding the Mass Relay technology without completely suspending disbelief and retconning. The Reapers couldn't get their OWN TECHNOLOGY to work on that level, otherwise they would've just installed mini-relays or whatever into themselves so they could jump back and forth between galaxies, dark space etc easily.

 

If over millions of years the Reapers can't advance the mass relay technology, their own technology, to that point - I'm not buying that humanity or any other civilisation could do it in a few hundred years, especially when all of their technology is based on the Reapers' technology.

This is an incorrect assumption.

 

Reapers didn't need to evolve/upgrade. They were perfectly suited for their task.

 

Getting Relays into Andromeda is easy and has nothing to do with bringing the Reapers back. Just retcon their origin as being extragalactic to begin with, communicated to the Leviathans/Reapers Contact style. Not the prettiest solution, but it gets the job done, and it doesn't invalidate the trilogy or the distance moved from it.

 

>tag-line is "Explore a new galaxy

>can only explore a single cluster

Or maybe they're pacing themselves this time. How did going straight for 'here's an entire galaxy and related galactic threat" from the get-go work out last time?



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A star cluster would have to be massive to have hundreds of planets like the leak suggests. Like along the lines of hundreds or thousands of light years across. Convential FTL cannot do that efficiently. It would take weeks to get from one end to the other.


Well, what if it does take weeks? That would mean that the plot would play out over a few years. Is that a problem?

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A star cluster would have to be massive to have hundreds of planets like the leak suggests. Like along the lines of hundreds or thousands of light years across. Convential FTL cannot do that efficiently. It would take weeks to get from one end to the other. 

Hell, we've apparently crossed a 2.5 million light year gulf of dark space.  A feat beyond even the Reapers.  

 

What's a few thousand more light years compared to that space magic?   :lol: