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#76
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I'm glad they're out of the Milky Way.  They can't do all three ending world states and even if they picked one then fans would complain that one was chosen as the canon end.  If they rebooted the game, then fans would complain that it's just a retcon.  Then fans would demand cameos.  Might as well start over fresh. 

^^^^^^^^^

 

Sometimes fans are truly the epitome of annoying. (In general)


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So I guess the fan panel is the only place they got their information from GalacticWolf5? I remember a lot of folks requesting that on these very forums and elsewhere. It's been a long running request as far back as the original trilogy. But it's a moot point since they ignored it for this game.



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Yeah the Milky way galaxy could totally kick the Andromeda galaxies butt. We're like in the best galaxy like ever in any universe ever.

Milky way all the way... or something.



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After DAI I won't be preordering any Bioware game ever again...or buying at all until after it has been out a LONG time and hopefully fixed/complete. I'll get them after they hit the bargain bin.

Well, they are different teams, to be fair.  But DA:I killed the DA universe for me, and ME:A is doing that for ME universe.  Yes, the ME trilogy story was total garbage overall with some great moments here and there.  But now we get to see this team jump to some other galaxy..so all the creation of our own galaxy is gone, and we have a redo in some ridiculously distant world, where what...they will magically make it all better?  In a way this insults the original game fanbase, saying hey, you know all that story and what not?  Irrelevant.

 

Sure, Bioware is all about the story, so let's make a story so bad and so impossible to resolve, that we ignore the whole thing by jumping to another galaxy....  Pathetic, really.  It's just too ridiculous at this point, and the amazingly bad theme song for the trailer just underscores for me how absurd this franchise has gotten.  I mean, I thought it was a joke, at first, some fake user made thing.  I still think it's a joke, that's how absurd it all is.



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I hate galaxies.



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Just remember, a clean slate means they have the freedom to do what they want without everything being Shepard's shadow. Bioware will truly be able to move in now that they are in a time and place that has never heard of Shepard and the Reapers, effectively meaning that we are at where we were at the beginning of Mass Effect. It's honestly the best decision they could make with the position ME3 left them.

 

Pretty much this.

Time to move on.



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Overall I'm excited. I still have faith in Bioware, somehow, and I really hope they're going to be able to pull through with what they have here.

 

I understand why they chose to make the game in another galaxy, and considering Mass Effect 3's endings, this is really the only choice they had. Ideally, Mass Effect 3's endings wouldn't have been as diverse as they are, and the next Mass Effect would take place in the milky way, but I think this is the best option with what they have. I hate prequels so I am very glad it didn't go in that direction.

 

I'm a little confused as to why they're not including racial choice. I thought moving the series forward without Shepard would be easiest by allowing players to chooses a different race, and I'm not sure why it couldn't be fit in here. It'll take a lot of work to make up for that.

 

My biggest fear right now is that the game will have too much emphasis on exploration, as it sounds like it will be, honestly. I like exploration, but I did not like the exploration in Dragon Age Inquisition. It felt so empty and lonely to me, personally. I also fear that there won't be many opportunities to run around and do trivial things like you can in many Bioware games. I can't imagine being able to have much downtime in a galaxy where places for it do not yet exist in the first place. 

 

We'll see. I'm keeping an open mind. Please make me love the characters, especially the main character, as much as I did in the other three games, Bioware.


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I am not against Andromeda because its Andromeda and I understand why they had to do it and even support them in their decision, they really had no other options without digging out ME3 and changing it. I am not upset at them for that. I am just a bit disappointed that they had to do it at all. The same game, with exploration and stuff could have been done in the Milky Way galaxy if the ME3 ending didn't change things in such fundamental way. 

 

That is the whole point, I get it why they did it, I fully accept the fact and I do not plan to boycott the game or anything like that but because the previous game turned out to have such a landmine right at the exit I am going to be extra careful this time. 



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Why would you want to go back to the milky way galaxy after mass effect 3's ending? We're you expecting some sort of prequel?

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Why would you want to go back to the milky way galaxy after mass effect 3's ending? We're you expecting some sort of prequel?

 

No a sequel. A game set after the reapers, after the people of the galaxy win the war with shepards help. In my mind while playing ME3 I thought that when Shepard gathers all the different races together, all the war assets, builds the crucible, brings it in to the citadel, connects it and then it works like a Reaper-emp, shutting down a lot of them or maybe crippling them seriously so that united fleet can destroy them. 

It would have been a perfect jumping off point for the next game, Reapers defeated, galaxy still recovering and in parts in chaos after the war and so you as a main character are sent froth into the galaxy to right the wrongs, to discover new planets through the relays, to basically take names and kick ass. And give it some time like 20-50 years so that you can safely demote Shepard and companions to cameos, a lore entry talking about Shepard retiring or doing something after the war if he survived depending on the save file, same with other companions. Maybe bring back someone who is expected to play a large role(not Liara, she is a shadow broker she should stay in shadows) and thats it. That is what I thought would happen. 

Before the ending that is.


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I don't get it, the new game is in a separate galaxy right? So absolutely no Reaper presence at all?

 

Is this like a galactic community expedition something? 100,000 of each species migrating to a new galaxy for population, resource and science researching? 



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No a sequel. A game set after the reapers, after the people of the galaxy win the war with shepards help. In my mind while playing ME3 I thought that when Shepard gathers all the different races together, all the war assets, builds the crucible, brings it in to the citadel, connects it and then it works like a Reaper-emp, shutting down a lot of them or maybe crippling them seriously so that united fleet can destroy them.
It would have been a perfect jumping off point for the next game, Reapers defeated, galaxy still recovering and in parts in chaos after the war and so you as a main character are sent froth into the galaxy to right the wrongs, to discover new planets through the relays, to basically take names and kick ass. And give it some time like 20-50 years so that you can safely demote Shepard and companions to cameos, a lore entry talking about Shepard retiring or doing something after the war if he survived depending on the save file, same with other companions. Maybe bring back someone who is expected to play a large role(not Liara, she is a shadow broker she should stay in shadows) and thats it. That is what I thought would happen.
Before the ending that is.


How was a sequel going to work with the variety of the endings? I haven't played mass effect 3 in years but from what I remember, each ending greatly affected the whole galaxy.
Didn't destroy straight up damage/destroy the mass relays?
Your idea sounds like the main character would basically be Shepard 2.0 and I'm not sure if that's a good idea.

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I don't get it, the new game is in a separate galaxy right? So absolutely no Reaper presence at all?

 

Is this like a galactic community expedition something? 100,000 of each species migrating to a new galaxy for population, resource and science researching? 

 

Or maybe just a bit of Jingoistic Expansion. B)



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The trailer screams CLEAN SLATE. Bioware are trying to distance themselves as much as possible from the mess they created with the ME3 endings.
I can understand that reasoning. And I even think most people will actually appreciate it, considering how much resentment people still harbor. For many Shepard's story is tainted now.
Starting over will feel like liberation, I guess.

It's not a bad move from the company's perspective. Perhaps the ONLY sound option they have. They get to ride on the success of the trilogy but it's not going to be like it at all. The new game has Mass Effect in the title but it will be a completely different experience. Which is always a good thing for drawing in new people.

Andromeda feels like a symbolic fresh start for Bioware. And it invited the fans to do the same. Let go of the past. Let go of Shepard and how we screwed you over.
Embrace FREEDOM.
After the FORCED endings in ME3, Andromeda tries to be more easy-going. More lighthearted. Like Firefly perhaps. It comes across like a vacation offer after PTSD.

It might actually work for a lot of people. Not sure about me. I still have enough faith in Bioware characters to assume that I'll like the game. But it looks like it will feel NOTHING like the trilogy.

There was hardly anything familiar in the trailer, or let's say nothing to connect with EMOTIONALLY . Except for the N7 logo, that was actually a little painful. A blurry split second korgan, that was all. No sense at all of meeting old friends. It's not coming home, it's going away. Far far away.

The trailer felt nothing like Mass Effect to me. More like HALO. Hate the jetpack. I want to see some biotics!

And I guess that was the point. The music too.
The trailer is trying to get us used to the idea that Andromeda is something new, something different.

I'm not one those people who hate change on principle. I'll just have to see this game as a stand alone Bioware space western, as they seem to want it too, and maybe then it will be OK...

Still... can't help feeling a little sad that Shepard and everyone I loved is truly gone. Now after three years, haha.
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ME:A is going to ignore the whole milky way thing, its like 90% certain right now and I dont care anymore. ME games used to be that special treat you get, something other games get compared to... something that gets replayed at least once a year. But now...I dont care. ME:A has now been relegated to the pile of games that I am not going to wait for...

And considering there is more than a year before the release( if I understand holidays 2016 correctly its december 2016) I am probably going to forget about it until it gets released, a game which has dropped from must have to "if its good enough and I have money to spare". Shame. I really used to love the franchise. 

Well I told you so man xD there are many alternatives! Final Fantasy VII is getting a remake, DOOM 4 and FALLOUT 4 MANNN!! DOOOOOMMMMM MANNN that started the whole gory satanist Sci-fi FPS GENRE ON MARS!!!! Deus Ex Mankind Divided! COME TO STEAM!!!!


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I'm sorry you feel that way. 

"I'm sorry you milk that way", I read.

Anyway, it's the smartest thing they did to fix the ME3 flop. You can pretend everything that happened was in shepard head, and that humanity goes to andromeda to escape the reapers. Unless they have already said that you go there just to explore for money.



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Well I told you so man xD there are many alternatives! Final Fantasy VII is getting a remake, DOOM 4 and FALLOUT 4 MANNN!! DOOOOOMMMMM MANNN that started the whole gory satanist Sci-fi FPS GENRE ON MARS!!!! Deus Ex Mankind Divided! COME TO STEAM!!!!

 

I am on steam. And yeah Fallout 4, I am excited about that one, and the new Deus Ex.

 

 

How was a sequel going to work with the variety of the endings? I haven't played mass effect 3 in years but from what I remember, each ending greatly affected the whole galaxy.
Didn't destroy straight up damage/destroy the mass relays?
Your idea sounds like the main character would basically be Shepard 2.0 and I'm not sure if that's a good idea.

 

You are not understanding my point. Before I completed the game that is what I thought. Before I knew there are multiple diverging endings, I didn't even think that someone could make endings so thematically difficult to follow. I thought it would be a sliding scale of "low EMS-shepard dead+lot of people dead but reapers defeated" to "high EMS shepard alive, squaddies alive, basically happy ending." Like the DAO ending, depending on your choices it changes but the main point stays the same. 

As for my idea, no its not shepard 2.0, because there is no "save the galaxy from big bad" thing, its just lots of smaller things, more personal things, saving a couple of people from slavers, defeating a merc band, disbanding a reaper cult, and other stuff like that. 


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I am on steam. And yeah Fallout 4, I am excited about that one, and the new Deus Ex.

 

 

 

You are not understanding my point. Before I completed the game that is what I thought. Before I knew there are multiple diverging endings, I didn't even think that someone could make endings so thematically difficult to follow. I thought it would be a sliding scale of "low EMS-shepard dead+lot of people dead but reapers defeated" to "high EMS shepard alive, squaddies alive, basically happy ending." Like the DAO ending, depending on your choices it changes but the main point stays the same. 

As for my idea, no its not shepard 2.0, because there is no "save the galaxy from big bad" thing, its just lots of smaller things, more personal things, saving a couple of people from slavers, defeating a merc band, disbanding a reaper cult, and other stuff like that. 

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No a sequel. A game set after the reapers, after the people of the galaxy win the war with shepards help. In my mind while playing ME3 I thought that when Shepard gathers all the different races together, all the war assets, builds the crucible, brings it in to the citadel, connects it and then it works like a Reaper-emp, shutting down a lot of them or maybe crippling them seriously so that united fleet can destroy them. 

It would have been a perfect jumping off point for the next game, Reapers defeated, galaxy still recovering and in parts in chaos after the war and so you as a main character are sent froth into the galaxy to right the wrongs, to discover new planets through the relays, to basically take names and kick ass. And give it some time like 20-50 years so that you can safely demote Shepard and companions to cameos, a lore entry talking about Shepard retiring or doing something after the war if he survived depending on the save file, same with other companions. Maybe bring back someone who is expected to play a large role(not Liara, she is a shadow broker she should stay in shadows) and thats it. That is what I thought would happen. 

Before the ending that is.

 

That doesn't sound like an interesting game. Join us for the next episode of Mass Effect, where absolutely nothing as epic as the last game will ever happen again, we promise! ME4: a notch below the series high point. 

 

And that's the problem with following up on ME3, even if the ending weren't total nonsense. 


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That doesn't sound like an interesting game. Join us for the next episode of Mass Effect, where absolutely nothing as epic as the last game will ever happen again, we promise! ME4: a notch below the series high point. 

 

And that's the problem with following up on ME3, even if the ending weren't total nonsense. 

 

A game can be interesting without trying to outdo the previous one in everything. There is absolutely no need to reinvent the wheel.



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A game can be interesting without trying to outdo the previous one in everything. There is absolutely no need to reinvent the wheel.

 

Can and will are two very different things. Personally, I was leaning towards complete apathy towards the setting b/c nothing could be on the scale of galactic extinction. 



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Well, they are different teams, to be fair.  But DA:I killed the DA universe for me, and ME:A is doing that for ME universe.  Yes, the ME trilogy story was total garbage overall with some great moments here and there.  But now we get to see this team jump to some other galaxy..so all the creation of our own galaxy is gone, and we have a redo in some ridiculously distant world, where what...they will magically make it all better?  In a way this insults the original game fanbase, saying hey, you know all that story and what not?  Irrelevant.

 

Sure, Bioware is all about the story, so let's make a story so bad and so impossible to resolve, that we ignore the whole thing by jumping to another galaxy....  Pathetic, really.  It's just too ridiculous at this point, and the amazingly bad theme song for the trailer just underscores for me how absurd this franchise has gotten.  I mean, I thought it was a joke, at first, some fake user made thing.  I still think it's a joke, that's how absurd it all is.

 

Well if you thought the ME trilogy was already trash then I guess there's no reason to be upset, no?



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It's amazing how quickly the world went from hating ME3 and its endings to outrage over the lack of Milky Way Galaxy.

It's amazing you didn't realize that outrage was because the endings ruined the Milky Way Galaxy. The problem is the same as it was in March 2012, only in the 3 years since, BioWare has done absolutely nothing about it, and Mass Effect: Andromeda is demonstrating that they are actively fleeing it.


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It's amazing how quickly the world went from hating ME3 and its endings to outrage over the lack of Milky Way Galaxy. 

 

I still haven't forgotten.  Up until the last five minutes, I couldn't get over how great ME3 was.  It was the best game I had ever played.  That ending was so bad that I haven't touched it, or any of the other titles, since.  I passed on DA:I without even bothering to read reviews.  I hear Hudson is gone, which is a boon to this game, but until I see that his awful ideas haven't made it into the game, I won't be picking this one up.  As it stands, I'll probably wait until it hits the bargain bin.  I'm not outraged over the lack of the Milky Way, far worse.  I'm indifferent.  



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Well, after mE3, I never preordered any game again. I didn't buy DAI as well. So, lesson learned!