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Because if they ignore everything that happend 

 

it's lazy and cheap

 

and its why we are mass effect fans to begin with ( the 3 games)

 

How is it "lazy and Cheap"?

 

Why not just keep playing the three games?

 

It seems like you just want Shepard and the crew to continue into forever.  Too bad.


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The Leviathan of Dis was a billion year old Reaper, thereby making the Reapers more than a billion years old. Stop being ignorant.


That is not what I quoted...

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What do you mean? CoD has definitely changed. They're fighting zombies and **** now... and have weapons like Titanfall. 

 

Not that that any of that is good. It's kind of strange actually..considering the series' roots.

Well, before black ops three that is... which I might buy. 



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Well, before black ops three that is... which I might buy. 

 

The one that's out now (Advanced Warfare) has the sci-fi ish stuff already.



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The one that's out now (Advanced Warfare) has the sci-fi ish stuff already.

And I know a good number of CoD'ers who were not happy with the "new fangled sci-fi mumbo jumbo".  they don't want to move beyond "near future"...

 

Wait...this sounds familiar. LOL



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How is it "lazy and Cheap"?

 

Why not just keep playing the three games?

 

It seems like you just want Shepard and the crew to continue into forever.  Too bad.

Mabye because i want to see more ?

 

but that dosent give them the right to just forget about everything that happend in Me 1-3

 

so if they do that is lazy and cheap

 

Because mass effect 3 had big problems and just brushing that under the carpet away with it is lazy.



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And there are Halo fans that are all in an uproar over ADS (Aim down sights) being added to their beloved shooter.  I mean UPSET.

 

Just more examples of how some people are so averse to change.



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I'm saying they're institutionally stupid. If people aren't even looking at history, then that's not using critical thought.

 

 

You can still be religious and challenge your own faith with critical thought. Religious scholars do it all the time. Some to the point where they get accused of being atheists. Especially the "liberal" ones. But they are people of faith and intellectual at the same time. If you can't even do that, then yes, it's stupid.

 

Yeah, like I said you're saying that newer religions or beliefs makes you stupid. And I'm saying I disagree.

Your problem is your belief about what you think a religious civilisation can achieve, that's not a problem with the story, that's just your belief clouding your judgement. Like I pointed out, religious civilisations have achieved many advanced technological feats, and newer religions or beliefs popping up doesn't change the technological achievements of a civilisation. You can even see that in todays day and age.

 

Rather than using your imagination about what makes a civilisation stupid, perhaps you should look at the world around you and realise it's in your imagination, then accept that it wouldn't be any different in the ME universe randomly.
 

 

While Hackett survives in low EMS destroy, he's in a weakened fleet, next to a nearly blackened Earth.. with no relays. Exactly how they are going to advance so quickly?

 

"Quickly", when they said "A long time after".

Drop your headcanon about "quickly".



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Mabye because i want to see more ?

 

but that dosent give them the right to just forget about everything that happend in Me 1-3

 

so if they do that is lazy and cheap

 

Because mass effect 3 had big problems and just brushing that under the carpet away with it is lazy.

 

So because YOU want to see more, that makes them lazy? To me, lazy would be to keep things going because people are afraid of change.  That would be easy.

 

Give them "the right"? You have no entitlement.  It's their game.  You're just along for the ride. You have zero ownership.

 

And the problems that you claim are "big" are just an opinion you share with a vocal few.  Don't mistake volume for consensus.  All games and stories have problems.  But they're entertainment.  Enjoy it or don't, but don't think for one second that you have any "rights" here.  


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That's not what Jediism is. But your most important part was "true beliefs". What is a "true belief"?

 

ME:A has plot holes that contradict itself, which is where all these issues and complaints are coming from? Source?

 

 

 

 

Source? The trailer.  They are using Mass Effect Original Trilogy Era Milky Way technology and weapons.  That alone has monumentally contradicting implications.

 

And "true Belief", in terms of religion, is based on actual historical figures.  This is why greek gods are no longer worshipped.

Religion doesn't really work when we still have recorded documents of the people they are supposedly based on.  Which is also part of why Scientology isn't taken very seriously.

Like a religion of Shepard doesn't work because there's nothing to aggrandize.  Any attempt to glorify Shepard beyond what actually happened would be immediately shut down by bringing up the holovids and records directly SHOWING what happened.  UNLESS all records are lost, which would imply that ALL records are lost, not just those of Shepard, which also implies that society was indeed reset to a relative stoneage, which in turn raises questions of how the heck they made it over to Andromeda in that condition, let alone with apparently "current" technology.

 

 

We have no doubt they will come up with some "Reason", the issue right now is that it looks like the reason will be just a halfassed handwave that raises more questions than it answers (Like most of the ME3 writing).

 

 

 

 

On the flip side, there is stuff like the Slender Man mythos.  In that we all know its just a contest design from a website a few years ago, but we also just accept it as general folklore like the boogeyman and vampires.  But then even if we deify shepard, it would still come with the acceptance that its intentional deification while simultaneously knowing that it's not really true.


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So because YOU want to see more, that makes them lazy? To me, lazy would be to keep things going because people are afraid of change.  That would be easy.

 

Give them "the right"? You have no entitlement.  It's their game.  You're just along for the ride. You have zero ownership.

 

And the problems that you claim are "big" are just an opinion you share with a vocal few.  Don't mistake volume for consensus.  All games and stories have problems.  But they're entertainment.  Enjoy it or don't, but don't think for one second that you have any "rights" here.  

The defending is strong with this one, dude just let it go 

 

I got my opinion and you have yours.



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I don't know but I'm happy this is gonna bea. Completely new story with brand new characters and locations. Why do people want the same thing over and over again??

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Your problem is your belief about what you think a religious civilisation can achieve, that's not a problem with the story, that's just your belief clouding your judgement. Like I pointed out, religious civilisations have achieved many advanced technological feats

 

Now I'm curious. Give me an example of these feats. And I mean purely religious... one without critical thinking in their institutions. The West has made advances with religion and critical thought in place, but not really before that. When the West was purely religious, it didn't do much (medieval era had developed water mills, for example. It helped automate work and they understood a new form of "power", but that's not much). Other regions didn't fare better. China accidentally invented gunpowder, but it was originally meant to be in a "potion" for immortality.

 

 

 

 

"Quickly", when they said "A long time after".

Drop your headcanon about "quickly".

 

 

I was willing to do that from the beginning. I only asked how long you think it was. Look back at our first posts together. Before that, it's you that made it sound so trivial to advance past the Reapers.



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The defending is strong with this one, dude just let it go 

 

I got my opinion and you have yours.

 

You made a strong statement. I made a strong retort.  



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Source? The trailer.  They are using Mass Effect Original Trilogy Era Milky Way technology and weapons.  That alone has monumentally contradicting implications.

 

And "true Belief", in terms of religion, is based on actual historical figures.  This is why greek gods are no longer worshipped.

Religion doesn't really work when we still have recorded documents of the people they are supposedly based on.  Which is also part of why Scientology isn't taken very seriously.

Like a religion of Shepard doesn't work because there's nothing to aggrandize.  Any attempt to glorify Shepard beyond what actually happened would be immediately shut down by bringing up the holovids and records directly SHOWING what happened.  UNLESS all records are lost, which would imply that ALL records are lost, not just those of Shepard, which also implies that society was indeed reset to a relative stoneage, which in turn raises questions of how the heck they made it over to Andromeda in that condition, let alone with apparently "current" technology.

 

 

We have no doubt they will come up with some "Reason", the issue right now is that it looks like the reason will be just a halfassed handwave that raises more questions than it answers (Like most of the ME3 writing).

 

 

 

 

On the flip side, there is stuff like the Slender Man mythos.  In that we all know its just a contest design from a website a few years ago, but we also just accept it as general folklore like the boogeyman and vampires.  But then even if we deify shepard, it would still come with the acceptance that its intentional deification while simultaneously knowing that it's not really true.

 

 

how long was that trailer? Cuz I missed all of this...


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#266
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You made a strong statement. I made a strong retort.  

The end.


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The end.

No...

 

 

NOW it's THE END!  

 

:bandit:


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Because they care about it?

 

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That stupid ending basically killed any chance for a sequal.  A fresh start is the only way to create new  Mass Effect goodness.  I'd prefer another Shep game, but really how can the studio go forward maintaining three possible endings?



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 but really how can the studio go forward maintaining three possible endings?

 

This part.  this is what I agree with.

 

Only there were really four (i.e. refuse)



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Source? The trailer.  They are using Mass Effect Original Trilogy Era Milky Way technology and weapons.  That alone has monumentally contradicting implications.

 

And "true Belief", in terms of religion, is based on actual historical figures.  This is why greek gods are no longer worshipped.

Religion doesn't really work when we still have recorded documents of the people they are supposedly based on.  Which is also part of why Scientology isn't taken very seriously.

 

So Hinduiism wouldn't clasify as a "true belief" for you because it's not based on actual historical figures? What about Christianity, as the bible is the only evidence of Jesus existing. Does it also not clasify as a "true belief" due to not having any historical evidence?
 

 

Like a religion of Shepard doesn't work because there's nothing to aggrandize.  Any attempt to glorify Shepard beyond what actually happened would be immediately shut down by bringing up the holovids and records directly SHOWING what happened.  UNLESS all records are lost, which would imply that ALL records are lost, not just those of Shepard, which also implies that society was indeed reset to a relative stoneage, which in turn raises questions of how the heck they made it over to Andromeda in that condition, let alone with apparently "current" technology.

 

We have no doubt they will come up with some "Reason", the issue right now is that it looks like the reason will be just a halfassed handwave that raises more questions than it answers (Like most of the ME3 writing).

 

On the flip side, there is stuff like the Slender Man mythos.  In that we all know its just a contest design from a website a few years ago, but we also just accept it as general folklore like the boogeyman and vampires.  But then even if we deify shepard, it would still come with the acceptance that its intentional deification while simultaneously knowing that it's not really true.

 

You say your source is the trailer, yet the Mako seems to be a more updated version, so the only thing would be the Carnifex. Are you saying that the use of older technology is a "plot hole"? How would that be classified as a "plot hole"?

As for your religion about Shepard aspect, there's nothing that can be said there until you clarify what counts as a "true belief". After you do that, we can get back to this talk about beliefs and religion and Shepard.



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Source? The trailer.  They are using Mass Effect Original Trilogy Era Milky Way technology and weapons.  That alone has monumentally contradicting implications.

 

And "true Belief", in terms of religion, is based on actual historical figures.  This is why greek gods are no longer worshipped.

Religion doesn't really work when we still have recorded documents of the people they are supposedly based on.  Which is also part of why Scientology isn't taken very seriously.

Like a religion of Shepard doesn't work because there's nothing to aggrandize.  Any attempt to glorify Shepard beyond what actually happened would be immediately shut down by bringing up the holovids and records directly SHOWING what happened.  UNLESS all records are lost, which would imply that ALL records are lost, not just those of Shepard, which also implies that society was indeed reset to a relative stoneage, which in turn raises questions of how the heck they made it over to Andromeda in that condition, let alone with apparently "current" technology.

 

 

We have no doubt they will come up with some "Reason", the issue right now is that it looks like the reason will be just a halfassed handwave that raises more questions than it answers (Like most of the ME3 writing).

 

 

 

 

On the flip side, there is stuff like the Slender Man mythos.  In that we all know its just a contest design from a website a few years ago, but we also just accept it as general folklore like the boogeyman and vampires.  But then even if we deify shepard, it would still come with the acceptance that its intentional deification while simultaneously knowing that it's not really true.

 

This dude just broke it all down, better than I could. 


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No...

 

 

NOW it's THE END!  

 

:bandit:

:rolleyes:


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Source? The trailer.  They are using Mass Effect Original Trilogy Era Milky Way technology and weapons.  That alone has monumentally contradicting implications.

 

 Big Sbip

 

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Hm...

 

The Omni Tool , the Carnifex hand weapon, the upgraded Mack seems about right (ie: "old tech").  FTL jump drive tech, Navigation, star system selection is new.

 

No contradictions found.



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This part.  this is what I agree with.

 

Only there were really four (i.e. refuse)

 

Or maybe there was just one.

 

Mutable fictional information, eh?



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This part.  this is what I agree with.

 

Only there were really four (i.e. refuse)

 

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I was referring to those that still want Shep and the Milky Way Galaxy


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