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[Sartoz]

Or one.

 

Mutable fictional information, eh?

 

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LOL!

 

Talk about total confusion!

[Sion1138]

                                                                 

Talk about total confusion!

 

What ever do you mean?

[NM_Che56]

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I was referring to those that still want Shep and the Milky Way Galaxy

 

 

ah..

 

[realguile]

Game was only just announced and people are just bitching while knowing nothing.

 

Good god man.

[Sion1138]

Game was only just announced and people are just bitching while knowing nothing.

 

Good god man.

 

They're bitching about the setting and premise, which they do know.

[NM_Che56]

Game was only just announced and people are just bitching while knowing nothing.

 

Good god man.

shhhhh

[NM_Che56]

Hey, man.. I can say I'm still open to the game, and simply confused on the new premise..

 

And the someone will start bitching at me too. It goes both ways. People on one side aren't warming up to the game. People on the other side get mad that others aren't immediately "falling in line" and start calling them whiners.

 

So yeah, "good god" indeed.

 

we barely have a premise.  we barely have A GAME! LOL

[Sion1138]

Hey, man.. I can say I'm still open to the game, and simply confused on the new premise..

 

And the someone will start bitching at me too. It goes both ways. People on one side aren't warming up to the game. People on the other side get mad that others aren't immediately "falling in line" and start calling them whiners.

 

So yeah, "good god" indeed.

 

Funnily enough, it's almost exclusively the latter side using terms like "F***er." and "drooling idiot" to describe their would-be opposition.

 

And that's just a sample from the last half hour or so.

[caradoc2000]

Personally, I think it is pretty much the only feasible approach to bypass as much of the original trilogy as possible.

[dreamgazer]

We have enough info to build some form of grasp on the setting, but not so much the "lore".

We know we're exploring the hostile environments of Andromeda, a new galaxy in a distant future timeline, but we don't know how or why we're there yet.

[Artemis_Entrari]

then: "I HATE THE ENDING"

now: "LETS STAY IN THE MILKY WAY AND DEAL WITH THE ENDING THAT I UTTERLY HATE!"
 

 

This oversimplifies things.  Just because someone hated the final 5% of the series (from about meeting the Starchild on), doesn't mean they want to ignore the 95% that came before it.

 

That's why people are upset about it no longer being set in the Milky Way.  Because the 95% of the series they did love is wiped clean.

[Maniccc]

It's funny that some people don't realize that the Jedi philosophy is just a paired down Buddhism.

[K-man21p]

with the lead writer of Halo 4 at the helm, don't count on this entry being any better

Oh hell no. You must be joking, right? Halo 4? We're fucked. Well and truly fucked, lads. Only solace I can take in that is that H5 will rock, and it's been looking that way for a long time now.

[Paridave]

To me, an Andromeda exploration simulator with magic-user TPS gameplay and a responsive choice and consequence system would sound good regardless.

 

Making it a Mass Effect game means injecting that game's setting and its brand of characters into the mix. 

 

In theory, it could be a lot of fun, but I'm still extremely skeptical towards how they'll bridge the gap from the Milky Way to the new galaxy. 

Since the game's to take place far into the future, the link will be tenuous at best.  Something like... oh, say, the N7 uniform is actually an historic piece that was worn by the protagonist's great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather / mother when he / she hyperlooped from the Milky Way to Andromeda.  This is going to be an exercise in denial, so I wouldn't expect much time to be spent on it... maybe a two minute cut scene where someone asks "what's the Milky Way?"

[Silvair]

 

how long was that trailer? Cuz I missed all of this...

Then you weren't watching it.

It showed a Mako, relatively standard issue N7 armor equivalent to Shepard's, modular colonizing structures akin to what we see all throughout the mass effect trilogy (Only this seems to be auto-erecting instead of the "linkable container" methods, though there's nothing saying the similar towers in the original ME's didn't construct in the same manner), and a few other details.  All the tech looks exactly the same.  Or even backwards.  Like why use a tire and tread Mako when ME2 introduced the gravlift vehicles that allow for better coverage of terrain?

 

 

So Hinduiism wouldn't clasify as a "true belief" for you because it's not based on actual historical figures? What about Christianity, as the bible is the only evidence of Jesus existing. Does it also not clasify as a "true belief" due to not having any historical evidence?
 

 

You say your source is the trailer, yet the Mako seems to be a more updated version, so the only thing would be the Carnifex. Are you saying that the use of older technology is a "plot hole"? How would that be classified as a "plot hole"?

As for your religion about Shepard aspect, there's nothing that can be said there until you clarify what counts as a "true belief". After you do that, we can get back to this talk about beliefs and religion and Shepard.

hinduism is based on historical figures (I think. Not really familiar with hinduism I may be confusing it with other religions).  Jesus Christ was an actual person in history, proven by historical experts and archaeologists, not just the bible.  They've even discerned what he really looked like.  It's his actual life events that are in question.

 

The Mako is still the tire and tread version, only seems to a variant model, but that's still suspicious considering even in the original ME trilogy the Mako was obsolete, so why use it so far in the future?  And yes, a specific model of pistol from the ME era as standard sidearm for elite soldiers thousands of years in the future is a huge plot hole.  Extremely suspicious.

 

As for Shepard and religion, all that matters is that everything was digitally recorded, so nothing can be in question.  Hence, no room for myth, no room for religion.  At least with say, Jesus, we don't actually KNOW what happened, so people are free to tell evolving stories throughout the generations.  With Shepard, however, you can just google "Shepard" on the extranet and get his full history, complete with video and audio files.

 

 

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Hm...

 

The Omni Tool , the Carnifex hand weapon, the upgraded Mack seems about right (ie: "old tech").  FTL jump drive tech, Navigation, star system selection is new.

 

No contradictions found.

You just listed the contradictions.  The Omni tool wouldn't be immediately recognizable as technology evolved, possibly not even in the same format anymore. Hell, even between ME1 and ME3 the omnitool was considerably upgraded, able to change shapes and make hard light constructs by the end. Carnifax was a specific brand of gun, wouldn't be in circulation anymore except as novelty "historical" replicas, certainly not as a sidearm for current military.  The Mako was made obsolete during the original trilogy, so seeing it here is just nonsensical.

 

 

This trailer points more towards NO time having passed since the original trilogy.  Or even having happened BEFORE or DURING the original trilogy.  Which raises the ever present questions of "How/Why are they way out in the andromeda?"

[Saul Iscariot]

They're bitching about the setting and premise, which they do know.

But speculating on for the most part. There is no definitive information on how this relates to ME3, beyond no one ending has been canonized. The intergalactic travel hasn't been explained, yet we have people saying that there is no way that the races of the Milky Way Galaxy could travel from one galaxy to another, because they don't think the Reapers could have without one of the endings in ME3 affecting those galaxies.

 

They've complained that the aesthetic looks of the characters we see and the technology is too familiar to the ME universe we've already experienced. Yet they have no idea how it will fit into the greater scheme of things. They've also complained about the staff and writers involved, despite knowing nothing of what is planned. I stopped posting here several years ago as it became impossible to talk with a lot of people as they'd closed their minds to any discussion. I am hoping that people aren't going to adamantly cling to their speculation as a reason to give Bioware another kicking before experiencing the new chapter properly.

[Giubba]

This oversimplifies things.  Just because someone hated the final 5% of the series (from about meeting the Starchild on), doesn't mean they want to ignore the 95% that came before it.

 

That's why people are upset about it no longer being set in the Milky Way.  Because the 95% of the series they did love is wiped clean.

 

Or maybe the ending psycotic breakdown that this palce suffered has NOTHING to do about the choice of setting the game in andromeda but simply it fullfill the need to create the premise for a new story arc without bothering with serious problem regarding the integration of choice that will not have any kind of significant impact in the new galaxy .

[dreamgazer]

Since the game's to take place far into the future, the link will be tenuous at best.  

Maybe, maybe not. Depends on how insistent these settlers are in preserving the legacy of the Milky Way's culture and politics.

[In Exile]

They're bitching about the setting and premise, which they do know.

Not really, given some of the complaints.

[Steelcan]

Maybe, maybe not. Depends on how insistent these settlers are in preserving the legacy of the Milky Way's culture and politics.

we're gonna get the same rehashed plots again most likely, synthetic conflict, genetic modification

 

hell we might even get a not!genophage

[Silvair]

what gets me the most, is the same thing I have against Star Wars.  When the eras are so far apart, why is the tech still EXACTLY THE SAME?

 

Even in the 2-3 year span of ME trilogy, technology improved and upgraded, from exploration vehicles (Mako replaced with that gravlift thing from 2), to Omni Tools (From wrist mounted smartphone to Omni Blades, Omni Shields, Drone Factory and Projectile Constructor and Launcher, etc), to ships (Difference between Normandy SR1 and SR2, then there's the upgrades you can get for the Normandy SR2 during ME2 which are then used as basis for upgrading the rest of the council and alliance ships).  And then humanity joining galactic community leapfrogged advancements and society with things like Medigel, which is part of why they were favored by the council so much.

What I'm getting at, is the tech difference should be more obvious with a thousand year time game.

 

It should be more like

 

Original Trilogy Tech

 

Andromeda Tech

 

that's if they are keeping the milky way tech.  But part of the other complaints are, as a whole other galaxy, shouldn't be entirely different tech, with NO basis on Milky Way tech?