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[In Exile]

You're wrong. Tech in human history often stagnated. Our recent period is somewhat unique.

[Gwydden]

This oversimplifies things. Just because someone hated the final 5% of the series (from about meeting the Starchild on), doesn't mean they want to ignore the 95% that came before it.

That's why people are upset about it no longer being set in the Milky Way. Because the 95% of the series they did love is wiped clean.

It had already been.

Shepard's story is over. The Normandy's over. The Reapers are over. We knew this was going to be the case even before ME3 came out.

Why is everyone acting surprised now?

[Hiemoth]

Or maybe the ending psycotic breakdown that this palce suffered has NOTHING to do about the choice of setting the game in andromeda but simply it fullfill the need to create the premise for a new story arc without bothering with serious problem regarding the integration of choice that will not have any kind of significant impact in the new galaxy .

 

I can't agree with this enough. Even if the endings hadn't been controversial, there were still many large decisions in ME3, such as are the Krogan Quarians or Geth around? And that is to just give one simply example of those consequences. To me the argument seems to be that how dare Bioware remain true to the Trilogy in making in it count so much in the galactic scale?

 

And yeah, this was basically the best way to approach and makes actually a lot of sense, if they are going with the Arc theory.

[Gwydden]

You're wrong. Tech in human history often stagnated. Our recent period is somewhat unique.

Not to mention settlers of a new galaxy likely have bigger concerns than technological advancement.

[Steelcan]

It had already been.

Shepard's story is over. The Normandy's over. The Reapers are over. We knew this was going to be the case even before ME3 came out.

Why is everyone acting surprised now?

Shepard's story is over, and now we need to move to an entirely new galaxy because the writers are either gutless or brianless

[Jehuty]

And there are Halo fans that are all in an uproar over ADS (Aim down sights) being added to their beloved shooter.  I mean UPSET.

 

Just more examples of how some people are so averse to change.

I welcome the change, along with thruster packs and such and I've been playing Halo since 2003.

 

I want change, I want the new ME to be different while keeping the things that makes Mass effect what it is. 

[Steelcan]

I welcome the change, along with thruster packs and such and I've been playing Halo since 2003.

and I think these changes should go light themselves on fire, sacrifice themselves to the Lord of Light, and resurrect the Halo gameplay that made the franchise unique

[Saul Iscariot]

Have you ever watched a documentary on how NASA plan to build accommodation for the first people sent to Mars? Because if you had you'd have seen their plans include mud and brick huts initially. With a  Mako it is arguable it would simply be easier to repair over a flying vehicle. Though this then opens the can of worms about how advanced the Andromeda party are in relation to the original trilogy.

[In Exile]

Not to mention settlers of a new galaxy likely have bigger concerns than technological advancement.

They may not even BE voluntary settlers. For all we know this is a colony ship in the Attican Traverse that found - through sheer fluke - some device that threw them into another galaxy.

Boom. Problem solved. Citadel wants a lovely PR colony mission with a bunch of groups cooperating (humans, asari, turians, volus, salarians,etc.), MacGuffin happens, and there you go.

[Paridave]

Maybe, maybe not. Depends on how insistent these settlers are in preserving the legacy of the Milky Way's culture and politics.

They're going to be as insistent as Bioware wants them to be, and no more: new galaxy, new rules, new lore, all uncluttered by nostalgia and memorabilia.

[Silvair]

It had already been.

Shepard's story is over. The Normandy's over. The Reapers are over. We knew this was going to be the case even before ME3 came out.

Why is everyone acting surprised now?

Because Council Space's story isn't over. The Milky Way's story isn't over. That's the problem here.  Shepard is just one man out of a galaxy.  There's so much else they still had to work with, it's a total waste to ditch it and start a new galaxy.

 

 

Have you ever watched a documentary on how NASA plan to build accommodation for the first people sent to Mars? Because if you had you'd have seen their plans include mud and brick huts initially. With a  Mako it is arguable it would simply be easier to repair over a flying vehicle. Though this then opens the can of worms about how advanced the Andromeda party are in relation to the original trilogy.

Exactly.  They are damned no matter which way they go with this, they wrote themselves into a corner. AGAIN.

[Malleficae]

But they might not ignore endings. There are pretty much the same. Green isn't canon, it was made to calm butthurts. Blue one could be metnioned as "Shepard took control over those assholes and took the away" and red one "Shepard destroyed those *******, lived through it and got drunk". c:

[Il Divo]

They're going to be as insistent as Bioware wants them to be, and no more: new galaxy, new rules, new lore, all uncluttered by nostalgia and memorabilia.

 

Another bright side with a new galaxy: the likelihood of unnecessary cameos drops substantially. 

[In Exile]

Because Council Space's story isn't over. The Milky Way's story isn't over. That's the problem here. Shepard is just one man out of a galaxy. There's so much else they still had to work with, it's a total waste to ditch it and start a new galaxy.

Citadel space has no story. Everything is resolved. They could invent new plot points. But theyre doing that one anyway.

And more to the point there's a LOT of lore stopping them from doing a good plot in the milky way. I mean this isn't a company that ever let their own lore stop them. But if you're going to critique them for not following the lore, at least be cognisant of it.

[Jehuty]

and I think these changes should go light themselves on fire, sacrifice themselves to the Lord of Light, and resurrect the Halo gameplay that made the franchise unique

And let Halo become CoD, not changing with each passing game? Change needs to happen to keep the games interesting. I like the idea of fast paced combat. What I'm hoping for MEA is that it's different from the other MEs in a good way. I want a new story, new characters and new settings, something fresh. 

[In Exile]

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[In Exile]

Then what? Do we discover the creators of this technology? I'd have a lot of misgivings about anyone more advanced than the Reapers. Or do we forget about them and move along to a different plot not tied to it?

Why wouldn't there be someone more advanced than the reapers? Especially if that someone came from the Andromeda Galaxy aeons ago, and just left a way for themselves to get back? This focus with the reapers being the pinnacle of technological achievement - which isn't even consistent to the lore to start with - is something I don't get.

The reapers plot is done. It was a stupid plot. It got worse every game. It was consistently the worst part of ME including in ME1.

[Saul Iscariot]

No Silvair they didn't. Just because I haven't put enough thought into why they are using a Mako doesn't mean that their isn't a valid consideration. I recall the poop-storm after ME3 and people said it made no sense. When I offered what I assumed happened I was told it was poppycock, yet 90% of what I assumed fell into line with the extended cut. At this point I wouldn't begin to second guess the story.

[DeathScepter]

David is a voice of reason


Think about what you've done BSN

 

 

for he is the Paragon of Our Kind for he is kind and true.

[Steelcan]

And let Halo become CoD, not changing with each passing game? Change needs to happen to keep the games interesting. I like the idea of fast paced combat. What I'm hoping for MEA is that it's different from the other MEs in a good way. I want a new story, new characters and new settings, something fresh. 

No its becoming CoD all on its own.

 

Change doesn't need to keep happening to keep games interesting.  Interesting storylines and likeable characters are.  ME shouldn't try to sell itself on its gameplay, it should sell itself on characters and plots.

 

But now we know that the ME writers are either too incompetent to write a story in their own damn universe or too gutless to try and stick to their own guns with the endings

[dreamgazer]

They're going to be as insistent as Bioware wants them to be, and no more: new galaxy, new rules, new lore, all uncluttered by nostalgia and memorabilia.

 

Considering they've already stated that "familiar faces" and "nods to the trilogy" are part of this new game, I'm not sure of how accurate this is.

[Steelcan]

Why wouldn't there be someone more advanced than the reapers? Especially if that someone came from the Andromeda Galaxy aeons ago, and just left a way for themselves to get back? This focus with the reapers being the pinnacle of technological achievement - which isn't even consistent to the lore to start with - is something I don't get.

The reapers plot is done. It was a stupid plot. It got worse every game. It was consistently the worst part of ME including in ME1.

just what the series needs, even more scale escalation

 

[Gwydden]

Because Council Space's story isn't over. The Milky Way's story isn't over. That's the problem here. Shepard is just one man out of a galaxy. There's so much else they still had to work with, it's a total waste to ditch it and start a new galaxy.

Sorry to tell you this, but it is. There wasn't that much left in the Milky Way, storywise, certainly not enough to justify messing with the ending.

And Shepard is just one man? That's funny. Because Shepard was always the axis around which the entire galaxy turned, a Mary Sue of epic proportions. That's alright, it was part of the fun.

MEA is not a sequel. It's not a continuation. It's a spin-off, a soft reboot. It had absolutely no need and no obligation to address anything about the trilogy. That's over, and you should think about letting it go.

Do you really think BioWare can spin a plot out of an overused galaxy that has very little narrative strength left to it? You want then to deal with the ending? You either desperately want to ****** at them or you really overestimate their talent.