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[Akrabra]

Hudson and Walters are gone, are they not? Anyway Walters is a damn excellent character writer as far as i recall, so doesn't have to be negative.

[dreamgazer]

Only Voyager. DS9 focused on things more, if anything.

Why couldn't ME:A do similar things as DS9, exactly?
 

But Voyager always had the lingering hope they'd just get back home. It wasn't a new beginning to anything..... they were flying back the whole time. Not flying away.

Why couldn't Andromeda be a long "journey" towards colonization in hopes of returning to the Milky Way one day? That could actually be an interesting conflict among the folks there.

[dreamgazer]

Hudson and Walters are gone, are they not? Anyway Walters is a damn excellent character writer as far as i recall, so doesn't have to be negative.

Hudson, yes. Walters, no.

[Gwydden]

Comparing ME3 an DA2 isn't really fare. DA2 was not a finished product. Too many reused assets, too few locations. ME3 was good, but it was absolutely rushed and not finished the way it should have been.

Not quite my point. Those games were both poorly received by fans because 1) they were rushed and 2) they tried to deviate from the Bioware formula and do something different story-wise but failed miserably.

[The Arbiter]

Not quite my point. Those games were both poorly received by fans because 1) they were rushed and 2) they tried to deviate from the Bioware formula and do something different story-wise but failed miserably.

Dude where's Sarah Kerrigan?

[Akrabra]

Dude where's Sarah Kerrigan?

Fighting the Hybrid race? Or eating Mengsk corpse.

[Gwydden]

Yeah, it's Narrative Director or some new title. It sounds like the equivalent of a loremaster. Not sure.. heh

I think it's Creative Director. I may be wrong, but I believe the title is not specifically about story. That's what the lead writer (who I don't know so I will reserve judgment) is for.

[Gwydden]

Dude where's Sarah Kerrigan?

Not sure if just a joke or you're trying to make some sort of point... xD

[Iakus]

I did say most. And Walters isn't a writer anymore, if I understand correctly.

He's the "Creative Director"

 

So yeah, organic energy and such

[Giubba]

Not quite my point. Those games were both poorly received by fans because 1) they were rushed and 2) they tried to deviate from the Bioware formula and do something different story-wise but failed miserably.

 

ME3 rushed?What?

[dreamgazer]

Because DS9 had excursions to the Klingon world more than ever before, Earth more than ever, etc.. It had gigantic multi-arc plots and wars with all the known civilizations involved... it had old characters becoming even more important than before (O'Brian and Worf).. It's just not reboot like at all. Or even removed from TNG in a loose sense.

Do you think Andromeda will only be made of a handful of people? If it's a colonization effort, they're going to have substantial numbers of representatives of most major species, especially if they've had time to repopulate. It'll depend entirely on how BioWare decides to handle the individual cultures and politics: they might take a different approach and evolve what everyone's about, or they might make an effort to preserve the pillars of their individual civilizations, which will achieve the same effect you're describing with DS9.

DS9 is still highly separated from the core setting and sports its own narrative ecosystem, though, with an almost entirely different cast ... aside from a few "familiar faces".

But I agree: neither are reboots.

[Gwydden]

He's the "Creative Director"

So yeah, organic energy and such

Not saying I'm happy about that, but I think people tend to forget his other work in the trilogy since the very beginning. He screwed up big, but that was once. If he does it again, you can count me a hater!

[dreamgazer]

He's the "Creative Director"
 
So yeah, organic energy and such

*cough* "The cipher is the very essence of being a Prothean." *cough*

[Iakus]

Well, comics get total galaxy reboots from time to time. 

 

 

I think maybe Mac is showing his comic book pedigree here by relying on it.

I'd buy a game centered on a Crisis Event that forces a rewrite to Mass Effect's timeline...

[tevix]

What about a BSG style reboot?  That the original is history, but loosely so.  Lot of details left out, but enough so that you're not pretending it doesn't exist.

[Nohvarr]

It's not that separated. It's right next to Bajor and Cardassian space. It's only seperated from Earth... but the show goes to Earth more than any other Trek. 

 

It's premise is still about the same old concerns... about integrating Bajor into the Federation. It's not some brand new setting. 

 

 

I don't know why you're pushing this. I've met you halfway with Voyager. 

......did we watch the same series?

 

 

That would never be allowed to happen on TNG....

[Rannik]

I'm assuming everything about the last leak is correct, if it's not I'll very happily stand corrected.
 

Why are people pissed they are ignoring the Old trilogy?

Because the "Old Trilogy" effectively is Mass Effect, unlike the space western nonsense they showed yesterday.
 

Do people want them to try and canonize an ending?

Yes, why not? If your illusion of choice forces you to make drastic writing decisions just ditch it when necessary

 

Bioware has done this a countless times already, are people pretending they didn't realize or something? Should I be mad at zombie Leliana too?

 

Or try to work with the mess that was ME3's finale?

Sure, if they had pulled it off I'd be genuinely impressed.
 

This is better. Fresh characters, setting with the same familiar races and universe we love.

I didn't see the universe I love, at all, I saw canned sci-fi with a touch of Firefly.

I saw silly jepacks and a painfully generic Halo aesthetic instead of the near future familiar atmosphere Mass Effect had.
I didn't see the well stabilished (but ultimately unknown for us) Milky Way society at work but a bunch of random desolated planets.
I didn't see the citadel or the many hallmarks of well estabilished civilations but a "new frontier" that will surely be composed of pretty but lifeless and boring landmasses like Inquisition.
I didn't see the "humans as a yet another newcomer" but the old "Wild West in space" trope, I liked Firefly too but that does not mean I want everything to be Firefly, I want Firefly to be Firefly and Mass Effect to be Mass Effect.

 

I'd take a real reboot (as in: the trilogy didn't exist, humans are about to find the Charon Relay) over this nonsense in the blink of an eye.

[Nohvarr]

That's just because it's war. And Sisko is a different captain than Picard. It doesn't mean it's a new setting.

 

Janeway is pretty ruthless too.

It does show a significant difference between the series and it involves a lot more than their respective commanding officers. Look at the crew, the fact it's set on a station and not a starship, the fact that a major war takes up the majority of it's later season and you will begin to notice just HOW different DS9 is from the other trek series.

 

[Gwydden]

I didn't see the "humans as a yet another newcomer" but the old "Wild West in space" trope, I get that people liked Firefly, I liked it too but that does not mean I want everything to be Firefly, I want Firefly to be Firefly and Mass Effect to be...

Star Trek?

Now I've seen everything. People actually believe the trilogy was original or anything more than a space opera medley.