But the canon was done outside of Bioware, Bioware themselves don't want to do a canon
Of course not. Then they'd actually have to be held accountable for their decisions. Better and easier just to scrap the series and start over somewhere else, right?
Is that really all Mass Effect is to you? 'Rules'? Not history, people, places? The fact that it felt like a living place?
No. Mass Effect is, to me, a wonderful set of games with a subpar ending at the end with a strong protagonist that I came to recognize as unique to me based on the playthrough I went through, a cast of wonderful characters I came to care about, and a galaxy I loved to explore.
But the rules of the mass effect universe does mean it's impossible to step away from those characters I have grown close to. This upcoming game is going to be set in the far future, so I know I won't be seeing Garrus, Tali or Shepard again, and there's nothing wrong with that. There'll be a new and improved Mako, which I approve of, I won't be on the Normandy, which just means I'll get to enjoy a new ship. There will be new characters that I will either grow to love or hate, and a new story for me to judge based on the quality of the writing and how well it works in the Mass Effect universe.
If Bioware wants to expand on the Mass Effect universe, I have no problem with that. New characters, a new protagonist, and new places to explore. What will make it a Mass Effect game or not is its ability to stay within the rules of the Mass Effect universe, with the mass effect drives and fields, use of dark energy in biotics, element zero.
This game will be an expansion of what's already there, and one that won't have to deal with the baggage except what we the gamers bring with us, much like KOTOR was an expansion of the Star Wars universe, even though we never met Yoda, a Skywalker, flew the Millennium Falcon or that stuff, but it explored the planets, kept to the rules set by Star Wars in how its universe works, and because it separated itself from the movies, it was open to a whole new level of potential content that Bioware and LucasArts could work with.
I'm not saying it's a good idea or a bad idea, but one I can see the logic behind after the fiasco of the ending of ME3, and I'm willing to wait for more information before I pass judgment on whether it'll work or not.
Oh I see what happened.....
Mac latched onto this line after the Thessia mission.
"I see... well... arrangements have to be made for continuity of civilization." from the Asari Councilor.
So they gathered the finest in the galaxy, all specimens of all the races into several arks, guarded by fleets of several races that didn't participate in the final battle, and put everyone into cryosleep, and traveled the vastness of space to Andromeda. The jouirney took 600 years. Their VIs woke them up when they arrived to begin exploration. Upon arrival they found blueprints for new drives to power their space ships so that they could travel from cluster to cluster wihout mass relays in an archive buried beneath the surface of one of the planets they landed on. This was left behind by a race that mysteriously vanished several thousand years ago. Voila! See I can ass pull as well as Mac Walters. Hire me Bioware!
Of course not. Then they'd actually have to be held accountable for their decisions. Better and easier just to scrap the series and start over somewhere else, right?
Dramatic much?
ME:A is still part of the ME series regardless of it not being apart of the Trilogy or the Milky Way
Sure about that?
Personally, the introduction of time-travel to this series would be even worse than the introduction of the idea that we can get to Andromeda.
Nah. Hardly different.
As a tool it's way more powerful and it can be done well.
I think the fact that they're starting with a clean slate in a new galaxy is a tacit admission that the ending to the trilogy was unsustainable and bad, and that they painted themselves into a corner.
I'm open-mindedly pessimistic about the quality of MEA. I don't expect much, but I'll allow myself to be pleasantly surprised.
Oh I see what happened.....
Mac latched onto this line after the Thessia mission.
"I see... well... arrangements have to be made for continuity of civilization." from the Asari Councilor.
So they gathered the finest in the galaxy, all specimens of all the races into several arks, guarded by fleets of several races that didn't participate in the final battle, and put everyone into cryosleep, and traveled the vastness of space to Andromeda. The jouirney took 600 years. Their VIs woke them up when they arrived to begin exploration. Upon arrival they found blueprints for new drives to power their space ships so that they could travel from cluster to cluster wihout mass relays in an archive buried beneath the surface of one of the planets they landed on. This was left behind by a race that mysteriously vanished several thousand years ago. Voila! See I can ass pull as well as Mac Walters. Hire me Bioware!
Bravo! The schlock continues!
Dramatic much?
ME:A is still part of the ME series regardless of it not being apart of the Trilogy or the Milky Way
Not the same characters, locations, events, technology, storyline... Hmm. Yup. Really concise and whole series, not at all a desperate attempt to milk what money we have left from the IP.
I'm, personally, quite the opposite. This is my ideal situation. It takes everything I loved about Mass Effect and removes everything I didn't. Giving us a fresh untouched playground with which to explore it.
Don't get me wrong, I love Shepard and his/her story while I was in it. It was ultimately very limiting given the vast scope of the galaxy. Stifling, actually.
Moving to a completely new galaxy feels very small-minded considering how big the Milky Way actually is, and it still leaves the whole endings thing hanging over a huge chunk of the ME universe, i.e. the bits that actually make us like it.
WIth a change like that it would really have been easier to create a brand new setting altogether. If all you've got that's familiar are some characters from existing races, biotics (which exist more for gameplay reasons than anything else) and general other ME tech (again mostly just being things needed to make the setting work rather than define it) then all you've actually got is a completely different setting with a Mass Effect skin on it.
Very disappointed. I didn't want a return to the existing characters (it's time for someone else's story even though I love them dearly) but this is throwing out far too much that makes the MEU what it is.
Not the same characters, locations, events, technology, storyline... Hmm. Yup. Really concise and whole series, not at all a desperate attempt to milk what money we have left from the IP.
Doesn't need the same characters
Doesn't need the same locations
Technology? The people from the Milky Way are obviously gonna have tech from there 
Did you really just say storyline, when storylines should always be different?
Nah. Hardly different.
As a tool it's way more powerful
and it can be done well.
And then Bioware had no problem putting him and his canonized backstory literally everywhere in SWTOR, which implies they agree..
I'm, personally, quite the opposite. This is my ideal situation. It takes everything I loved about Mass Effect and removes everything I didn't. Giving us a fresh untouched playground with which to explore it.
Don't get me wrong, I love Shepard and his/her story while I was in it. It was ultimately very limiting given the vast scope of the galaxy. Stifling, actually.
Well, this is a breath of fresh air. Someone who isn't bashing on something that we don't know anything about.
Nice. 
Incredibly different.
Dude jumps interstellar distances in seconds at the press of a button.
No limits man.
I thought all it implied was that Bio doesn't control that IP.
Are you implying that Lucas Arts came by and said "you have to put this Revan guy in your game, 23847923482 times" during the writing process?
I'm not going to say that's not true because we don't know... but it seems unlikely to say the least.
Oh I see what happened.....
Mac latched onto this line after the Thessia mission.
"I see... well... arrangements have to be made for continuity of civilization." from the Asari Councilor.
So they gathered the finest in the galaxy, all specimens of all the races into several arks, guarded by fleets of several races that didn't participate in the final battle, and put everyone into cryosleep, and traveled the vastness of space to Andromeda. The jouirney took 600 years. Their VIs woke them up when they arrived to begin exploration. Upon arrival they found blueprints for new drives to power their space ships so that they could travel from cluster to cluster wihout mass relays in an archive buried beneath the surface of one of the planets they landed on. This was left behind by a race that mysteriously vanished several thousand years ago. Voila! See I can ass pull as well as Mac Walters. Hire me Bioware!
Did you copy and paste this from the Ark Theory thread? That's the idea they've been revolving around for over a year now.
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Well, this is a breath of fresh air. Someone who isn't bashing on something that we don't know anything about.
Nice.
He just called the last galaxy stifling. How is that not bashing. Then he says this new game is taking everything he loves and removing everything he didn't. Yet you say we don't anything about this game.
Everyone is pissing on something or someone, one way or another. 
Are you implying that Lucas Arts came by and said "you have to put this Revan guy in your game, 23847923482 times" during the writing process?
I'm not going to say that's not true because we don't know, but it seems unlikely to say the least.
Okay, but how often has this tactic worked for Bioware in the past? With BG no one cared likely because they had a much smaller reputation, BG's plot and characters were pretty much non-existent, and there wasn't the same level of anticipation (BG2 was a self-contained story).
Far as I'm aware, Bioware's canonized decisions with TOR haven't exactly been lauded. Everything regarding Revan has been pretty much ripped apart from what I've seen. Now add on the ME3 ending controversy to whatever layer of canon Bioware decides to implement.
There may be precedent for Bioware using canon in the past. What we don't have is a precedent for Bioware's canon generating a positive reception, quite the opposite.
Well, this is a breath of fresh air. Someone who isn't bashing on something that we don't know anything about.
This particular person expressing his/her opinion on something that we don't know anything about is more legitimate than the rest because I agree.
Reasoning, how does it work?
I'm open-mindedly pessimistic about the quality of MEA. I don't expect much, but I'll allow myself to be pleasantly surprised.
I like you. That's my philosophy to life. Or as Garrus would put it:
"I like to expect the worst. There's a small chance I'll be pleasantly surprised."
Highly, highly debatable. Time-travel narratives are almost always full of significant, story-breaking plot holes.
I assume they wouldn't do it that badly.
Plus, it's a cost-benefit thing. Maybe there would be a few plot-holes but you'd get a prequel and sequel at the same time. You'd get to see and potentially take part in all the pivotal moments of Mass Effect history, and you'd get to explore the divergent futures, all without having to canonize anything whatsoever.
Is that really all Mass Effect is to you? 'Rules'? Not history, people, places? The fact that it felt like a living place?
How well do you know me? We live on the same planet, we are of the same species and share a common history. Yet, outside of here, our lives are independent of one another. It is possible to tell two tales in the same universe and have nothing in common. You can create a 'living place' without having to be set in the same locations, with the same people, and whatever history we experienced.
They're not going to completely ignore a full game in the series, nor would I and many others want them to.
Talk like that really isn't helpful.
You asked. I answered. Not my fault you didn't find my answer "helpful"
This particular person expressing his/her opinion on something that we don't know anything about is more legitimate than the rest because I agree.
Reasoning, how does it work?
They are optimistic rather than bashing for the sake of bashing.
Don't like the endings? Join the club. Instantly call this game a fail or say it's not a Mass Effect game because it takes place outside the galaxy and doesn't include the characters we came to love? That's where the logic goes belly-up for me.
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They are optimistic rather than bashing for the sake of bashing.
Don't like the endings? Join the club. Instantly call this game a fail or say it's not a Mass Effect game because it takes place outside the galaxy and doesn't include the characters we came to love? That's where the logic goes belly-up for me.
It's not about the characters we love. I don't care at least. I think they closed their stories well enough.
It's about trillions of other people and civilization itself. A whole setting.
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