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[Lady Artifice]

This particular person expressing his/her opinion on something that we don't know anything about is more legitimate than the rest because I agree.



Reasoning, how does it work?

With context, usually. The person Dragonflight was quoting had more to say about the previous Mass Effect games than about their assumptions for this one. Disapproving of this decision to change galaxies is understandable, but we're seeing a lot of outrage. Some of it starts to seem over dramatic after a while.

[dreamgazer]

 

Dude jumps interstellar distances in seconds at the press of a button.

 

No limits man.

 

Even if that were a real-time representation of travel in ME:A, there's a big difference between accelerated travel and bending back the fabric of time.  

 

I assume they wouldn't do it that badly.

 

Considering some of the better novelists and screenwriters in Hollywood can't even do it without significant plot holes, I don't know why you arrived at that assumption. 

[Dr. Rush]

Just to ask, I'm sorry, i don't follow all the ark theory details. But why would Bioware need a canon ending if the ark left before the ending of ME3? The survivors on the ark don't know what happened in the Milky Way and its possible they don't have the means to communicate from Andromeda back to Milky Way. So the game can honor your ending without ever acknowledging it, right?

 

This probably isn't even the right thread for that question, but I see it being discussed. I guess I feel like this is the most logical way to solve this problem. 

[Kappa Neko]

Now I REALLY wish IT was canon and Bioware pulled the biggest bluff in gaming history and made ME4 the actual conclusion.

The destroy ending could have been canon, the others a "fail" (indoctrination/death) and the opening would have been Shepard waking up on the battlefield. War still raging. And then Bioware could have delivered the ending the trilogy deserved: a united galaxy kicking reaper butts without committing genocide and generally getting a raw deal. Hell, they could have fixed it in an epic DLC if they went to so much trouble with an extended cut icing on a pile of crap. But they were too proud. They preferred torching their franchise and asking us to pretend the ending bullshit never happened.

 

 

(Edit: and that's coming from somebody who never really hated the catalyst until now. I had my IT headcanon and that way the ending was actually good enough for me. Underwhelming but "fine". If ME3 had been the end of Mass Effect, I would have been ok with that. But now that they are going to make millions by ignoring their fuckup, I feel a little bitter, I gotta say.)

[Booth]

The topic is just a wrong assumption. If human are in Andromeda the old trilogy is NOT fully ignored, cause the old trilogy shows the future of our earth. Any human who is over there has to be a descendant and therefor must somehow has historic information on what happened in "old trilogy".

 

In other words: Only if human are not part of ME-Andromeda than it would fully ignore the first trilogy.

[Il Divo]

 

 

 

Even if that were a real-time representation of travel in ME:A, there's a big difference between accelerated travel and bending back the fabric of time.  

 

 

Considering some of the better novelists and screenwriters in Hollywood can't even do it without significant plot holes, I don't know why you arrived at that assumption. 

 

 

We just got to call Amy Hennig. She managed to pull it off with Legacy of Kain....12 years ago. 

[dreamgazer]

You asked.  I answered.  Not my fault you didn't find my answer "helpful"

 

Sure it is, when you posit something that unreasonable.

[In Exile]

We just got to call Amy Hennig. She managed to pull it off with Legacy of Kain....12 years ago. 

 

 

That was a brilliant game. 

[dreamgazer]

We just got to call Amy Hennig. She managed to pull it off with Legacy of Kain....12 years ago. 

 

Still a few there, too.

[Il Divo]

 

That was a brilliant game. 

 

Was my first ever Xbox game, along with Halo: CE. I've had a bromance with Simon Templeman ever since. 

[Iakus]

Sure, it is, when you posit something that unreasonable.

I stated an opinion.  Sorry it was the wrong opinion.

[Iakus]

I think many people are projecting that drama. "You just need to get over Shepard!" "You're not gonna see your waifu again. Get over it." 

 

I don't even hear people saying they want that. I'm sure there out there, but it's not the dominant voice.

HEck I was more than ready for Shepard's story to end with ME3

 

I just didn't want the entire freaking GALAXY's story to end too.

[In Exile]

Was my first ever Xbox game, along with Halo: CE. I've had a bromance with Simon Templeman ever since. 

 

Maybe he can voice the dude PC. One can hope. 

[Il Divo]

Maybe he can voice the dude PC. One can hope. 

 

And then Michael Bell can voice Raziel!....or the Fem PC. 

[RZIBARA]

Oh shut up already. 

 

whats up your bum?

[dreamgazer]

I stated an opinion.  Sorry it was the wrong opinion.

 

 

You're forgiven.

[Sion1138]

 

 

 

Even if that were a real-time representation of travel in ME:A, there's a big difference between accelerated travel and bending back the fabric of time.  

 

Don't see it.

 

I mean, even faster than light travel is practically impossible but we have it. And it's explained by an 'element' that somehow lowers the mass of things. To zero presumably.

 

That is monumental bull if you want to pick it apart.

 

Time travel is not much worse.

[In Exile]

Don't see it.

 

I mean, even faster than light travel is practically impossible but we have it. And it's explained by an 'element' that somehow lowers the mass of things. To zero presumably.

 

That is monumental bull if you want to pick it apart.

 

Time travel is not much worse.

 

An element that's, again, a neutron. That's basically like saying we found magic helium that breaks the known laws of physics. ME science is gibberish. 

[Sion1138]

An element that's, again, a neutron. That's basically like saying we found magic helium that breaks the known laws of physics. ME science is gibberish. 

 

Yeah. So time travel is perfectly acceptable within that sort of universe.

 

You don't have to overdo it. Just make it a one off thing.

[In Exile]

ME science is gibberish... but they still set some guidelines for their gibberish. Once that's set up, it's bad form to break from it too much. Like if they changed the whole nature of FTL drives, you wouldn't hear the end of it.

 

You can't really have guidelines for the nonsense gibberish they invent. Let's take Quarian immunology, for example. The entire thing is the product of comical ignorance of biology. Sure, they tried to have rules for it, but they're unknowable without having the same kind of ignorance as the writer of the subject matter. 

 

I might think the implications from their gibberish are X, because I have some passing knowledge of physics.

You might think the implications from their gibberish are N, because you have substantially more knowledge.

And they might think the implications from their gibberish are W, because they some middling level of knowledge but are unknowingly confused about some very important but subtle point.

[dreamgazer]

An element that's, again, a neutron. That's basically like saying we found magic helium that breaks the known laws of physics. ME science is gibberish. 

 

It is, but that doesn't mean there isn't a significant difference between going fast and going backwards.

 

Yeah. So time travel is perfectly acceptable within that sort of universe.

 

You'll have to show you work on that 1:1. 

[Dr. Rush]

I mean, people flipped out hard over the thermal clips gibberish. People will flip out over anything they feel justified flipping out over, no matter how trivial. 

[In Exile]

It is, but that doesn't mean there isn't a significant difference between going fast and going backwards.

 

You also can't revive the dead, but that didn't stop ME2. And like I said, there's a significant difference between allergies and a collapsed immune system - they are oftentimes the product of actually contrary mechanics (at least at a high level) - but that didn't stop ME1-3 from butchering immunology. 

It's part for the course for the series.