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[KaiserShep]

No, it makes it one of the worst, and the worst for a sequel(something that takes place after). 

Yes they are.

They are getting rid of all relations with the races other than "We're friendly enough to ride to a new galaxy together". 

They are getting rid of all the planets and the lore connected to them. 

They are ripping some of the lore apart to even get us to a new galaxy. 

 

This is pretty premature. Maybe you shouldn't be so convinced that everything is oh-so terrible until we learn more about the game.

 

guys if this keeps up I will have to give David a like

 

Maker, think of the children.

[elrofrost]

Guys, I liked the original trilogy too, and I loved the characters. But ME3 ended bad. Yeah they could canonize destroy (the best ending), but that would anger alot of people too. This is the best route, lets just get a fresh take on ME. Hopefully a more personal story too.

Or they could do all 3 (the "screw you" ending could not be done).

 

Look ME wasn't just about the endings. The characters are loved. Why BW released Citadel in the first place. Frankly, I can't believe ME 1,2 & 3 won't at least get a mention. Let us import a game and take the ending from there. If it's so far into the future it won't matter much. Anything can be explained away.

 

But this is like going to see the 3rd version of Superman in the theaters. I hate reboots. They might as well change the name and say "inspired by ME".

[herkles]

I want the ending in the game so I can ****** about how they addressed or didn't address things in there. this means I should be able to ****** if the game includes quarians, because I could kill them, same with geth, and everyone(as I chose refuse)  I should also be part cyborg because of synsthesis , and I should ****** about all of that because in another game, I chose destroy and I chose to save both the geth and quarians. I want to ****** about everything! 

[In Exile]

No, it makes it one of the worst, and the worst for a sequel(something that takes place after).
Yes they are.
They are getting rid of all relations with the races other than "We're friendly enough to ride to a new galaxy together".
They are getting rid of all the planets and the lore connected to them.
They are ripping some of the lore apart to even get us to a new galaxy.

You're still not showing me the negatives. And the races in ME were on more cordial terms than all modern human nations. That's super friendly.

Everything outside of the races existing wasn't worth very much and didn't have much of a focus in the lore. What dominated the lore was garbage like Cerberus. And good riddance to that plot.

[In Exile]

No, it makes it one of the worst, and the worst for a sequel(something that takes place after).
Yes they are.
They are getting rid of all relations with the races other than "We're friendly enough to ride to a new galaxy together".
They are getting rid of all the planets and the lore connected to them.
They are ripping some of the lore apart to even get us to a new galaxy.

You're still not showing me the negatives. And the races in ME were on more cordial terms than all modern human nations. That's super friendly.

Everything outside of the races existing wasn't worth very much and didn't have much of a focus in the lore. What dominated the lore was garbage like Cerberus. And good riddance to that plot.

[Steelcan]

You're still not showing me the negatives. And the races in ME were on more cordial terms than all modern human nations. That's super friendly.

Everything outside of the races existing wasn't worth very much and didn't have much of a focus in the lore. What dominated the lore was garbage like Cerberus. And good riddance to that plot.

you say that, just wait for Cerberus to follow us to Andromeda

[Harbinger1975]

Eh, just like Dragon Age Inquisition, this franchise will be utterly destroyed (not like it already hasn't) with this "new rendition".  You can only milk the cow so much.

[KaiserShep]

you say that, just wait for Cerberus to follow us to Andromeda

 

Cerberus? But the organization died in the battle of Anadius!

 

It got better.

[geth47]

I agree with JediSaint.

 

The milky way after the ending has not much room for a new game or new series.

 

Denial/Refuse: All the major species died. Simply unacceptable and depressing setting. Impossible in good conscious to even think about starting from this premise. 

 

Fusion: Just imagine how weird it would be to see everyone with mechanical implants and fluorescent skin. Bad. Bad idea.

 

Destroy: No geth nor synthetics of any kind? So boring. 

 

Control: Well, it would be hard to make a convincingly enough threat. Because you know, there is this powerful entity watchdog that holds control over the reapers called shepard that can easily obliterate... 

 

 

If they really wanted to continue the series, they should not have offered ending that shatter the reality of the galaxy in such an intense way. But since they did, moving to andromeda seems like a reasonable choice. 

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

I don't care that Shepard is dead. I don't care that Shepard is dead. I don't care that Shepard is dead.

 

What I care about is the rest of the galaxy. Mac and Casey torched the franchise with that sh*tty ending. Let's admit it people, it was crap. They had to write two DLCs to justify it,  lead us on by the nose with the multiplayer contests and other trolling just to get us to buy the Omega and Citadel DLCs.

 

Mike Gamble said "Bioware takes our choices seriously."

 

How can they take our choices seriously and canonize one ending, ignoring 40% of the fan base? How can they canonize a myriad of choices in the galaxy: cured genophage, didn't cure genophage; killed geth, killed quarians, made peace; that kind of stuff without angering the people who didn't do what they pick?

 

ME3 was the elephant in the room. There are two ways: sweep the entire trilogy under the rug and pretend it never happened in the first place, which nullifies all of Drew's and Mac's work; OR move to another galaxy. They chose the latter. I'll call this a weasel. Which reminds me I need to change my signature.

[KaiserShep]

Eh, just like Dragon Age Inquisition, this franchise will be utterly destroyed (not like it already hasn't) with this "new rendition".  You can only milk the cow so much.

 

Heh, will be? Considering the explosive bellyaching that went on in this forum, you'd think that it already was. 

[In Exile]

you say that, just wait for Cerberus to follow us to Andromeda

Don't you even joke about that one.

[KaiserShep]

 Which reminds me I need to change my signature.

I recommend:

 

Mass Effect: Weasel. The metareapers harvest our money! 

[United Servo Academy Choir]

Don't you even joke about that one.

 

It's probably inevitable.

[Lady Artifice]

I'm just excited. I get why people are attached to what was before, but the only way I deal with my feelings about the ME3 ending is with liberal head canon. I'm fine with my head canon, and I'm ready to move on to something different.

 

Besides, I don't really want my next ME PC buckling under Shepard's shadow. 

[In Exile]

I don't care that Shepard is dead. I don't care that Shepard is dead. I don't care that Shepard is dead.

What I care about is the rest of the galaxy. Mac and Casey torched the franchise with that sh*tty ending. Let's admit it people, it was crap. They had to write two DLCs to justify it, lead us on by the nose with the multiplayer contests and other trolling just to get us to buy the Omega and Citadel DLCs.

Mike Gamble said "Bioware takes our choices seriously."

How can they take our choices seriously and canonize one ending, ignoring 40% of the fan base? How can they canonize a myriad of choices in the galaxy: cured genophage, didn't cure genophage; killed geth, killed quarians, made peace; that kind of stuff without angering the people who didn't do what they pick?

ME3 was the elephant in the room. There are two ways: sweep the entire trilogy under the rug and pretend it never happened in the first place, which nullifies all of Drew's and Mac's work; OR move to another galaxy. They chose the latter. I'll call this a weasel. Which reminds me I need to change my signature.

Moving to another galaxy totally nullified all their work. It reduces all the games to a footnote. Which is a good thing, mind you, but it's not that much more respectful.

[Warden Commander Aeducan]

Frankly, I'm glad that they decide to stay away from that clusterfuck that called "Mass Effect 3 ending", even with Extended Cut it couldn't solve all the plot holes. I rather have a fresh beginning than they canonize destory and makes other states meaningless.

[Steelcan]

Don't you even joke about that one.

I'm being serious, we are gonna need human mooks to shoot and not feel bad about

[Hanako Ikezawa]

you say that, just wait for Cerberus to follow us to Andromeda

With Mac Walters, the man who turned them from a minor side quest organization into what they are now, as the Creative Director, I have no doubts they will show up. "Cerberus is an idea. Ideas are not so easily destroyed." after all. 

[Ashevajak]

Is there any other series where the ending was so bad, and the writers so inept that rather than try and work with the setting, they throw up their hands say "screw it" and move to a new galaxy?

If they're gonna just abandon the entire Milky Way, then there was no reason not to change the endings entirely. And of they want to claim artistic integrity they shouldn't have abandoned ship.

 

Lost wrote themselves so badly into a corner they invented a parallel universe to get out of the problem.

 

I kinda briefly entertained they might do the same for the next ME...parallel universe where the Protheans defeated the Reapers (at great cost to themselves, practically wiping themselves out in the process) in order to "reboot" the galaxy to  a near-ME1 state and start from there.  I mean, if you're not going to own the consequences of your ending, you might as well go whole hog and declare the whole thing never happened in the first place, right?

[geth47]

No, it makes it one of the worst, and the worst for a sequel(something that takes place after). 

Yes they are.

They are getting rid of all relations with the races other than "We're friendly enough to ride to a new galaxy together". 

They are getting rid of all the planets and the lore connected to them. 

They are ripping some of the lore apart to even get us to a new galaxy. 

 

Worst?

 

How is that?

 

They won´t even touch on the relationships between races as done in  the trilogy. By a matter of urgency, necessity, they will work together. it´s quite possible for individuals from groups that don´t get along to work together. 

 

Nothing has been denied and nothing has been erased nor imposed. 

 

Nothing was ripped apart. Everything was left alone in a way that is respectful to all the possible plays. 

 

In the same sense that when voyager was the only star trek television series (after tng and ds9 ended) the alpha quadrant was not denied, nor the federation erased, nor the klingons destroyed or the romulans removed from canon.

 

I really don´t know what´s the beef you people have with a side-story taking place for enough away in order not to conflict with decisions that could have ended in very different ways. And how you people are so hurt that you accuse the people in charge of getting rid of this and that and ripping everything apart. 

 

Take a deep breath. 

[United Servo Academy Choir]

With Mac Walters, the man who turned them from a minor side quest organization into what they are now, as the Creative Director, I have no doubts they will show up. "Cerberus is an idea. Ideas are not so easily destroyed." after all. 

 

Liked, but don't actually like, but still like.

[In Exile]

With Mac Walters, the man who turned them from a minor side quest organization into what they are now, as the Creative Director, I have no doubts they will show up. "Cerberus is an idea. Ideas are not so easily destroyed." after all. 

I don't think the idea of Cerberus is bad. Just the execution. 

[Steelcan]

I don't think the idea of Cerberus is bad. Just the execution. 

with the lead writer of Halo 4 at the helm, don't count on this entry being any better

[Lady Artifice]

Liked, but don't actually like, but still like.

 

Sounds like how I feel about Cerberus' role in the story.