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Why are people pissed they are ignoring the Old trilogy?


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Oh. Thank you.

 

I don't know how I feel about that to be completely honest.

 

One thing I did hear about is that they'll be establishing back-story in comic form, to tie into the films. I do hope that's hogwash.

 

Nope, they released a new comic about a month or so ago.  You know, about Han's wife..  Oh you thought I meant Leia? Think again!


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It's amazing what the thought of EVEN MORE MONEY can do to a series.

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From a profile view they almost always seem to have a simpsons style overbite and forehead, so when I see Femshep from the side it just looks like this to me
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The neck aint too far off of femshep, either.


Dunno. Maybe you just need more practice. It's not that hard in my opinion.

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same reason people still cry about the warden not coming back /shrug



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same reason people still cry about the warden not coming back /shrug

 

Yes, continuity. Changing the protagonist in each Dragon Age game has been to the series detriment so there's no reason to believe the same won't be true of Mass Effect. The Star Wars prequels where bad enough but imagine the reaction if Lucas had set them in another Galaxy? As I said, people like continuity and for good reason.


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They want continuity. And that's reasonable, really.

 

Me? I don't much care for that thought when the last taste I've had of Mass Effect was... mediocre.

 

Plus, have never been fond of Shepard. Or Reapers.



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Yes, hence my point about such decisions being a power ****** fantasy, and a really bad design decision.


OK. I just want us to be clear that this isn't an ME3 ending problem, it's an ME probkem.

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Yes, continuity. Changing the protagonist in each Dragon Age game has been to the series detriment so there's no reason to believe the same won't be true of Mass Effect. The Star Wars prequels where bad enough but imagine the reaction if Lucas had set them in another Galaxy? As I said, people like continuity and for good reason.

 

I honestly don't see how changing the protagonist in each game has been to the detriment of the series. Anyone who really has a problem with it should have seen it coming since Origins, since you could, after all, kill your protagonist without it being a what-if ending that ended up being ignored in an imported world state like ME2 Shepard.

As for the Star Wars prequels, the problems with those films go far far deeper than changing characters and settings. 


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Shepard had his own arc, fighting the Reapers, that covered three games.

 

The Warden's story was fighting the Darkspawn. Since that was done with after Awakening, there really isn't much need for them to return. People need to learn to let go.


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I don't care if Shepard returns or not. The part I'm upset about is how they threw everything out the window. 

 

Since people brought up Dragon Age, it'd be like if DA4 was on an entirely different continent than Thedas. 


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I don't care if Shepard returns or not. The part I'm upset about is how they threw everything out the window. 

 

Since people brought up Dragon Age, it'd be like if DA4 was on an entirely different continent than Thedas. 

 

Did Thedas have an ending that caused 3 Galaxy changing variables?



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I don't care if Shepard returns or not. The part I'm upset about is how they threw everything out the window. 

 

Since people brought up Dragon Age, it'd be like if DA4 was on an entirely different continent than Thedas. 

Exactly

 

 

Did Thedas have an ending that caused 3 Galaxy changing variables?

Doesn't matter.  Its still a fully galaxy that's unexplored.

 

Sides, the "variables" only went through the active relays.  So all the INACTIVE ones probably didn't transit the RGB wave.  And even then, they could simply ignore the ME3 endings by having it unofficially take place before the ME3 ending, in an area untouched by reapers as of yet, where they don't even have to bring UP the reaper war.

 

 

 

 

Although back to if they canonized the ending, I think Control (Paragon) would be the canon ending, if only because that's the only feasible way to get the Relays fixed in time that everyone doesn't starve out in the Sol system, with the krogan eating everyone lol.



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Yes, continuity. Changing the protagonist in each Dragon Age game has been to the series detriment so there's no reason to believe the same won't be true of Mass Effect. The Star Wars prequels where bad enough but imagine the reaction if Lucas had set them in another Galaxy? As I said, people like continuity and for good reason.

 

There is continuity, just not in the characters, lol... Because the game isn't about Shepard and friends... It's like complaining that Thorin's company isn't in TLotR.


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Exactly

 

 

Doesn't matter.  Its still a fully galaxy that's unexplored.

 

Sides, the "variables" only went through the active relays.  So all the INACTIVE ones probably didn't transit the RGB wave.  And even then, they could simply ignore the ME3 endings by having it unofficially take place before the ME3 ending, in an area untouched by reapers as of yet, where they don't even have to bring UP the reaper war.

You can't have familiar races and just not bring up the Reaper war going on if it was going to take place after the Reapers already arrive in the MW. Would have to be pre-ME3 if anything. As for Crucible wave, ending cinematics showed that it covered the entire galaxy stretching tens of thousands of light years from each relay. Would be rather silly to handwave it as "only worked on few systems".



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Since people brought up Dragon Age, it'd be like if DA4 was on an entirely different continent than Thedas. 

This wouldn't really be the same thing though. Presumably, the same exact races could exist on that other continent, since this is, after all, the same world, not to mention that seafaring people already exist in the period of the DAverse. While it's probably too soon to move out of Thedas, I don't see the problem with actually doing so eventually. It would introduce us to new cultures and new backdrops. I'm kinda tired of Ferelden and Orlais and am glad to be out of there in the next title. 



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If they introduced a new continent in Dragon Age, I would be quite interested, since that'll open up other plot possibilities. As Dragon Age is not about specific people, they could pull that off, but it would seem more like a spin-off. However, if it is still the same planet, then it could still work.

 

Whatever they do with Andromeda, the next game could be back in the Milky Way if people really care, they'd just have to come up with a reason why the Reapers are gone, since it wouldn't make sense for Reapers to be remade after they were destroyed.

 

I think others have mentioned it before, but it does remind me of Stargate, and them going to another galaxy was not so strange. I don't see how it is strange now. They want a completely alien frontier to explore, and the Milky Way is pretty explored, even if it is not explored by the Citadel races, there are other nations/empires/whatever that go all over the Milky Way already.



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What if the story in Andromeda is really about getting back to the milky way?
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Mass Effect, for me, is the setting, Shepard, was/is a character in the setting, i grew attached to all my incarnations of him/her an all the companions in his/her's incursion in the setting but the setting continues and i for one am eager to meet new ppl an have new relationships and adventures.

 

Hopefully it is the start of a new trilogy and not just a one of story



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Doesn't matter.  Its still a fully galaxy that's unexplored.

 

Sides, the "variables" only went through the active relays.  So all the INACTIVE ones probably didn't transit the RGB wave.  And even then, they could simply ignore the ME3 endings by having it unofficially take place before the ME3 ending, in an area untouched by reapers as of yet, where they don't even have to bring UP the reaper war.

 

The waves affected the entire Galaxy, saying it only affect same would be the worst handwave and made the whole thing pointless



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I really can't see them continuing in the Milky Way unless they make the Destruction canon or make Shepard the villain or victim of the villain if Control is made canon.

 

A united galaxy could not stand against the Reapers, and with Shepard being able to patrol the whole galaxy with an invincible armada of super intelligent beings... well, not much can happen other than reporting all villainous behavior for Shepard to mop up. Unless the super cops are removed, there would be little chaos except from those who would protest Shepard's power.

 

Or just have it in the far future where the Reapers are gone. Why and how they would be "gone," I'm not sure, maybe Shepard decides to shut down and destroy the Reapers in the future for some reason.



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The waves affected the entire Galaxy, saying it only affect same would be the worst handwave and made the whole thing pointless

eye for an eye, since ME3 was almost nothing BUT handwaves, way I see it.

 

 

I really can't see them continuing in the Milky Way unless they make the Destruction canon or make Shepard the villain or victim of the villain if Control is made canon.

 

A united galaxy could not stand against the Reapers, and with Shepard being able to patrol the whole galaxy with an invincible armada of super intelligent beings... well, not much can happen other than reporting all villainous behavior for Shepard to mop up. Unless the super cops are removed, there would be little chaos except from those who would protest Shepard's power.

 

Or just have it in the far future where the Reapers are gone. Why and how they would be "gone," I'm not sure, maybe Shepard decides to shut down and destroy the Reapers in the future for some reason.

I was about to say lol. You could just not show them, and leave it ambiguous whether ReaperShep left, or the Destroy ending was taken.

Only show rare krogan, leaving it up in the air if the genophage was cured, or if you are just happening to not encounter many.

For Quarians and Geth, show a new type, who seems to be a blend of both, leaving it ambiguous if this is just an updated Geth model, or Quarians fully merged with geth as in reconciling the war, or if its just what Quarians look like without their suits.

Im all for retconning the edited stock photo of Tali lol.  I feel more like that's her punking Shep.

 

 



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I can't imagine Shepard getting punked by the photo unless he has a serious helmet fetish and refuses to let her take it off, in which case it's not like he'd care what's under there anyway.



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Well, Humans do have a larger role now in Galactic Society because of Shepard. But then? I don't think any race or anyone intelligent enough would be going against the Council again (Like Batarians in ME:Galaxy). And how would that work? Punch some diplomats, kill their mercenaries, Mission complete...

 -Plus, why would anyone want to turn against each other since "all of them together defeated the Reapers" ?

 

2-Again, why? N7 is a symbol of respect(again because of Shepard) in Post-ME Reaper War Universe.

 

3-The Devs said themselves. They made ME Trilogy Galaxy like it was already 100% explored with all those Clusters and Systems uncovered from Horizon to Illium and back to Earth. They are even working on a "minor" scale Map to sense that there is much yet left to explore

 

4-And IDK... Seeing as the Reapers were the only enemies in the whole trilogy, and all the havoc and Indocrination and bla bla, you can't really imagine anything worse than the Reapers, except for something that would look like the Reapers with the same reasons of the Reapers and thus, it would become Reaper Clones.

 

 

With regards to #1 and #2 above, without meaning to sound sarcastic but, have you met the human race?  Have you never watched the news?  People are ALWAYS finding reasons to go to war with one another.  Everyone was all "hey, we stopped the axis of evil" after World War 2 as well.  Has that prevented countries from targeting the US and/or England?  Magnify that by 100 when you factor in we're talking about different species, who all have their own desires and plays for power, and I'm not sure why it's so hard to imagine why these problems would arise years after the events of ME3.

 

With regards to #4, I think you misunderstood me.  I'm saying, why does an enemy have to be as powerful as the Reapers?  They could come up with an enemy who isn't as physically powerful as the Reapers, but who is a massive threat nontheless.  Example, a group like Cerberus.  They couldn't match the Reapers firepower for firepower, but they were just as much of a threat to peace in their own way as the Reapers.  And no, I'm not suggesting Cerberus be that threat.  They're just an example of an antagonist that was a big threat to galaxy-wide stability, without being as powerful as the Reapers.



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I don't care if Shepard returns or not. The part I'm upset about is how they threw everything out the window. 

 

Since people brought up Dragon Age, it'd be like if DA4 was on an entirely different continent than Thedas. 

Or a different planet entirely. 


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We are bringing democracy to Andromeda guys come on! It'll be fun slaughtering locals