Can't we just wait to judge the Andromeda on it's own merits? If it simply improves on the ME3's combat and has a story that doesn't turn into complete nonsense in the last ten minutes, it'll be a pretty cracking good game.
If it was a brand new IP, sure.
But this is a Mass Effect game. And right off the bat we're seeing the lore turned into a pretzel yet again.
right off the bat we're seeing the lore turned into a pretzel yet again.
How so?
And yet they are still touching the endings, just with the name of the game: Mass Effect: Andromeda.
It's painfully obvious why the game is exiled from the Milky Way.
Personally, I'm fairly pleased with the idea of a new galaxy, there should be lots of things to find -- new species, new galaxies, new governments. We're outsiders, you can imagine how others will feel about those "Milky Way Invaders."
Problem is justification. No race had the ability to travel to other galaxies.
I do suppose there's possibilities.
- Finding a new cache of Prothean data for traveling dark space that was never completed before the Reaper invasion.
- Similar to the above, but rather than Prothean data, it's a data cache from race from the other Galaxy who went to explore Milky Way. That or even their own type of relay that was sitting in the Milky Way.
- Private groups funding dark matter study. There is two years and six months of available time to work with of stuff not happening. The two years between ME1 to ME2. As well as the six months between ME2 to ME3. Perhaps a business is funding N7 to test dark matter energy and colonize new galaxies?
Civilizations were executed every 50,000 years, it's possible that sense both Shepard both them time, two years and six month extra, and even defeated the Reapers, perhaps there was a technological break through.
"Your civilization is based on the technology of the mass relay, our technology. By using it, your society develops along the paths we desire." - Soverign
It could be that the needed 50,000 years was set in stone as efficient time period of advanced enough for harvesting, but not advanced enough to leave the galaxy. Beating that 50,000 allows for further advancement.
Because they got tired of the mounting world-state variations?
I suspect this was also a factor as well. Imagine a version of ME3 with a great ending but with all the same variables. I can't say the idea of launching off that point works all that well for a story without either insanely high production costs, a non-sensical narrative, or accusations that none of our decisions matter...which happened enough in ME2 and 3.
How so?
Intergalactic travel.
Because they got tired of the mounting world-state variations?
Don't need to leave the galaxy to stop that.
The cure for space magic is not more space magic.
The cure for space magic is not more space magic.
Alright stop it already. You don't even know how they get to Andromeda yet.
I suspect this was also a factor as well. Imagine a version of ME3 with a great ending but with all the same variables.
Alright stop it already. You don't even know how they get to Andromeda yet.
undoubtedly through some serious handwaving/blatant disregard for lore/or some nasty combination of the two
If it's set in the future further than the original trilogy as the blog post claims the intergalactic travel thing isn't lore breaking. It's just future tech.
If it's set in the future further than the original trilogy as the blog post claims the intergalactic travel thing isn't lore breaking. It's just future tech.
Right but if I'm understanding it correctly: while it's set in the future, the intergalactic travel which gets us to Andromeda occurs concurrently with ME3.
Personally, it doesn't bother me either way: I'm treating this as an alternate universe, gonna hand wave the lore on this one, and hope it's worth the ride.
Don't need to leave the galaxy to stop that.
undoubtedly through some serious handwaving/blatant disregard for lore/or some nasty combination of the two
I'm all for it taking place in another galaxy, I just hope this teaches Bioware (I'm looking at you Mac Walters) a huge lesson in why they shouldn't have screwed up in ME3. Not getting into a debate about the endings, but think about it, this is exactly the reason they made the game take place in a new galaxy, because they knew at the end of the day when ME3 was released, they dun goofed up.
If they hadn't we could see Omega, Citadel again, heck even learn more about the Keepers, and learn about races before the Protheans.
They do if they want to respect choices. I prefer jumping ahead into a future Milky Way and chalking up a unified end-state to time and vague history, but they'd have to do something about the stacking variables regardless of the ending.
How is this respecting choices? How is space magic fixed with more of it? Teleport to a formerly out-of-reach setting with a wave of the hand, leaving behind untold possible stories because Bioware didn't think, and now is too proud to go back and correct things? That's respecting choice?
"Your civilization is based on the technology of the mass relay, our technology. By using it, your society develops along the paths we desire." - Soverign
It could be that the needed 50,000 years was set in stone as efficient time period of advanced enough for harvesting, but not advanced enough to leave the galaxy. Beating that 50,000 allows for further advancement.
Protheans were far more advanced than the ME Universe's 'modern' civilizations.
A wild wormhole appears.
How many chevrons does it have?
Or are we going with something a little more...classic?
Right but if I'm understanding it correctly: while it's set in the future, the intergalactic travel which gets us to Andromeda occurs concurrently with ME3.
Personally, it doesn't bother me either way: I'm treating this as an alternate universe, gonna hand wave the lore on this one, and hope it's worth the ride.
If it occurs concurrently with ME3 and we somehow end up in the future as a result it's probably experimental tech which didn't work as intended, which isn't necessarily lore breaking to be fair.
If it was a brand new IP, sure.
But this is a Mass Effect game. And right off the bat we're seeing the lore turned into a pretzel yet again.
The only thing that bothers me the most is the Mako returning. I definitely did not want to see that thing make a comeback.... Oh well.
How is this respecting choices? How is space magic fixed with more of it? Teleport to a formerly out-of-reach setting with a wave of the hand, leaving behind untold possible stories because Bioware didn't think, and now is too proud to go back and correct things? That's respecting choice?
To be dead honest, I don't think correcting things is the best option here. Ignoring whether or not an ME sequel was a good idea to begin with, Bioware's options are:
A) What we have here
Retcon to the universe as of the ME1 starting point, but where the Reapers never existed
C) Acknowledge one ending as canon storyline
D) Try some sort of import.
E) A prequel
F) Advance the time line so far ahead that we won't even recognize the technology along with the races/characters.
This to me is a classic case of pick your poison.
If it occurs concurrently with ME3 and we somehow end up in the future as a result it's probably experimental tech which didn't work as intended, which isn't necessarily lore breaking to be fair.
Sounds like standard Sci-fi 
How is this respecting choices?
How is space magic fixed with more of it?
Teleport to a formerly out-of-reach setting with a wave of the hand, leaving behind untold possible stories because Bioware didn't think, and now is too proud to go back and correct things?
Their pride will have to go back to decisions made in ME1, if that's the case. The significant variation started there (remember the human-only council nonsense?), and exacerbated throughout the series long before the final choice.
I still wanna know how they thought was gonna work in the first place lol
I still wanna know how they thought was gonna work in the first place lol
Hope dies last and all that. I do find it funny some times how people often attribute the import function performing below expectations as a result of EA influence, much like everything else. Creating a story with variables is difficult enough on its own from a budget and writing stand point. I can't imagine pulling that off effectively across an entire trilogy.
From what I've heard, much as people love CDPR, they haven't done any better in this regard.
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