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[The Arbiter]

While I'm pleased the setting is so detatched from the previous game that I could potentially forget Mass Effect 3 even happened it also means accepting that my favourite Mass Effect species/factions, the Quarians and the Geth, will probably not be present due to the vastly different setting, time skip, and need to account for the possibility that they are extinct. Didn't the leak state that there was a vote on what speces would return and they didn't make the list? And this seems to confirm many of the things it rumoured.

 

I'm still struggling with that, honestly. If they remove my favourite species and there are no familiar locations or faces then will it really feel like a Mass Effect game to me?

Don't worry they will replace Tali with... a tentacle monster

[rashie]

Agreed, its the best way forward simply setting it in a place were they don't have to deal with the ME3 ending, that trilogy climax is one of the worst cases of painting yourself into a corner if you want more games in the same setting I have ever seen.

[Guanxii]

It's not the best way to move the series forward though is it, honestly? Ruin the original setting with torrid writing and then throw it in the bin. It's going to be 10 years before BioWare and the fanbase realise what was lost.

[The Arbiter]

It's not the best way to move the series forward though is it, honestly? Ruin the original setting with torrid writing and then throw it in the bin. It's going to be 10 years before BioWare and the fanbase realise what was lost.

nope we already know what was lost the moment that starbrat showed up. There's nothing we can do now.

[katamuro]

It's not the best way to move the series forward though is it, honestly? Ruin the original setting with torrid writing and then throw it in the bin. It's going to be 10 years before BioWare and the fanbase realise what was lost.

 

Some of us already realise it,I hoped ME would become like star wars, something every person knows just because its so good it took off with movies, books, comics and other stuff, something huge and with a million stories to tell. Alas, they cut it off. ME universe could have been a treasure trove, political thrillers, brave action heroes saving people from pirates, underworld stories featuring Aria, frontier stories on some human colony...

It could have been so much, but because some people cocked up at the end of ME3 we will not have it, at least not for years, they might make a sequel to ME3 but only after this game comes and then a few more years pass, so at least 2020 if not 202+. 

[In Exile]

Some of us already realise it,I hoped ME would become like star wars, something every person knows just because its so good it took off with movies, books, comics and other stuff, something huge and with a million stories to tell. Alas, they cut it off. ME universe could have been a treasure trove, political thrillers, brave action heroes saving people from pirates, underworld stories featuring Aria, frontier stories on some human colony...
It could have been so much, but because some people cocked up at the end of ME3 we will not have it, at least not for years, they might make a sequel to ME3 but only after this game comes and then a few more years pass, so at least 2020 if not 202+.

I don't think I'd ever cite the SW EU as something to aspire to as a medium. I mean, aside from those 3 Thrawn books, everything was just goddawful. The quality of the SW EU was mostly a running joke.

ME was never going to work out with a follow-up once they picked 'reaper genocide' as the plot for ME3.

[Kmaru]

Why are we keep talking about Mass Effect trilogy with Shepard. This seems to be something new.

Why don't we think it as a new game, new world, new rules.

 

Instead about being excited about what BIOWARE is delivering with the trailer. Being excited about exploring a new galaxy. Being excited about a new story, some are complaining already when it was clear from the begenning that we won't have Shepard and related anywhere near this New Project.

 

Andromeda seems to be really exciting to explore with companions, i hope they will be not just soldiers, but scientifics that will be like kids openning a xmas gift when they will discover new spicies. 

[The Arbiter]

Why are we keep talking about Mass Effect trilogy with Shepard. This seems to be something new.

Why don't we think it as a new game, new world, new rules.

 

Instead about being excited about what BIOWARE is delivering with the trailer. Being excited about exploring a new galaxy. Being excited about a new story, some are complaining already when it was clear from the begenning that we won't have Shepard and related anywhere near this New Project.

 

Andromeda seems to be really exciting to explore with companions, i hope they will be not just soldiers, but scientifics that will be like kids openning a xmas gift when they will discover new spicies. 

BECAUSE the past games is the reason why this TITLE exist. It's the foundation, this new MASS EFFECT ANDROMEDA halabaloo wouldn't exist if it weren't for the past writers and Shepard + crew including the Milkyway

[ShadesX1]

I love all the issues pointed out and yet I'm still simply pissed off that despite it being a NEW Mass Effect we are once again relegated to being human. It's an alien universe maybe I wanted to be a damn Krogan, an Asari, a GETH, SOMETHING! But not a damn human again, having the CHOICE is good but where dragon age inquisition improved was the return of different races and backgrounds as well as the inclusion of Qunari. Is Mass Effect, Dragon Age? NO but it would be more fun to be able to NOT be human again.

[Ieldra]

I think what's important is.... how the hell they jump from one galaxy to another. I mean, is there a inter-galactic relay or something... .... ... crossing 2.5 million light-years is a genuine feat...

The first intergalactic story I read, way back in the 1970s, featured giant jump gates powered by the energy of stars, made by an ancient civilization whose technology the protagonists eventually understand. No intergalactic story ever since has captured the grandeur of that vision...

[TruthSerum]

This creates so many problems as well. The Reapers would've already traveled to the Andromeda galaxy millions of years ago, and since intergalactic travel has now been confirmed, the logical conclusion is that there must be Reapers in the Andromeda galaxy. A hyper-advanced machine race (AI) will always seek to optimize its efficiency in an effort to eliminate any chance of failiure. 

 

They have existed for millions of years. Expanding their crop fields would increase their harvesting potential, and since their mission was to harvest organic life in an effort to preserve it, it only makes sense that they would expand their operations.

 

I don't think my concerns are irrational.

 

 

No no no. Your theory is swiss cheese. There are just as many if not more reasons why the Reapers would NOT be there. 

 

 ME fans are something else. I've never seen anything like it. It's like (GAME OF THRONES SPOILER ALERT) you're saying "Why did Ned Stark get his head chopped off when he could have just ran away?" or "Why were they able to blow up the Death Star? The exhaust port should have been better shielded?" 

 

Because that's not what happened and that's not how the story went.  That's why. People have the ability and the right to tell their own stories. 

[Arcian]

I'm not here to toss insults your way or call you whiners. I don't think you are, at least for the most part.
 
 
Look.....what the hell were they suppose to do? I understand that everyone has their own preference on how they want the Mass Effect franchise to continue. Lord knows I'll be praying to the gods that this new game will be the start of a new trilogy. But I'm also a realist in the sense that they definitely wrote themselves into a wall, thanks to how Mass Effect 3 ended, and no matter what they did it was gonna upset off a part of the fanbase.
 
If they made a prequel, they'd upset people who didn't want a prequel and wanted the series to move forward.
If they made a sequel and canonized an ending, they'd upset the people who didn't choose that ending.
If they tried to combine all three endings it would've been a mess 
If they tried to handwave the ending by setting the game hundreds if not thousands of years into the future, they'd still have to address the endings in some form. These were galactic, culturally impacting choices. You cannot handwave that, and if you do, then players are gonna complain that they did.

You're forgetting the best option they had - ignoring the endings and basing the sequel on the sole premise of the Reapers having been defeated in a non-specific manner.
 

Their best option was to bring the series to another galaxy. It's true we won't get to see the Citadel, Omega, or any of the familiar places of Mass Effect again. But in it's place we'll have a brand new setting to explore and fall in love with.

But we were already in love with the Milky Way. BioWare ripping her away from us is no different than forcing someone to break up with the person they already loved so they could be with someone they've never even met.
 

Remember despite how primitive the gameplay was in Mass Effect 1, we enjoyed it because we were being introduced to a universe and lore that we would eventually fall in love with?

Don't you remember this:
-cut-
 
 
Do you want to recapture that feeling again?
 
We will be exploring unknown territories, new races, new cultures, lore, technology, etc.

More than 99% of the Milky Way remained unexplored by the end of the original trilogy. We already have a galaxy FULL of undiscovered territories, races, cultures, lore and technology. BioWare abandoned all that because they couldn't give up on and de-canonify the endings. Not to mention we will never see Mass Relays again. They were THE most iconic piece of technology in the entire franchise.
 

If you're upset that we won't see the Milky Way again, I understand. But I encourage you to give Andromeda a chance here. It was the best option for the writers to take in a bad situation. And it opens up so many possibilities. If I haven't convinced you yet, then all I can say is at least wait until we get more info on the game.

It doesn't matter what they do. BioWare has ruined the Mass Effect franchise forever, all thanks to those goddamn endings.

[Mathias]

You're forgetting the best option they had - ignoring the endings and basing the sequel on the sole premise of the Reapers having been defeated in a non-specific manner.
 

 

You're not being realistic, and that seems to be a problem with a lot of people who can't accept they're moving away from the Milky Way.

[Arcian]

You're not being realistic, and that seems to be a problem with a lot of people who can't accept they're moving away from the Milky Way.

How is ignoring the ME3 ending clusterf**k any less realistic than keeping them in and being forced to abandon the established setting of the franchise?

[RiptideX1090]

Look, no, I'm sorry, but they can't ignore the endings, even in this.

 

I mean, our characters are either going to all be cyborgs or they aren't, right? That isn't something you can just gloss over. Either synthesis is canon, we all ended up cybernetic regardless of choice, or they never touch on it at all, which... I don't know, that just seems silly. If everything is partly synthetic now, that feels like something they're going to have to address in some fashion, otherwise just pretending they can never bring it up is like... I don't even know a good metaphor, honestly.

 

I don't know, maybe Andromeda will be a breath of fresh air and it'll be good. I'm not going to pretend I'm not going to keep up with it or that I'm not interested in more Mass Effect. I ****** love Mass Effect, it's why I'm here. I'm just having such a hard time wrapping my head around all of this.

[Iakus]

Why are we keep talking about Mass Effect trilogy with Shepard. This seems to be something new.

Why don't we think it as a new game, new world, new rules.

 

New game and new world is fine.  

 

If this was a brand new IP.  FIne, the old rules don't apply. But this is still a Mass Effect game.  WHich means certain rules are still in play.  Rules Andromeda seems to be completely ignoring i their scramble to escape the endings without admitting to screwing up.

 

 

 

Instead about being excited about what BIOWARE is delivering with the trailer. Being excited about exploring a new galaxy. Being excited about a new story, some are complaining already when it was clear from the begenning that we won't have Shepard and related anywhere near this New Project.

 

Why should I be excited about exploring a new galaxy when we never truly got around to exploring the Milky Way?  ANd we haven't a clue what this new story is, the trailer didn't tell us sh*t about that.  Just a lot of bad@sses acting bad@ssful.  Was that a Mass Effect trailer or a Destiny trailer?

 

 

Andromeda seems to be really exciting to explore with companions, i hope they will be not just soldiers, but scientifics that will be like kids openning a xmas gift when they will discover new spicies.

 

There will be companions?

[Iakus]

Look, no, I'm sorry, but they can't ignore the endings, even in this.

 

Just the name "Andromeda" shows the endings can't be ignored.  After all, why are we in Andromeda to begin with?  Because the Milky Way got trashed by ME3's ending to the point where exile is (apparently) the only answer.

[Vazgen]

Just the name "Andromeda" shows the endings can't be ignored.  After all, why are we in Andromeda to begin with?  Because the Milky Way got trashed by ME3's ending to the point where exile is (apparently) the only answer.

Uhm, I'm sure there will be some explanation as for why the game takes place in Andromeda. And that explanation will not be "Because the Milky Way got trashed by ME3's ending to the point where exile is (apparently) the only answer."

[Iakus]

Uhm, I'm sure there will be some explanation as for why the game takes place in Andromeda. And that explanation will not be "Because the Milky Way got trashed by ME3's ending to the point where exile is (apparently) the only answer."

 

Yeah, the Lazarus Project "only being a matter of resources" instills me with such confidence.

 

/sarcasm

[RiptideX1090]

Uhm, I'm sure there will be some explanation as for why the game takes place in Andromeda. And that explanation will not be "Because the Milky Way got trashed by ME3's ending to the point where exile is (apparently) the only answer."

Well, I'm sure they'll never say that, yeah. But if the effect is the same in the end, where that setting we explored before is gone, does it really matter?

 

I don't know, guys. Maybe it won't be as bad as all that. As it is, though, I have to say I'm not feeling a lot of inspired confidence. I wish we weren't a year and a half away. It's probably going to be a LONG time before we get anything substantial to talk about again. Maybe not even until next E3?

[RiptideX1090]

Well, there's lots of great games coming out in the meantime. So there's that.

 

Silver linings, and all that.

[Vazgen]

Yeah, the Lazarus Project "only being a matter of resources" instills me with such confidence.

 

/sarcasm

Of course it doesn't. But it doesn't mean that the move to Andromeda will be explained in a similar way. They might as well give an elaborate and logical explanation while staying true to the lore. 

 

Well, I'm sure they'll never say that, yeah. But if the effect is the same in the end, where that setting we explored before is gone, does it really matter?

 

I don't know, guys. Maybe it won't be as bad as all that. As it is, though, I have to say I'm not feeling a lot of inspired confidence. I wish we weren't a year and a half away. It's probably going to be a LONG time before we get anything substantial to talk about again. Maybe not even until next E3?

The setting we explored before was gone between ME1 and ME2. We explored totally different locations in ME2, even the Citadel was different. Didn't stop ME2 from being praised as the best of the trilogy (as baffling as I think it is). Sure, we stayed in the Milky Way but the effect is the same - completely different locations, new squadmates, new enemies and even new goals.