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SP is all drama. Just put something out and focus on the MP Bioware.


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AlanC9

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We have no idea how much and what kind of resources Collectors really have and where they're located. In ME2 we just wiped out one base and one ship, that's all.


EDI's dialogue on the Collector Cruiser where she tells Shepard that this is the particular ship which attacked the SR-1 doesn't make much sense unless the Collectors have more than one of the ships. So there have to be more Collectors than we blew up.

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Actually - if you think about it, some aspects of MP don't make much sense relative to SP - particularly the enemy types.

The collectors were presumably wiped out in ME2, so their presence in ME3 MP is questionable. Fighting Cerberus post Cronos has similar issues. Late in the SP campaign, the geth could be your allies, though I suppose there may still be some pockets of enemy geth. Reaper enemies make sense throughout ME3, but not before.

Nothing says they were wiped out, and the descriptor for the DLC that included the Collector faction states they were brought in by Harbinger on "black arks".

Chronos is basically just before the end of the war anyway. Even still, I don't think it is unreasonable that their forces would still be fighting wherever they happened to be stationed at the time. It's not like Cerberus is a state actor that declares war or surrenders formally through a legal process. Presumably, they are just still following the last orders they received, or could even still be receiving orders from TIM, given that he doesn't die until the last 10 minutes of the game.

Geth can be either Reaper allies as before Rannoch, or geth platforms animated by Reaper code/software after if you recruit the geth. The latter explanation is stated by the asari councilor directly after the mission if you broker a ceasefire, I imagine to explain their presence in multiplayer regardless.



#278
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Does the ME trilogy entail a continuation at all? Bioware seems to be digging itself a hole by trying to continue something which seemed to be finished to all its extent.


I don't see how this is true. Shepard's story is over, sure, but so what? The hole comes from preserving the choices Shepard made when we're not playing Shepard anymore, but this may be the only way to satisfy fans, (We're idiots, after all.)


Also, the lack of interest in Multiplayer by a part of the playerbase is a shame, especially considering how successful ME3MP was.


If ME3MP was a success without us, I figure MEAMP will get along fine without us too.

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EDI's dialogue on the Collector Cruiser where she tells Shepard that this is the particular ship which attacked the SR-1 doesn't make much sense unless the Collectors have more than one of the ships.

 

I'm not sure I follow. Maybe I just don't remember that dialogue perfectly. Could you elaborate what you mean?

 

I thought the point in the scene was that everyone assumed they'd have more than one ship, and then they are surprised to find out that it's the same ship. So at that moment they (and we, the players) simply don't know whether they have only one or more ships, but based on that dialogue, it's entirely concievable they only have one that's made contact with other species.



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Does the ME trilogy entail a continuation at all? Bioware seems to be digging itself a hole by trying to continue something which seemed to be finished to all its extent.

Also, the lack of interest in Multiplayer by a part of the playerbase is a shame, especially considering how successful ME3MP was.

 

It can't be anywhere as deep a hole as trying to account for and inevitably fail at getting all the major story choices to be reflected in the new game. 

 

As for the lack of interest in multiplayer, that's just how it goes. Social gaming isn't for everyone and never will be. If it was a success in spite of that, then no biggie then. 

 

The Mutiplayer can take place in almost anywhere, at almost any given moment in the ME canon. We don't need to move to Andromeda.

That being said, taking place in Andromeda presents very few risks for the Multiplayer. The same is unlikely to be the case of Singleplayer.

 

 
Well sure, when there's no narrative to speak of and no real concern for the context of the battle, you can go anywhere and do anything because why not? No one's going to really pay attention to that sort of thing anyway. It's the same kind of freedom of wearing a crap-stained t-shirt at the laundromat because no one cares what you wear there so long as you're not nude. No one thinks about fighting Cerberus on earth, which makes about as much sense as the space hamster being the Catalyst, because whatever arena fighting. 


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It can't be anywhere as deep a hole as trying to account for and inevitably fail at getting all the major story choices to be reflected in the new game. 

 

I still mourn losing Anderson as a council member.


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I still mourn losing Anderson as a council member.


Alas, that's the doing of one of Karpyshyn's novels, though it makes enough sense considering his aggravated attitude about the gig in ME2 (let alone the Reapers invading).

#283
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No way in hell, bucko.


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If I'm wrong go right ahead and correct but me but I've seen a lot people say that they don't like that multiplayer affected single player but even if you don't play multiplayer ever can't you still get the highest ems possible by doing side quests and stuff to get the best ending?

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If I'm wrong go right ahead and correct but me but I've seen a lot people say that they don't like that multiplayer affected single player but even if you don't play multiplayer ever can't you still get the highest ems possible by doing side quests and stuff to get the best ending?

At the very beginning, you couldn't get to the 4000 pt. threshold without playing an hours worth of unknown bronze matches unless you had the iphone app. It was changed a few months later to make it where you could. 



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When I was playing ME3SP, I gave MP a try to get my fleet readiness numbers up.  I almost never finished the SP because I was having so much fun with MP.  I would like a good SP story, but I absolutely must have a great MP like ME3MP--but better, less buggy, and no RNG store.


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I'm not sure I follow. Maybe I just don't remember that dialogue perfectly. Could you elaborate what you mean?
 
I thought the point in the scene was that everyone assumed they'd have more than one ship, and then they are surprised to find out that it's the same ship. So at that moment they (and we, the players) simply don't know whether they have only one or more ships, but based on that dialogue, it's entirely concievable they only have one that's made contact with other species.


That's a conceivable reading, but Shepard's reaction is awfully strange if that's what he's thinking. He says "The same ship dogging me for two years? Way beyond coincidence." That's pretty silly if there's only one ship ever -- of course the only Collector ship being present at both events isn't a coincidence.

OTOH, Shepard has been known to say stupid things from time to time.
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When I was playing ME3SP, I gave MP a try to get my fleet readiness numbers up.  I almost never finished the SP because I was having so much fun with MP.  I would like a good SP story, but I absolutely must have a great MP like ME3MP--but better, less buggy, and no RNG store.

 

Yes to ditching the RNG.

 

I wish they'd drop RMTs period, but that's what pays the bills in 2015.



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That's a conceivable reading, but Shepard's reaction is awfully strange if that's what he's thinking. He says "The same ship dogging me for two years? Way beyond coincidence." That's pretty silly if there's only one ship ever -- of course the only Collector ship being present at both events isn't a coincidence.

OTOH, Shepard has been known to say stupid things from time to time.

 

How is that strange if Shepard has no reason to even suspect that Collectors might only actually be using one ship in the area? She believes they have multiple ships - there's no reason to assume otherwise - and is therefore surprised when it's the same ship.


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#290
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How is that strange if Shepard has no reason to even suspect that Collectors might only actually be using one ship in the area? She believes they have multiple ships - there's no reason to assume otherwise - and is therefore surprised when it's the same ship.


Oh, wait --- you're saying that there's maybe only one ship but Shepard hasn't figured that out yet? And maybe never does?

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Dear Bioware, don't bring anything over from DAIMP.

Much love and thanks in advance.

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Oh, wait --- you're saying that there's maybe only one ship but Shepard hasn't figured that out yet? And maybe never does?

 

I still don't understand what you find weird in that piece of dialogue in the first place, it makes perfect sense to me. I ask again: could you please elaborate?


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#293
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We have no idea how much and what kind of resources Collectors really have and where they're located. In ME2 we just wiped out one base and one ship, that's all.

Everything they had and were was the property of the reapers. Given they're either now docile or destroyed, the only thing that it's likely Collectors did is fall into the fetal position and slowly die of malnutrition.



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No. I'm actually quite tired of MP. No more of it. 



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No. I'm actually quite tired of MP. No more of it. 

I'm quite tired of baddies who hate MP because they're terrible. Please leave or git gud.


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#296
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I still don't understand what you find weird in that piece of dialogue in the first place, it makes perfect sense to me. I ask again: could you please elaborate?


It's only weird if Shepard doesn't realize it's the only ship. If the only ship the Collectors have is disabled -- which is the working theory at the moment of the discussion -- then the entire mission is suddenly very different, since the Collectors won't pose any threat to anyone until they can build another. This is the sort of thing you'd talk about, not the obvious non-conincidence of the only ship the Collectors have being the only ship Shepard ever encountered.

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Dear Bioware, don't bring anything over from DAIMP.

Much love and thanks in advance.

 

 

Beyond the actual gameplay itself, which shouldn't really be relevant here as ME:A is going to play very differently regardless, what is the problem with DAIMP? 



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As for the lack of interest in multiplayer, that's just how it goes. Social gaming isn't for everyone and never will be. If it was a success in spite of that, then no biggie then. 

 

I remember a survey that went around when DAI came out.

  • About a third love multiplayer, a small proportion obsessively.
  • About a third will dabble occasionally.
  • About a third have no interest at all, some hating it obsessively.

SP will always be the main focus, 

the extent to which multiplayer should feature should simply relate to how well it can be done.



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I will be buying this exclusively for the MP only. SP is just a bonus. I hope they get it right like ME3 with many new add ons  B)



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When I was playing ME3SP, I gave MP a try to get my fleet readiness numbers up.  I almost never finished the SP because I was having so much fun with MP.  I would like a good SP story, but I absolutely must have a great MP like ME3MP--but better, less buggy, and no RNG store.

 

 

PREACH!