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[Pearl (rip bioware)]

The one time I would appluad EA's crap factor if that was the case.

Completely missed this earlier - you actively want part of the game to be bad? Guess you're not a true fan then.

[KaiserShep]

Spite is often more powerful than fandom.

[CrybabyXD]

I barely touch Multiplayer in Mass Effect 3 and DAI so no. If wanted a multiplayer focused game  i'll pick up COD but rather have an engaging story with choices.

[Spectr61]

Good God people, do the math,

ME3MP is still alive and well all these years after launch. Check it for yourself, just open it and go puggin.. (PC of course)

While I imagine there are people still completing the SP and probably will for years to come, MP has some serious legs.

I do not know the numbers, but I would love to see the comparison of current numbers between DA and ME MP. Bet ME wins.

The point is, SP is good, but co-op MP is great, as measured by its continuity and popularity.

[Dantriges]

Don't look now, but this is the exact same thing people said before ME3 and before MP was put into the game to say it would never be in a ME game.....yet here we are.

 

Well, what´s the point in doing this?   They have built a known brand with a huge fanbase and it has a certain identity. Bioware has a lot of expertise making these games. Your OP proposal is drop the SP completely and make a sequel to the multiplayer part only.

Why should they rework a succesful franchise and leave their speicial market niche to enter a market with already established competition?

Hasbro didn´t turn Risk into something like Settlers of Catan just because Euro games are popular.

 

Yeah Multiplayer is still popular but they probably sold most of their game copies not because ME has a good multiplayer mode.

Seems that the multiplayer shop makes enough money to expand though.

[FNX Finest]

Well, what´s the point in doing this?   They have built a known brand with a huge fanbase and it has a certain identity. Bioware has a lot of expertise making these games. Your OP proposal is drop the SP completely and make a sequel to the multiplayer part only.

Why should they rework a succesful franchise and leave their speicial market niche to enter a market with already established competition?

Hasbro didn´t turn Risk into something like Settlers of Catan just because Euro games are popular.

 

Incorrect.  I still want SP and it should be part of the game it should just be secondary and I want the main focus, resources, and man hours as well as top workers focused on MP.

[Cyonan]

Incorrect.  I still want SP and it should be part of the game it should just be secondary and I want the main focus, resources, and man hours as well as top workers focused on MP.

 

I know people said it about ME3 MP, but after DAMP I feel confident in saying that this will never happen for ME:A.

[AlanC9]

Good God people, do the math,
ME3MP is still alive and well all these years after launch. Check it for yourself, just open it and go puggin.. (PC of course)
While I imagine there are people still completing the SP and probably will for years to come, MP has some serious legs.
I do not know the numbers, but I would love to see the comparison of current numbers between DA and ME MP. Bet ME wins.
The point is, SP is good, but co-op MP is great, as measured by its continuity and popularity.

Are you guys actually spending a lot of money?

[Pasquale1234]

Are you guys actually spending a lot of money?

I've wondered about that, too.

From my relatively brief exposure, it looks to me like spending $ in MP would just hasten the harvest and get you the goodies faster.

[ImaginaryMatter]

Are you guys actually spending a lot of money?

 

ME3 MP makes it really tempting to do so.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Are you guys actually spending a lot of money?

I expect it's a volume business, like any freemium game. As long as there's a large playerbase, they just need occasional isolated spending.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Good God people, do the math,

ME3MP is still alive and well all these years after launch. Check it for yourself, just open it and go puggin.. (PC of course)

While I imagine there are people still completing the SP and probably will for years to come, MP has some serious legs.

I do not know the numbers, but I would love to see the comparison of current numbers between DA and ME MP. Bet ME wins.

The point is, SP is good, but co-op MP is great, as measured by its continuity and popularity.

To me, a game isn't worth it unless I can play it forever. MP never satisfies that for me, because the other players eventually move on.

[NeonFlux117]

Hells yeah OP, I've been saying this for years now. Also, I want it to be a FPS with kill streaks and sick nasty quickscopes.

 

And, tons and tons of Mountain Dew. Cause you gotta have the dew. You gotta!!!

[KaiserShep]

Good God people, do the math,

ME3MP is still alive and well all these years after launch. Check it for yourself, just open it and go puggin.. (PC of course)

While I imagine there are people still completing the SP and probably will for years to come, MP has some serious legs.

I do not know the numbers, but I would love to see the comparison of current numbers between DA and ME MP. Bet ME wins.

The point is, SP is good, but co-op MP is great, as measured by its continuity and popularity.

 

What this seems to establish is that BioWare doesn't really need to shift its focus any more than it has already, since people will still pay tribute to RNGesus regardless. Throw them some nice arenas with enemy salad and they'll eat it up, just like ME3MP. 

 

 

Incorrect.  I still want SP and it should be part of the game it should just be secondary and I want the main focus, resources, and man hours as well as top workers focused on MP.

 

 

Heh, I guess I should just get off the fence already and just go along with the joke, but I just wanted to point out that if you simply play multiplayer more than singleplayer, you already make it secondary. 

[Killdren88]

Completely missed this earlier - you actively want part of the game to be bad? Guess you're not a true fan then.

I don't play Multiplayer so it is no loss for me. Why I should care about your play experience is beyond me. And "true fan" is it? Can the same be said of those who favor Multiplayer and are happy with a gutted Singleplayer?

[FNX Finest]

I don't play Multiplayer so it is no loss for me. Why I should care about your play experience is beyond me. And "true fan" is it? Can the same be said of those who favor Multiplayer and are happy with a gutted Singleplayer?

 

It can.  I wouldn't automatically write it off.  We just know where the most important part of the game is and where the focus should be as the SP brigade is going to rage on the game regardless so it doesn't matter.  I'm not going to sit here and say DAI did not totally suck and ME3 didn't have some justified rage as well, but aside from a few points the things SP gamers complain about are so widespread you can hardly keep up.  Many of them don't even want a game more than they want a interactive movie for social justice and they don't even care about the "game".  You can sit here and say well those are just a few people.  Well when you read the forum all of those  "few" people become a clusterF of rage and complaining.  They are already complaining about a mere trailer for the next game and that's all they have.  A teaser for a game is out. "Hey gimmie my romance and make it fair! Screw the writers and the story they want to tell! Cater to me! ME ME ME ME!!!11!1!"  Hey guys the game is set in Andromeda and heres a little video. "WHAT!? Andromeda? Screw this game!" "The PC sucks! and where is the females!" "How do we get there!?  This game sucks!"

 

No matter what they do, they cannot win.  So why bust your butt for people like that when you have an entire group of fans who love the MP and just want more.  RIGHT NOW you could get on MEMP and bam! Your room would be full and a line of people ready to play if anyone leaves.

 

They killed it with the ME MP.  It was a great starting point.  It does need more meat on its bones though.  So lets get to work on that as you did such a great job and improve it.  Make a SP yeah, but since you can't please them anyways and they won't even give you a chance to then just put something out.

 

BTW all of those SP people complaining? They will still buy the game.  I bet at full price too.

[Metalfros]

Can't this topic be closed?

[FNX Finest]

Can't this topic be closed?

 

Probably for the same reason you just HAVE to click on it.......

[Heathen Oxman]

It can.  I wouldn't automatically write it off.  We just know where the most important part of the game is and where the focus should be as the SP brigade is going to rage on the game regardless so it doesn't matter.  I'm not going to sit here and say DAI did not totally suck, and ME3 didn't have some justified rage as well, but aside from a few points the things SP gamers complain about are so widespread you can hardly keep up.  Many of them don't even want a game more than they want a interactive movie for social justice and they don't even care about the "game".  You can sit here and say well those are just a few people.  Well when you read the forum all of those  "few" people become a clusterF of rage and complaining.  They are already complaining about a mere trailer for the next game and that's all they have.  A teaser for a game is out. "Her gimmie my romance and make it fair screw the writers and the story they want to tell cater to me! ME ME ME ME!!!11!1!"  Hey guys the game is set in Andromeda and heres a little video. "WHAT!? Andromeda? Screw this game!" "The PC sucks! and where is the females!" "How do we get there!?  This game sucks!"

 

No matter what they do, they cannot win.  So why bust your butt for people like that when you have an entire group of fans who love the MP and just want more.  RIGHT NOW you could get on MEMP and bam! You room would be full and a line of people ready to play if anyone leaves.

 

They killed it with the ME MP.  It was a great starting point.  It does need more meat on its bones though.  So lets get to work on that as you did such a great job and improve it.  Make a SP yeah, but since you can't please them anyways and they won't even give you a chance to then just put something out.

 

BTW all of those SP people complaining? They will still buy the game.  I bet at full price too.

 

Indeed.

 

I'll probably even pre-order and go to the midnight release party at Gamestop.

[The Elder King]

@FNX Finest: it doesn't seem they're changing their approach though. I wouldn't build too many expectations on MP being the main focus.

[FNX Finest]

@FNX Finest: it doesn't seem they're changing their approach though. I wouldn't build too many expectations on MP being the main focus.

 

If that is what they want to do with their game then I accept that.  I could deal with ME3MP 2.0 with just new maps, weapons, abilities, characters.  I would hope they do give it some attention and expand it in some ways.  I think they care about their MP and I think seeing how appreciated and loved it was they would want to really show the fans that they see that.

 

I am not below writing games off of my list.  I will never again buy a Dragon Age game.  If they want to just dump all over the MP community then that is fine and I will move on, but I have faith in ME and the team that does MP.  I just hope others do as well and see the potential it has. Just how good it can really be.

 

If this is the case though it's because they let SP baddies touch the game.

[The Elder King]

If that is what they want to do with their game then I accept that. I could deal with ME3MP 2.0 with just new maps, weapons, abilities, characters. I would hope they do give it some attention and expand it in some ways. I think they care about their MP and I think seeing how appreciated and loved it was they would want to really show the fans that they see that.

I am not below writing games off of my list. I will never again buy a Dragon Age game. If they want to just dump all over the MP community then that is fine and I will move on, but I have faith in ME and the team that does MP. I just hope others do as well and see the potential it has. Just how good it can really be.

If this is the case though it's because they let SP baddies touch the game.

Maybe I wasn't clear. I'm Not saying Bioware won't or shouldn't improve MP. I do think They should improve it. It doesn't mean that will happen at the expense of SP. Based on What Bioware said, EA gave a specific and separate budget for MP. It isn't Bioware's decision to How they divide the resources between MP and SP.
I don't get the last phrase.

[rashie]

MP shouldn't get the main focus, since locations/etc can easily be repurposed for MP,

That said, anyone that argues for the removal or less dev time of MP, are even worse than those that wants MP to effect SP. It still has players over 3 years later when it wasn't even the main focus, there are games with a MP aspect that are dead in the water just a few months after launch. If you think bioware shouldn't be building on that legacy you are delusional.

[The Elder King]

MP shouldn't get the main focus, since locations/etc can easily be repurposed for MP,
That said, anyone that argues for the removal or less dev time of MP, are even worse than those that wants MP to effect SP. It still has players over 3 years later when it wasn't even the main focus, there are games with a MP aspect that are dead in the water just a few months after launch. If you think bioware shouldn't be building on that legacy you are delusional.

Indeed. The MP was a big success. They'd be stupid to Not improve it.

[q5tyhj]

MP shouldn't get the main focus, since locations/etc can easily be repurposed for MP,

That said, anyone that argues for the removal or less dev time of MP, are even worse than those that wants MP to effect SP. It still has players over 3 years later when it wasn't even the main focus, there are games with a MP aspect that are dead in the water just a few months after launch. If you think bioware shouldn't be building on that legacy you are delusional.

Can I get an "amen"?