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You are going to label something "brainless" with punctuation and grammar such as this? This post is literally illegible, and looks like it was first typed in Nyanja, copypasted in google translate to Azerbaijani, then translated again to Welsh before English.
 

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and it's a bit like going onto the Gran Turismo forums and asking for more Mario Kart like features. ME is a series of action games, specifically third person shooters with limited roleplaying elements.

sorry man.. not everybody in this world has this unique privilege to have english as native language.

and still.... punctuation and gramar have nothing in common with ME3 multiplayer. It is stupid and looks like added in last moment to game content  to confort players who want some kind of multiplayer.

Point is.. if they wanted MP game they should have done it. But as completely separate game. "ME3-online" MMO-PvP  earth vs cerberus +PvE vs reapers.

Mixing SP and MP in one game is bad idea anyway. There are ppl who like online games (I was one of them but I thik I'm cured now). And there are ppl who want play SP only. Mixing SP and MP is forcing ppl to do things they don't like too much. Its like windows+ IE bundle. Who uses IE anyway?


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Adding the MP to ME3 saved the entire game. I doubt I would have played it again after the first time if it wasn't for the multiplayer.


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i bet if they made a separate multiplayer mode with its own story line and open world connected to campaign :D oh god it would be better then destiny itself 

 

but they have to keep the traditional multiplayer of course because i love having all those variations of classes and races to play with 



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I don't think so, because it's adding a step to a simple process that isn't required. If I had a preference I would actually want the pause upon activating the weapon or power wheels removed entirely because it interrupts the flow of gameplay and has literally no lore justification, but it isn't a big deal to me because I've only sparingly used powers not on hotkey since ME2 anyway.

 

"Lore" is a poor basis for getting rid of features in the game's interface. I don't believe that there's anything in the lore of Mass Effect that permits Shepard to scoop up containers of armor components and have them magically store inside the omni-tool. There's always going to be that game-y bit that's impossible to avoid. 

 

Just the same, with volus and awakened collectors in MP, lore is just a big goofy free-for-all anyway. 



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I don't play MP much (I did at first), but these are the players who are still keeping ME3 alive. I can't knock them. To me, that means they're the biggest fans... just that they're still getting stoked about playing the game. Bioware isn't giving something like that up.


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I don't play MP much (I did at first), but these are the players who are still keeping ME3 alive. I can't knock them. To me, that means they're the biggest fans... just that they're still getting stoked about playing the game. Bioware isn't giving something like that up.

oh really? You say there is still someone who play ME3 coop? I'm stunned. I played it couple of times but found it booooring and pointless and gave up. BTW I'm still plying ME1 ME2 ME3  from time to time just make new toon and run whole trilogy

If I want play on-line I chose real MMO not a side product.


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oh really? You say there is still someone who play ME3 coop? I'm stunned. I played it couple of times but found it booooring and pointless and gave up. BTW I'm still plying ME1 ME2 ME3  from time to time just make new toon and run whole trilogy

If I want play on-line I chose real MMO not a side product.

 

Yes really. There are lots of people still active. The ME3 MP forum is the largest section on BSN, too. :P


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Yes really. There are lots of people still active. The ME3 MP forum is the largest section on BSN, too. :P

let them live long and prosper... :rolleyes:

That doesn't change my opinion that Bioware would have done better choice if they made standalone ME-Online game ofc with ME3 SP one. I don't like mixing genres.....


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let them live long and prosper... :rolleyes:

That doesn't change my opinion that Bioware would have done better choice if they made standalone ME-Online game ofc with ME3 SP one. I don't like mixing genres.....

 

Well, perhaps you should have a closer look at all the games in the past then. Pretty much every shooter had a single and multiplayer mode. It's not like ME3 invented the wheel here.

 

ME3 MP is a fun little game but it's not enough for a standalone product.


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In fact that feature "ME3 - shooter game" is most downside for me of that production. (I don't know how to say it). It was supposed to be SciFi game with plot, mystery talky&techy but instead I have got just a shooter. I don't mind ppl playing "company of heroes"(just first title that come to my mind as shooter game. I do not play that) its their choice and they have many titles. I think more than half of the market are shooters. I just have big grief to Bioware that they turned game I liked into a shooter.

 

And about MMO ME-Online I think it would have great potential (for ppl who like that sort of things). We have nice 2 opposing fractions Earth and Cerberus to get epic PvP on land and in space and we have arch-enemy reapers to have nice PvE action. What you need more?


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oh really? You say there is still someone who play ME3 coop? I'm stunned. I played it couple of times but found it booooring and pointless and gave up. BTW I'm still plying ME1 ME2 ME3  from time to time just make new toon and run whole trilogy

If I want play on-line I chose real MMO not a side product.

 

The same here. 



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In fact that feature "ME3 - shooter game" is most downside for me of that production. (I don't know how to say it). It was supposed to be SciFi game with plot, mystery talky&techy but instead I have got just a shooter. I don't mind ppl playing "company of heroes"(just first title that come to my mind as shooter game. I do not play that) its their choice and they have many titles. I think more than half of the market are shooters. I just have big grief to Bioware that they turned game I liked into a shooter.
 
And about MMO ME-Online I think it would have great potential (for ppl who like that sort of things). We have nice 2 opposing fractions Earth and Cerberus to get epic PvP on land and in space and we have arch-enemy reapers to have nice PvE action. What you need more?


Mass Effect was always a shooter; the first game just wasn't very good at it. In any case, I don't think that the meat of the games were at all sacrificed for it. We still have the big stories and such, just more refined gunplay mixed into it.
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oh really? You say there is still someone who play ME3 coop? I'm stunned. I played it couple of times but found it booooring and pointless and gave up. BTW I'm still plying ME1 ME2 ME3  from time to time just make new toon and run whole trilogy

If I want play on-line I chose real MMO not a side product.

I don't see how anyone got through that Menu's and Mako's Mess that is ME1 more than a couple of times. The story is great, but the game is literally no fun to play.



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I don't see how anyone got through that Menu's and Mako's Mess that is ME1 more than a couple of times. The story is great, but the game is literally no fun to play.

well.... de gustibus non disputandum est....I really like Mako quests that give some hint of universe exploration. I didn't liked ME2 planet scanning if I'm using probe it is supposed to have automated search system.

And whole ME3 is bad. If I play this game it is just to complete saga. It is pain... bad story, bad execution, bad game play, uneven characters design, awful animation, shallow dialogues, bad ending. Most disappointing game... especially after acclaimed Bioware promises.

It is like american film. You her in teaser "most waited film of the century, best spectacle in history" go to the cinema and pft lol just guns, guns, couple of explosions and in 2/3 speech about kicking somebody's asses. All screenwriters died there?



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sorry man.. not everybody in this world has this unique privilege to have english as native language.

and still.... punctuation and gramar have nothing in common with ME3 multiplayer. It is stupid and looks like added in last moment to game content  to confort players who want some kind of multiplayer.

Point is.. if they wanted MP game they should have done it. But as completely separate game. "ME3-online" MMO-PvP  earth vs cerberus +PvE vs reapers.

Mixing SP and MP in one game is bad idea anyway. There are ppl who like online games (I was one of them but I thik I'm cured now). And there are ppl who want play SP only. Mixing SP and MP is forcing ppl to do things they don't like too much. Its like windows+ IE bundle. Who uses IE anyway?

My native language isn't English, and in fact I didn't even start learning it until I was 8 years old. There is another poster on this page that you are arguing with for whom I know it isn't either. If you are learning fine, but going and trying to insult something for being "stupid" in a language you didn't even bother to learn the rules and conventions of is a bit ironic, so don't cry about being called out on it.

As much as I can read them, your arguments don't make any sense either. You are essentially calling MP stupid and then begging the question, without providing any rationale as to why you think that way apart from patently incorrect information like "it was added in the last minute" (actually, people had been asking for it for years and it was an intergral part of ME3's design from the start) and unsupported conjecture.

Why should they have done a standalone game if both can fit on the same disc? Why is "mixing SP and MP" a bad idea? Most games with MP do that. If you aren't paying more for a game that has both SP and MP then how are you being "forced" to do anything? Are you even trying to make a cognizant argument, or are you just spewing nonsense opinions motivated by antisocial butthurt, evidenced by the statement that you believe you were "cured" from liking MP at some point, as if it is a disease?

Whatever you do, don't go into your bathroom and say "Multiplayer" three times. A racist, 12 year old high scool football team captain will appear and give you a wedgie, then take your lunch money and call you a nerd while threatening to bang your mom.

 


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English is the type 1 language of the world.  Michio Kaku has been trying to tell you.  Just like MP gaming is the type 1 version of gaming.  Lets go people.



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My native language isn't English, and in fact I didn't even start learning it until I was 8 years old. There is another poster on this page that you are arguing with for whom I know it isn't either. If you are learning fine, but going and trying to insult something for being "stupid" in a language you didn't even bother to learn the rules and conventions of is a bit ironic, so don't cry about being called out on it.

As much as I can read them, your arguments don't make any sense either. You are essentially calling MP stupid and then begging the question, without providing any rationale as to why you think that way apart from patently incorrect information like "it was added in the last minute" (actually, people had been asking for it for years and it was an intergral part of ME3's design from the start) and unsupported conjecture.

Why should they have done a standalone game if both can fit on the same disc? Why is "mixing SP and MP" a bad idea? Most games with MP do that. If you aren't paying more for a game that has both SP and MP then how are you being "forced" to do anything? Are you even trying to make a cognizant argument, or are you just spewing nonsense opinions motivated by antisocial butthurt, evidenced by the statement that you believe you were "cured" from liking MP at some point, as if it is a disease?

Whatever you do, don't go into your bathroom and say "Multiplayer" three times. A racist, 12 year old high scool football team captain will appear and give you a wedgie, then take your lunch money and call you a nerd while threatening to bang your mom.

 

 

To say nothing of the challenge of trying to learn English through an induction port. I'm still in the research phase on the whole Quarian-Elcor thing. At this stage, it is looking like the mechanics will work out better with an Asari intermediary. Confession: I am not perturbed by this potential development.


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I'm not trying to insult anybody. Yes, I'm still learning and I don't feel good when somebody is mocking me about language(maybe I'm less language talented than You are) . I want arguments, instead I get; that my grammar is bad.  And  language I speak has nothing in common with my opinion about game that I paid for, same as You did(maybe more, as we have much lower income).  If we had 2 separate games SP and MP it is ok. Bioware eventually patched SP to release endings from MP result. But at the beginning, to get perfect ending we were forced to play MP.  I played it couple of times because I had to. Sorry, running around the block with guns to kill  incoming waves of opponents is not my favourite way to spent the evening.  Maybe MP was integral part of the game from the beginning but I perceive it, as added in the last moment, poorly executed addition. You say there are ppl who like it. I'm OK with that. But Biowate please do not force me, to be one of them.

You may say whatever you want, but you will not convince me that MP in ME3 is worth a single penny.  Insulting me will not change my opinion about ME3 MP

And if ME:A  will have same system I'm not buying it. It is that understandable?



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You don't want BW to focus on MP. If they dont focus on good story, characters and gameplay and make crappy SP we will have another **** storm. Yea they pulled this off in ME3 but f this up in DAI. And its funny what people say becouse everybody said complete opposite of that before ME3 ("dont make MP at all BW, you will destroy amazing game").



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well.... de gustibus non disputandum est....I really like Mako quests that give some hint of universe exploration. I didn't liked ME2 planet scanning if I'm using probe it is supposed to have automated search system.

And whole ME3 is bad. If I play this game it is just to complete saga. It is pain... bad story, bad execution, bad game play, uneven characters design, awful animation, shallow dialogues, bad ending. Most disappointing game... especially after acclaimed Bioware promises.

It is like american film. You her in teaser "most waited film of the century, best spectacle in history" go to the cinema and pft lol just guns, guns, couple of explosions and in 2/3 speech about kicking somebody's asses. All screenwriters died there?

.... de gustibus non disputandum est... Is what you have been doing the for the last 3 pages of this thread. At least what I was complaining about is in agreement for a plurality of ME players.


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sorry man.. not everybody in this world has this unique privilege to have english as native language.

and still.... punctuation and gramar have nothing in common with ME3 multiplayer. It is stupid and looks like added in last moment to game content  to confort players who want some kind of multiplayer.

Point is.. if they wanted MP game they should have done it. But as completely separate game. "ME3-online" MMO-PvP  earth vs cerberus +PvE vs reapers.

Mixing SP and MP in one game is bad idea anyway. There are ppl who like online games (I was one of them but I thik I'm cured now). And there are ppl who want play SP only. Mixing SP and MP is forcing ppl to do things they don't like too much. Its like windows+ IE bundle. Who uses IE anyway?

Whether someone speaks a language in written form well is rarely related to whether its native, and more about the effort put into learning it. I might have slightly odd juxtapositions at times, but English is not my native language either, and I don't think many can tell without knowing that.

 

That said, why should they split them up if there's room for both of them on the same disc? In regards to balancing they are already mostly separate games, many guns and powers behave differently in MP, and the classes are not carbon copies of the way Shepard plays either. Since the EC its also largely disconnected from the SP in terms of ending availability.



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.... de gustibus non disputandum est... Is what you have been doing the for the last 3 pages of this thread. At least what I was complaining about is in agreement for a plurality of ME players.

You got me. I'm discussing preferences. It is just that, I do not want ME:A to be like more than half of the market ....just another shooter. I want it to be more tan that. I had very high expectations before release of ME3 (pumped up with Bioware promises). And after playing it for the first time, I had the feeling that I was cheated by them. That game was unfinished, sold too early just to make money.  I had no fun playing it.

And still I have high expectations on ME:A because ME was amazing for me. (ofc it was a shooter but balanced one)

You may call me stupid 4 that. I do not care.



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As a SP only player I fully support this. Make all games mp and console based only. Have free to play, little story, pay walls and competitive pvp matches. That's obviously the group of players they want,so might as well go all in.

I just won't be playing them.
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Whatever you do, don't go into your bathroom and say "Multiplayer" three times. A racist, 12 year old high scool football team captain will appear and give you a wedgie, then take your lunch money and call you a nerd while threatening to bang your mom.

It seems odd that he would compliment me.
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Whatever you do, don't go into your bathroom and say "Multiplayer" three times. A racist, 12 year old high scool football team captain will appear and give you a wedgie, then take your lunch money and call you a nerd while threatening to bang your mom.


He's the captain of the high school football team at only 12? Goddamn, that kid has a future.
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