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[Quarian Master Race]

Nope, not "hax."  I just played the game.  I'm not making it up, and the numbers aren't lying.  I had fun playing the game and, with some cautious hope, look forward to ME:A.  

 

Why do you care about this so much?  You had fun with MP and got a great ending?  Awesome!  You've probably made some friends and had a good time trying out the different races that MP has to choose from.  

 

I had fun with SP and got a great ending?  Sweet, I feel like I got my money's worth.  I didn't feel like I was wasting my time.  I'm not going to apologize for it though, because it's a big case of Your Mileage May Vary.  I don't think either of us is right or wrong in this.  It's just, like, our opinion, man.  

 

Why does it matter in any case?  We all had fun, so why make this into some stupid competition?  I'm not being snarky or sarcastic about this.  I believe that the lot of us having a good time is more than enough.  We are all fans of this game, at least enough to stick around and keep talking about it.  I have yet to hear a single reason why I should treat anyone differently because they happen to like a different playstyle in a game that we both enjoy.  

I just added all the asari war assets together. I got 698
http://masseffect.wi...ar_Assets/Asari

Denial isn't just a river in Egypt you dirty hacker. 

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Without my MP assets I only have 8060 EMS, I have no idea what I could be missing since I did absolutely everything.

 

Not all decisions return the same assets. Sometimes, "Paragon" decisions are worth more assets, sometimes "Renegade" decisions are. In some missions, decisions can change the war value total for the asset at the end.

 

I'm quite certain there's a fairly wide amount of variability to potential asset total that you could be bringing forward, even if you completed all missions and tasks (which would also explain why there is so much disparity of opinion over what was possible without MP.)

 

Your number of 8060 is very close to what I had for everything up to Leviathan, so chances are Natashina's total is an unusually lucky combination of decisions regarding maximizing the asset value of individual missions (as my best guess, anyway.)

[Grieving Natashina]

<thud>  I don't know enough about coding to even begin to hack.  I never cheated on that character.   Did you add it up just for ME3 or did you add what you could get for the entire series?  I have no reason to lie to you or anyone else about this.  Because you linked to me the numbers for the Asari you get in ME3 alone, and I know War Assets are affected by the previous games in the series.

[Quarian Master Race]

<thud>  I don't know enough about coding to even begin to hack.   Did you add it up just for ME3 or did you add what you could get for the entire series?

that is all you can get, and it requires saving the Council in ME1 (gross), otherwise you lose a big chunk of it from Destiny Ascension getting rekt.

That krogan number is also impossible just off the top of my head (around 850ish max), as is the geth (815 max). Where's a space marine or a vorcha when you need a dirty hacker purged/ burned?

[DaemionMoadrin]

Not all decisions return the same assets. Sometimes, "Paragon" decisions are worth more assets, sometimes "Renegade" decisions are. In some missions, decisions can change the war value total for the asset at the end.

 

I'm quite certain there's a fairly wide amount of variability to potential asset total that you could be bringing forward, even if you completed all missions and tasks (which would also explain why there is so much disparity of opinion over what was possible without MP.)

 

Your number of 8060 is very close to what I had for everything up to Leviathan, so chances are Natashina's total is an unusually lucky combination of decisions regarding maximizing the asset value of individual missions (as my best guess, anyway.)

 

I am aware that I lost a few points in the Citadel Defense Force and with the Salarians. The total shouldn't be off by that much though.

 

<thud>  I don't know enough about coding to even begin to hack.  I never cheated on that character.   Did you add it up just for ME3 or did you add what you could get for the entire series?  I have no reason to lie to you or anyone else about this.  Because you linked to me the numbers for the Asari you get in ME3 alone, and I know War Assets are affected by the previous games in the series.

 

Those are the numbers from my ME1-ME3 imported Paragon Shepard:

 

Alien: 1788

Alliance: 7723 (1648 without MP)

Asari: 698

Crucible: 690

Ex-Cerberus: 260

Krogan: 875

Geth: 815

Salarian: 153

Turian: 643

Quarian: 490

 

You have more in almost every category and I have no idea how or why. I'm going to compare my numbers with the wiki now.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

I just added all the asari war assets together. I got 698
http://masseffect.wi...ar_Assets/Asari

Denial isn't just a river in Egypt you dirty hacker. 

 

Tell me you did not just cite the wiki as an authoritative source! xD

 

I suspect that your total doesn't include the variables I mentioned above. I'm pretty sure that my Asari asset total was closer to 1000, but I am unable to check, as the hard drive is in the great electronics recycling bin in the sky.

[Grieving Natashina]

I did save the Council.  That Krogan number isn't impossible either.  I'm not making this up.  I'm not a liar, or a hacker.  You just refuse to believe that a person can get those numbers without cheating or playing MP.  

 

Here's the list of max War Assets and how to get them.  I did everything other than kill Wrex.  I never followed this or any guide though.  7517 is the maximum War Assets in the single player game.  I also believe that this was pre-EC:

 

http://www.gamefaqs....fect-3/62278044

 

Mass Effect 1 Choices:
Do NOT punch Khalisah Bint Sinan al-Jilani
Help Jenna in Chora's Den
Complete the Asari Matriarch's Writings Gathering Quest
Purchase the Elkoss Combine License
Save the Council
Kill Wrex on Virmire
Save Kirrahe on Virmire
Save the Colonists, Shiala, and convince Jeong on Feros to have ExoGeni stay
Save the Rachni Queen on Noveria
Complete Conrad Verner's quests, and have him go home.

Kill Rana on Virmire.



Bring Down the Sky:
Let Balak go

Mass Effect 2 Choices:
Continue to NOT punch Khalisah Bint Sinan al-Jilani
Ensure you have Zaeed and Kasumi DLC
Ensure all Squad Members are Loyal and survive the Suicide Mission
Help Shiala and the Zhu's Hope Colonists on Illium
*Romance* Kelly Chambers (get the option to have her come to your cabin)
Have over 100k of each Mineral Resource (That's what I had and got the 100 Assets from Minerals, could require less)
Save Maelon's Data in Mordin's Loyalty Mission
Save the Collector Base
Help Conrad Verner
Choose Samara over Morinth

Buy Paddlefish*

Project Overlord:
Save Gavin & David Archer

Lair of the Shadow Broker:
Complete it

Arrival:
Complete it

Mass Effect 3 Choices:
Support Khalisah Bint Sinan al-Jilani
Find all 3 Terminals on Eden Prime
Allow Diana Allers aboard the Normandy (choose the colored Paragon or Renegade choices during subsequent Interviews, not the regular choices)
Do NOT allow Dr. Chakwas aboard the Normandy
Do NOT allow Kaiden/Ashley back aboard the Normandy
Make sure you talk to Thane BEFORE the Cerberus assault on the Citadel
Sabotage the Genophage
Convince Balak to join the War
Recruit Aria's mercenary groups without killing Oraka
Do NOT approve the Asari Commando a Gun or the Transfer Request on the Spectre Terminal
Approve all other Spectre Terminal Requests
Side with Apollo Cafe Owner over the C-Sec Turian
Side with Dock Officer over the Refugee
Side with the Worried Merchant over the Angry Merchant
Side with the Woman near Barla Von about helping in the Clinic
Save the Rachni Queen again
Convince Din Korlack to give you the Volus Bombing Fleet & Save the Turian Colony
Send the Grissom Academy Students to an Offensive Position after saving them
Side with Admiral Xen over Tali aboard the Normandy about salvaging the Geth Dreadnought
Make Liara talk to her Father at Apollo's Cafe
Tell Kelly Chambers to change her Identity
Warn Miranda about Cerberus, and later about Kai Leng
Choose the colored Renegade choice at the end of the Sanctuary Mission to have Miranda kill her Father
Be friendly with Cortez, meet him at the Memorial Wall in the Docks
Renegade Interrupt kill Udina (does he actually shoot the Asari Councilor? I can't resist shooting him enough to find out)
Save Admiral Zaal'Koris on Rannoch
Allow Legion to Upgrade the Geth and Convince the Quarians to stop attacking
Paragon Interrupt Samara during the Ardat Yak'shi Temple mission
Side with Admiral Gerrel over Admiral Raan aboard the Normandy to support the Heavy Fleet

[Quarian Master Race]

 

I am aware that I lost a few points in the Citadel Defense Force and with the Salarians. The total shouldn't be off by that much though.

 

 

Those are the numbers from my ME1-ME3 imported Paragon Shepard:

 

Alien: 1788

Alliance: 7723 (1648 without MP)

Asari: 698

Crucible: 690

Ex-Cerberus: 260

Krogan: 875

Geth: 815

Salarian: 153

Turian: 643

Quarian: 490

 

You have more in almost every category and I have no idea how or why. I'm going to compare my numbers with the wiki now.

never talk to me again you Heretic hugging ingrate. Won't do any good because you're blocked now anyway.

[DaemionMoadrin]

never talk to me again you Heretic hugging ingrate. Won't do any good because you're blocked now anyway.

 

Awww QMR, don't be like that.

 

I promise to destroy all Geth in my current Renegade playthrough, okay?

[DaemionMoadrin]

Tell me you did not just cite the wiki as an authoritative source! xD

 

I suspect that your total doesn't include the variables I mentioned above. I'm pretty sure that my Asari asset total was closer to 1000, but I am unable to check, as the hard drive is in the great electronics recycling bin in the sky.

 

No, it includes those variables and the numbers match my playthrough almost perfectly. The only notable difference I found was the Ex-Cerberus number which could be 40-120 points higher if you played Mass Effect: Infiltrator. Which seems to be a game for mobile devices of which I own exactly zero.

[Kantr]

I did save the Council.  That Krogan number isn't impossible either.  I'm not making this up.  I'm not a liar, or a hacker.  You just refuse to believe that a person can get those numbers without cheating or playing MP.  

 

Here's the list of max War Assets and how to get them.  I did everything other than kill Wrex.  I never followed this or any guide though.  7517 is the maximum War Assets in the single player game.  I also believe that this was pre-EC:

 

http://www.gamefaqs....fect-3/62278044

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Odd how killing Wrex brings up the score.

[Quarian Master Race]

I did save the Council.  That Krogan number isn't impossible either.  I'm not making this up.  I'm not a liar, or a hacker.  You just refuse to believe that a person can get those numbers without cheating or playing MP.  

 

Here's the list of max War Assets and how to get them.  I did everything other than kill Wrex.  I never followed this or any guide though.  7517 is the maximum War Assets in the single player game:

I don't believe you. My numbers are pretty much in line with Daemion's (apart from me making superior choices in quarian/geth issues) on a min/max playthrough, and I know for a fact that you can't get the geth above 815 which would automatically make your list hax. It's probably 7517 TMS (not EMS) is the theoretical maximum after factoring for mutually exclusive assets. That sounds about right in my experience.

 

[Grieving Natashina]

I've checked all of my other Shepards.  All of them have krogan numbers that look like that.  The Asari numbers are even higher and I never cheated a damned thing.  I don't own the apps, and I'm even missing a DLC.  I never bothered to check the specifics on wiki.  I just played the game, looked at the number and thought, "Cool, I have enough for the better endings I've heard about."

 

The only reason I used gibbed was for a head morph.  I didn't need to bump anything.  I don't put up screenshots of characters I cheated on if I'm trying to make a point about gameplay mechanics.  I've never done that before, and I'm sure not starting now.

 

I will repeat: I'm not lying, not making this up.  Not using a cheat, or a hack.  I have no reason to use those things.  I don't hack this.  Why would I? That kills all the fun out of it.  

[Quarian Master Race]

Odd how killing Wrex brings up the score.

You can't get the salarian fleet via sabotage with Wrex around without losing a big chunk of the krogan, and his own improved krogan assets over Wreav don't offset the difference from curing the genophage.

[DaemionMoadrin]

I've checked all of my other Shepards.  All of them have krogan numbers that look like that.  The Asari numbers are even higher and I never cheated a damned thing.  I don't own the apps, and I'm even missing a DLC.  I never bothered to check the specifics on wiki.  I just played the game, looked at the number and thought, "Cool, I have enough for the better endings I've heard about."

 

The only reason I used gibbed was for a head morph.  I don't put up screenshots of characters I cheated on if I'm trying to make a point about gameplay mechanics.  I've never done that before, and I'm sure not starting now.

 

I believe you didn't change anything intentionally. Maybe it's a bug with your game, who knows?

 

Quote wiki:

 

There are 8370 total War Assets available in the game without downloadable content, but this number cannot be reached as it includes War Assets that are restricted to specific outcomes of player decisions, including saving Kaidan Alenko or Ashley Williams, saving or sacrificing the Citadel Council, and spreading or sabotaging the genophage cure. As such, the highest obtainable War Assets score is approximately 7500.

 

Downloadable content for Mass Effect 3 significantly affects the War Assets system. Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut lowers the EMS required to achieve all possible endings from ~4000 to 3100. Mass Effect 3: Leviathan features an additional 620 War Assets for the player to obtain, Mass Effect 3: Omega features an additional 405 War Assets, and Mass Effect 3: Citadel adds 70 points to the Alliance Frigate Normandy SR-2 War Asset. The mobile game Mass Effect: Infiltrator also grants up to 120 War Assets if completed.

 

 

If I add all that together then the maximum anyone can reach is ~8700.

[Grieving Natashina]

I believe you didn't change anything intentionally. Maybe it's a bug with your game, who knows?

 

Quote wiki:

 

There are 8370 total War Assets available in the game without downloadable content, but this number cannot be reached as it includes War Assets that are restricted to specific outcomes of player decisions, including saving Kaidan Alenko or Ashley Williams, saving or sacrificing the Citadel Council, and spreading or sabotaging the genophage cure. As such, the highest obtainable War Assets score is approximately 7500.

 

Downloadable content for Mass Effect 3 significantly affects the War Assets system. Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut lowers the EMS required to achieve all possible endings from ~4000 to 3100. Mass Effect 3: Leviathan features an additional 620 War Assets for the player to obtain, Mass Effect 3: Omega features an additional 405 War Assets, and Mass Effect 3: Citadel adds 70 points to the Alliance Frigate Normandy SR-2 War Asset. The mobile game Mass Effect: Infiltrator also grants up to 120 War Assets if completed.

 

 

If I add all that together then the maximum anyone can reach is ~8600

8600 Total Military Strength or EMS?  There seems to be a difference in the two.  I just checked Gibbed on my character in progress.  Her TMS shows as zero, but she has War Assets going.

[DaemionMoadrin]

8600 Total Military Strength or EMS?  There seems to be a difference in the two.  I just checked Gibbed on my character in progress.  Her TMS shows as zero, but she has War Assets going.

 

TMS.

 

Which is the same as EMS in my case, but yeah... TMS.

[Grieving Natashina]

Okay, then something must be up here.  Here is my character that I'm currently playing.  She's done all the fetch quests up to Tuchunka, which she is getting ready to go.  Stopped the Turian Bomb and Cereberus and got Grunt out, went Space Trucking for random goods.  This is her War Assets screen.  Again, Gibbed is telling me that I have a EMS of zero.

 

 

I've done no hacking and no MP.  I mean, that's almost 1/2 of the Assets I had on my completed characters, and my average EMS on them is about 5000. So color me confused.  And very sodding frustrating.

[Quarian Master Race]

Awww QMR, don't be like that.

 

I promise to destroy all Geth in my current Renegade playthrough, okay?

Why do you need to be a renegade to do that? I destroy them in every playthrough. I keep trying to make them obedient quarian servants as the good Ancestors intended, but the choices are not accommodating and Gerrel always stomps their virtual asses into actual dust after he kills their false Cthulhu god. I must be doing something wrong somewhere because I can't get Xen to show up and make them serve me refreshments while performing a lovely dance.

[DaemionMoadrin]

Natashina, your Alliance number is definitely too high if you haven't done any MP and aren't even close to the end of the game. Do you have any strange entries in that category that don't match this?

[DaemionMoadrin]

Why do you need to be a renegade to do that? I destroy them in every playthrough. I keep trying to make them obedient quarian servants as the good Ancestors intended, but the choices are not accommodating and Gerrel always stomps their virtual asses into actual dust after he kills their false Cthulhu god. I must be doing something wrong somewhere because I can't get Xen to show up and make them serve me refreshments while performing a lovely dance.

 

I honestly don't care for anyone's personal problems. Genophage, uppity servant robots, whatever. My only goal was defeating the Reapers and the combined Geth & Quarian fleets have a higher point total than either one on its own.

[Grieving Natashina]

This is what I've gotten.  I took screenshots of what Alliance assets I had where.  I'll put them in spoiler tags to save on some space.  I had freed the Rachni Queen at this point.  I've been comparing that to the wiki link and it looks like nothing is out of the ordinary except the numbers are too damned high on my end:

 

Spoiler

Spoiler

Spoiler

Spoiler

 

 

Nothing is listed twice in the War Assets, that's just how the screenshots worked out.  

 

Edit: After looking and carefully comparing, I have no idea how I ended up with about 100 more points in some of the areas than I should.

[Quarian Master Race]

 

I honestly don't care for anyone's personal problems. Genophage, uppity servant robots, whatever. My only goal was defeating the Reapers and the combined Geth & Quarian fleets have a higher point total than either one on its own.

You won't care until said uppity servant robots decide to turn on you for like the 3rd time (there seems to be a pattern here), only this time you can't kill them because they have Pinocchio code that makes them way smarter than you (which they were, because they duped you into letting them have said code). Or you kill the Reapers and eliminate their competition as the good philosopher Javik elucidated, only to then play ME4: Pinnochiocalypse.

You said you were concerned with higher point totals, yet you turned down the salarians and their generous offer? What's wrong with you? Best assets are to rekt the heretics so you get moar quarians (who are worth more than idiot toasters because we're better), kill Wrex, then shoot Mordin and fool Wreav by sabotaging his cure. You're welcome.

[DaemionMoadrin]

 

You said you were concerned with higher point totals, yet you turned down the salarians and their generous offer? What's wrong with you? Best assets are to rekt the heretics so you get moar quarians (who are worth more than idiot toasters because we're better), kill Wrex, then shoot Mordin and fool Wreav by sabotaging his cure. You're welcome.

 

 

Well, I was also looking out for my friends. Why save the galaxy if I killed all the good people in it?

[Quarian Master Race]

Well, I was also looking out for my friends. Why save the galaxy if I killed all the good people in it?

Brainwashed heretic toasters are your friends? Tell that to all the quarians they help the Reapers kill after I block you again, traitor.