1469 réponses à ce sujet

[The Heretic of Time]

ME2 was not nearly as controversial as ME3. Not even close.

 

Trust me it was just as controversial, but focussed on other things. When it came to ME2 the fanbase was quite evenly divided. Half of the posters thought ME2 was sh!t, the other half thought it was the best game ever. Usually these two groups ended up fighting massive flame wars against each other.

Same with Paragon versus Renegade and Pro-Cerberus versus Anti-Cerberus.

But when ME3 came, all these old grudges between forum posters were buried because now we had a common cause: hating on ME3 and the ME3 endings.

[NeonFlux117]

CoD isn't that bad of a game really, I've never beaten CoD and said, " wow that Space Brat, makes no sense" Or, " I think this particular color pallet should be my ending".

[NeonFlux117]

Trust me it was just as controversial, but focussed on other things. When it came to ME2 the fanbase was quite evenly divided. Half of the posters thought ME2 was sh!t, the other half thought it was the best game ever. Usually these two groups ended up fighting massive flame wars against each other.
Same with Paragon versus Renegade and Pro-Cerberus versus Anti-Cerberus.
But when ME3 came, all these old grudges between forum posters were buried because now we had a common cause: hating on ME3 and the ME3 endings.

Okay maybe to like the 10 people on BSN it was controversial. But ME3 was headline news on every game site clear tell the EC was released. Even mainstream news outlets covered it.

[Grieving Natashina]

CoD isn't that bad of a game really, I've never beaten CoD and said, " wow that Space Brat, makes no sense" Or, " I think this particular color pallet should be my ending".

CoD has had a few great stories too, so the idea that folks that prefer MP because they don't like a good story is wrong.  It's another odd bit of conceit: "MP players don't like deep plots in their games."  Why, because some prefer killing with friends in a match rather than in the main single player campaign?  Just another thing I don't understand.

[dreamgazer]

CoD isn't that bad of a game really, I've never beaten CoD and said, " wow that Space Brat, makes no sense" Or, " I think this particular color pallet should be my ending".

No different than the nonsensical organic-inorganic Space Terminator and the choice of red or blue backgrounds behind TIM, really.

[The Heretic of Time]

CoD isn't that bad of a game really, I've never beaten CoD and said, " wow that Space Brat, makes no sense" Or, " I think this particular color pallet should be my ending".

 

The Black Ops series is actually really good. The gameplay is just straight-forward dull shooting, but the story is really good and Black Ops 2 actually had better choices and consequences than any Mass Effect game so far. Better politics too, thought that's not that surprising nor a difficult thing to achieve, ME's politics are like they're written by a 5 years old.

[NeonFlux117]

CoD has had a few great stories too, so the idea that folks that prefer MP because they don't like a good story is wrong.  It's another odd bit of conceit: "MP players don't like deep plots in their games."  Why, because some prefer killing with friends in a match rather than in the main single player campaign?  Just another thing I don't understand.

Yes. New Order was fantastic, Old Blood was pretty good to.

I always liked Soap and Price....

[Seboist]

CoD isn't that bad of a game really, I've never beaten CoD and said, " wow that Space Brat, makes no sense" Or, " I think this particular color pallet should be my ending".

 

Also in CoD you don't see something as stupid as Captain Price putting the fight against Makarov on hold so he can go solve Soap's daddy issues.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

If nothing else, I know one thing me and at least some folks in the MP crowd have in common:  Few things in the series are as satisfying as that lovely glass-breaking sound of a frozen enemy shattered by a Concussion Shot.

 

You have no idea how well you would fit in! 

 

 

 

Just don't tell Boog13 at first.

 

That was an MP forum in-joke.

[NeonFlux117]

Also in CoD you don't see something as stupid as Captain Price putting the fight against Makarov on hold so he can go solve Soap's daddy issues.

Mass Effect needed more Modern Warfare logic....

Spread the word.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

CoD isn't that bad of a game really, I've never beaten CoD and said, " wow that Space Brat, makes no sense" Or, " I think this particular color pallet should be my ending".

 

 

I was about to say something about how I enjoy CoD and never understood it as an insult, but whatever I was going to say wasn't going to be as good.

[NeonFlux117]

The Black Ops series is actually really good. The gameplay is just straight-forward dull shooting, but the story is really good and Black Ops 2 actually had better choices and consequences than any Mass Effect game so far. Better politics too, thought that's not that surprising nor a difficult thing to achieve, ME's politics are like they're written by a 5 years old.

Black Ops 1 was very good and the JFK twist at the end and MK Ultra stuff..... Very cool.

BLOPS was also the last good CoD MP.

[Grieving Natashina]

Yes. New Order was fantastic, Old Blood was pretty good to.

I always liked Soap and Price....

Soap and Price? Never heard of it.  Mind passing me a link to a good review?  Even if it doesn't look appealing to me, I will let Sasquatch (my hubby) know about it.

 

I had to start on the The New Order, because to be honest, I don't play a lot of shooters.  In fact, ME was the first of any kind of shooter I had played since Doom 2, barring some COD on the PS3.  I'm also not used to console controls.  I have nothing against console games or those that play them, I'm just far more comfortable with my gaming mouse and keyboard.  Great story, some of the best video game voice acting I've ever heard, and the controls are very comfy once you get used to them.  I know if it wasn't for the Sasquatch's love of the games, I wouldn't have tried it.  However, it's got a well-thoughout story, it does have some story choices and again, dat voice acting.  

 

Also, MEMP does tie into the story too.  Those "strike teams to secure the area" come from somewhere, so as far as I'm concerned, the MP crowd is as much apart of the main story as those that only play SP.  That part I found really neat and something I would like to see more of.  If a game has MP, then I love having those two tied together.  I don't like one completely shutting out the other, but I think there can be some great ways to give everyone more incentive to try both modes.  That is, if they feel that the SP story or the MP maps are worth it.

 

For those that play both and enjoy it, they are getting the most out of their experience.

 

 

You have no idea how well you would fit in! 

 

 

 

Just don't tell Boog13 at first.

 

That was an MP forum in-joke.

I'll take that as a compliment, good sir.  

[NeonFlux117]

Soap and Price are the main protagonists of the Modern Warfare trilogy.

They are the dynamic duo of Bad Assery.

[DaemionMoadrin]

 

You have no idea how well you would fit in! 

 

 

 

Just don't tell Boog13 at first.

 

That was an MP forum in-joke.

 

Bwahahahaha.

[Ashevajak]

Press F to pay respects to galaxy.

 

Immersive next gen varren AI.

[NeonFlux117]

Press F to pay respects to galaxy.
 
Immersive next gen varren AI.

As long as I got my Mountain Dew and Doritos.... I'm cool with that.

[Grieving Natashina]

Soap and Price are the main protagonists of the Modern Warfare trilogy.

They are the dynamic duo of Bad Assery.

Noted.  I'll pass that along and see if Sasquatch is interested in checking it out.   Thanks for the recommendation.  I'm never going to get a chance to sit down and dig into Wolfenstein if I don't find something to distract the Sasquatch with.  

 

 

As long as I got my Mountain Dew and Doritos.... I'm cool with that.

Dr. Pepper and Sun Chips for me.  Almost 30 years of playing D&D and I never got the taste for Mountain Dew.  

 

I really think that we can all get along with we put some of the silliness aside.  Overall, I think the BSN is a pretty good place.  Over a year of being on this site hasn't changed that view for me.  One thing is for sure, BioWare fans tend to be very passionate and when it's more about joking and fun and interesting conversation other than real insults, this is a nice little site.   

 

MP and SP unite!  GO TEAM VENTURE!

[PresidentVorchaMasterBaits]

GRRRAAAAAAAAGHH!!! PEOPLE JUST SILLY IN GENERAL! NEVER TAKE THEM SERIOUSLY! WE TALK LIKE VORCHA! IF PEOPLE EVER TOOK US SERIOUSLY THEN THOSE PEOPLE DUMBER THAN VORCHA! AND WE STUPID! VORCHA ENJOY BOTH SP AND MP! GRRRAAAAAAAAAAGGHH!!!!! WE'RE CONFUSED NOW! WHAT HAPPENED?!? VORCHA DOESN'T EVEN REMEMBER WHAT THREAD IS ABOUT!! WE GO NOW!!!.................AND LEAVE TRAIL OF BURNING FECES BEHIND US!

[Grieving Natashina]

You should have seen Mark Meer doing his vorcha voice at DCC, VMB.  It would have brought a tear to your eye.  He's also a very nice guy in general too.

[PresidentVorchaMasterBaits]

YES! YES! MARK MEER AND VORCHA ONE IN THE SAME!! WE'RE CONNECTED!!! IT'S LIKE VORCHA WAS SHEPARD IN TRILOGY! THAT'S WHY VORCHA SHOULD BE MAIN HERO IN NEXT GAME!!! WE BURN THINGS THIS TIME TO PREVENT BAD ENDINGS BEFORE THEY HAPPEN!!

[Grieving Natashina]

Pretty off-topic at this point, but I still want to have a Vorcha squadmate.  I mean, talk about a handy race to have if you're going into the Unknown.  They don't live long, but they've proven to be capable of being very smart ("I may be ambitious, but I'm not crazy."), they are extremely resilent if not immune to a lot of very toxic radiation and diseases.  The regeneration is annoying at times as Shep (though I admire them for it,) and they are pretty vicious in combat.  I would love if SP got a Vorcha squadmate and MP allowed you to play as a Vorcha.  That would be a lot of fun.  

 

This is why I think both gameplay modes can live in harmony.  If someone wants to walk into the shoes of a Turian or Quarian or Asari, MP allows players to expand, yes expand, their RP experience.  Some have talked about that they felt like they knew the lore and the story even more because they experienced the MP maps in the shoes of someone other than the Mighty Shepard.

 

This also gives design team some freedom to play around with difference races for the player outside of MP.  The one area that I think the SP and MP team really overlaps seems to be the art design.  Without SP and the lore that it brings, we wouldn't care as much about finding the Vorcha awesome, or asking to be a Krogan Female Battlemaster, which I have done and that would get me into MP in a heartbeat.  Krogan are awesome, female Krogan are the best.  

 

Without MP, MESP probably wouldn't be as complete of a story in my opinion.  The non-heroes of the story get their chance to shine, and makes those mentioned "strike teams" something the player can take part in.  Without MESP, the MP side of it would be an alien shooter with a pretty bare bones plot.  I know the ME series plot has been discussed, dissected and pretty much taken entirely apart.  I don't think we'd be doing those things in either "camp" if it hadn't meant something to us somehow.  Even with the folks that now hate the series for various reasons, it's obvious it meant enough to them that they still discuss and debate about it years later.

 

Both gameplay modes make for a stronger game for the ME series.  I'm glad to see that so many people felt strongly enough to play the series and keep playing the series no matter what.  

[Cyberstrike nTo]

Okay maybe to like the 10 people on BSN it was controversial. But ME3 was headline news on every game site clear tell the EC was released. Even mainstream news outlets covered it.

 

So did the sex scene in ME1 if you consider Fox News an actual news outlet. 

[KallenX]

I don't understand this kind of thread.  It's all the same universe with the application of the SP's great connected 'universe' and the MP offering more of the combat rush that the SP gives.

 

Who really cares if BW puts out a spin off ME-MP-RPG that ties in to the whole lore.   Relive the Skyllian Blitz or some new massive war with N7 involvement.  BW has done a great job with races and skills that have integrated backgrounds that can play a part but wont hold a person back immensely if they don't learn about them,only add to the experience and make the combat more rational.

 

I really don't see a separation between MP and SP, just more game time = more value for the cash i put out.  I got a LOT more out of ME3 than BF3. I still go back to ME3 for MP, BF3 will sit unused forever now i'm guessing. Does one element have to be somehow voted as better by the community, both obviously exist just fine,and I think BW could easily integrate the MP RPG elements into a SP story mode in an even more epic manner that would extend SP play and make the occasional grind actually worth more than the immediate pewpew gratification.

 

I'm not the best MP player but last time i was on i was rankedin the top 1% simply because it's just so much fun and i can put it down at any point when life has other things i need to/want to focus on. I'll go back to it for a month then put it down and maintain the wep achievements etc i had before. 

 

BW made ME3 prob my top game ever.  Yeah the story ending was annoying but i understand why it happened that way, all things have to end,  Shepard was going to end, one way or another and if you can't accept things happen in life beyond your control, with limited options, you're not mature enough.  ME3 SP story ending was much more meaningful and intense than ME2 (yay human reaper?) and ME1 (hmm kill the undead Turian Spectre).  

 

The more i look at the ending, the less I understand how people could think every unique playthrough would yield a unique to you experience.  The technology and groups of people working on one game isn't large enough. The only way this could have been realistic is if BW released 'Chapters' which you would buy or subscribe to buy.  Seeing the reactions to DLCs, It seems people aren't ready for that.  It would be cool though as it would have kept BW staff busy in all departments and a regular cash flow.  I'd go forthat, but things like WoW where you pay monthly and get nothing new...  scam.

 

Anyway, atthe end of ME3 I felt like crap leaving my Significant romance partner behind, yet having to still get up and fight through Maurader Shields and deal with the human supremecist dick and some idiot ancient computer programme manifestation.  I did what I had to, and was able to breathe at least once more knowing i kept the universe from robo-disposal.   Initially I was pissed at all the DLC, but given the years after release, i was happy to buy them all to get back into the ME Universe. 

 

Due to this kind of experience and ongoing MP,ME3 is the one game all other games work around on my console.  MP is addictive and i can hit it whenever i want, SP is great when i want to take my mind off things without so much of the adrenalin.How could you have one without hte other?  I'd pay double for ME that put full game energy into both MP and SP into one package.  Too much to ask for, I know.

 

I have issues with MP, SP and technical quality but i understand the challenge the production team had and so far their have been ****** great.   Take my money and do what you do BW. No hurry, just do it right.

[rashie]

 

Who really cares if BW puts out a spin off ME-MP-RPG that ties in to the whole lore

I think the issue the people getting riled up with the trolling going on in this board are having, is that they believe Bioware would be wasting their dev time on it, while they should produce what they want first instead, so there's less time between each Bioware SP RPG release.