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You can't win and its already an issue and all thats out is a teaser.  The SP will always be a pain.  Go with the universally loved MP and just dump whatever is left over in SP.  ME3 was good...DAMP is garbage and a step back.  Get the train back on the tracks and lets go!

PVP 10 VS 10 OR 20 VS 20 FREAKING RAID BOSS or RAID BASES, CAPTURE THE FLAGGGG AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH



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I used to play only SP with no interest at all in MP, then one day I decided to try it and I was hooked. I have spent waaaaay more time with the MP part of ME3 than the SP part. Looking back at it now I regret that I wasted time at all on SP when I could have spent it on MP instead.

MP in ME is untapped potential. If developed further it will be the best out there



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I think the issue the people getting riled up with the trolling going on in this board are having, is that they believe Bioware would be wasting their dev time on it, while they should produce what they want first instead, so there's less time between each Bioware SP RPG release.

 

Or with demand, they could expand their crew and release more games at the same or higher quality, more often.  I'd probably buy a SP only or MP only ME game and not feel upset about it (tho i'm less likely to buy a MP standalone game unless it's incredibly rich in content and various skill based activities) but I like them being a total package together. The issue is more EA than anything, at whom we all should be directing Ire.  BW does good work esp with the constraints given. Maybe BW should consider crowdfunding, granted i'm not sure what the total cost of the ME releases have been to date. Anyone know? Are they 20 million dollar games? Shenmue raised 6 million and it's an old DC title.  The delay between releases is big, but then if BW keeps topping themselves, we all know it's worth it.  I'd think the dev time on MP can only benefit SP and SP elements only contribute to the fun of MP (for me anyway).  It's like waiting for the novel/album from your favourite writer/band, you want it so bad, but you'd rather it was amazing and waited longer than have it be something rushed for a contract obligation. 



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Yep, two kinds of people:  Those that enjoy their game without insulting others, and those that don't.

 

No.  And that was kind of rude.  Insulting to me. This is how I know you are a SP gamer.


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Pretty off-topic at this point, but I still want to have a Vorcha squadmate.  I mean, talk about a handy race to have if you're going into the Unknown.  They don't live long, but they've proven to be capable of being very smart ("I may be ambitious, but I'm not crazy."), they are extremely resilent if not immune to a lot of very toxic radiation and diseases.  The regeneration is annoying at times as Shep (though I admire them for it,) and they are pretty vicious in combat.  I would love if SP got a Vorcha squadmate and MP allowed you to play as a Vorcha.  That would be a lot of fun.   :)

 

This is why I think both gameplay modes can live in harmony.  If someone wants to walk into the shoes of a Turian or Quarian or Asari, MP allows players to expand, yes expand, their RP experience.  Some have talked about that they felt like they knew the lore and the story even more because they experienced the MP maps in the shoes of someone other than the Mighty Shepard.

 

This also gives design team some freedom to play around with difference races for the player outside of MP.  The one area that I think the SP and MP team really overlaps seems to be the art design.  Without SP and the lore that it brings, we wouldn't care as much about finding the Vorcha awesome, or asking to be a Krogan Female Battlemaster, which I have done and that would get me into MP in a heartbeat.  Krogan are awesome, female Krogan are the best.   :P

 

Without MP, MESP probably wouldn't be as complete of a story in my opinion.  The non-heroes of the story get their chance to shine, and makes those mentioned "strike teams" something the player can take part in.  Without MESP, the MP side of it would be an alien shooter with a pretty bare bones plot.  I know the ME series plot has been discussed, dissected and pretty much taken entirely apart.  I don't think we'd be doing those things in either "camp" if it hadn't meant something to us somehow.  Even with the folks that now hate the series for various reasons, it's obvious it meant enough to them that they still discuss and debate about it years later.

 

Both gameplay modes make for a stronger game for the ME series.  I'm glad to see that so many people felt strongly enough to play the series and keep playing the series no matter what.   :D

 

I always figured that....

 

MESP: the story from Shepard's point-of-view.

 

MEMP: the story from the POV as a grunt on the front lines.

 

The MEMP allowed people to experience the epic battles that were largely absent from the SP experience.  As for people blubbering that the inclusion of SP or MP will steal away precious dev time from their preferred game mode, the BSN is very good at pointing the finger at various elements of the game and blaming them for the experience not being everything they wanted it to be.  PC players blame console players, straight people blame the inclusion of gay characters, romance arcs are blamed for taking away from the "important parts," ect.  Seriously, if I hear one more dingbat claim that DAI sucked because they spent all their time writing Krem, I shall set the house on fire.   :angry: 

 

In any case, I just want a good SP story, and you don't need tons of money to pull that off.  If the story blows (again), I doubt it will have anything to do with MP, and everything to do with, ya know, the writers.


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I think the OP wants Mass Effect to be more like Halo you know with MP being Priority and a SP Campaign tacked on but isn't that a little bit extreme though judging the future of the Mass Effect Franchise off of ME3MP's Success/Popularity and while I did adore ME3MP and yes it was vastly better the the SP but I won't forsake SP because of ME3's Bad Choices/Poor Writing.

So I want both but SP has always and will always take Priority to me sorry MP Fanatics I hope you get a great MP but not at the SP's expense.
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#1007
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I think the OP wants Mass Effect to be more like Halo you know with MP being Priority and a SP Campaign tacked on

TRUTH IS OP MADE TROLL THREAD! EVERYONE ALREADY KNOW THAT SP AND MP BE MADE BY SEPARATE DEPARTMENTS! MOST PEOPLE NOTICE TROLL THREADS WHEN THEY SEE IT! GRRRRAAAGH!!! SOME DON'T! THEY'RE DUMBER THAN VORCHA! VORCHA MAY BE DUMB BUT WE'RE NOT STUPID! WE GIVE EXAMPLE OF TROLL THREAD:

 

PRETEND VORCHA MAKES NEW THREAD TITLED "NO SP! BIOWARE FOCUS ON MP! MP BETTER THAN SP!!!"

 

VORCHA THREW BAIT IN WATER! NOW WE SIT BACK AND WAIT FOR SP CRYBABY FISHES TO TAKE BITE! GRRRAAAGH!! AND WHEN THEY DO, VORCHA REEL THEM IN AND HAVE FISH FOR DINNER!!!!

 

 

NOW WE'RE HUNGRY FOR FISH!! VORCHA HEARD THERE MAY BE FISH ON PRESIDIUM WATERS! WE GO NOW!


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Not gonna lie I loved the multiplayer in me3. Co-op is my game of choice but to ignore what makes BioWare games so great is asinine. The single player story line is full of great moments. If all you want is fun multiplayer with little to no context go play destiny.


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Maybe BW should consider crowdfunding, granted i'm not sure what the total cost of the ME releases have been to date. Anyone know? Are they 20 million dollar games?


The estimates I've seen are around double that, plus marketing.

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Not gonna lie I loved the multiplayer in me3. Co-op is my game of choice but to ignore what makes BioWare games so great is asinine. The single player story line is full of great moments. If all you want is fun multiplayer with little to no context go play destiny.

 

Destiny is not fun.  MEMP is.


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Destiny and MEMP is the same thing. Asinine kids shooting at each other. Go back to CoD and Modern Warfare.


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Ashevajak

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Destiny and MEMP is the same thing. Asinine kids shooting at each other. Go back to CoD and Modern Warfare.

 

Clearly a voice worth listening to, someone who doesn't even know that ME3MP is co-op and not PvP.

 

Yours are words of wisdom that this forum sorely needs.  Please, share with us another nugget of your knowledge.


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Destiny and MEMP is the same thing. Asinine kids shooting at each other. Go back to CoD and Modern Warfare.

Yet another who compares ME3MP to Destiny. One wonders if you have played even one of them.



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Yet another who compares ME3MP to Destiny. One wonders if you have played even one of them.


What can one expect from an uneducated SP peasant who thinks CoD and Modern Warfare are two different games?
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#1015
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I liked Mass Effect for the SP, and story for a reason.

 

Last I remembered. MP games such as CoD, BF, Halo, so on where the one's with drama.


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#1016
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I think the OP wants Mass Effect to be more like Halo you know with MP being Priority and a SP Campaign tacked on

You described CoD and Battlefield more than Halo....In fact I pricked my finger because Battlefield 4's SP Campaign was so thin the tac stuch through it.



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You can't lie, mass effect 3 multiplayer was better than the single player

 

 

My SP save stops at Tuchanka, and will possibly never continue. Meanwhile, 3000 hours in MP, where the heart of the game and its denizens remain untarnished.



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Not gonna lie I loved the multiplayer in me3. Co-op is my game of choice but to ignore what makes BioWare games so great is asinine. The single player story line is full of great moments. If all you want is fun multiplayer with little to no context go play destiny.

 

 

The great moments stop at Rannoch, and are directly obviated, defenestrated and violated shortly thereafter.



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Destiny and MEMP is the same thing. Asinine kids shooting at each other. Go back to CoD and Modern Warfare.

ME3MP FANBASE IS ACTUALLY MOSTLY MADE OF OLD FARTS IN THEIR 30'S AND 40'S, MARRIED WITH KIDS! NO KIDS ALLOWED!!! WE BURN THEM ALL!!!

 

 

 

 

VORCHA EDIT- THIS THREAD STILL FUNNY!


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#1020
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Destiny and MEMP is the same thing. Asinine kids shooting at each other. Go back to CoD and Modern Warfare.

 

JustAnotherZero shouldn't you go back to CoD or Modern Warfare because clearly you're not making since of your self with those childish statements. 

 

Oh please, destiny and MEMP are 2 completely different games in the way of gameplay.



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What can one expect from an uneducated SP peasant who thinks CoD and Modern Warfare are two different games?

 

This peasant will never learn the true beauty of Mass Effect multiplayer at that rate. 

 

Ugh delinquents must be dealt with.



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Destiny and MEMP is the same thing. Asinine kids shooting at each other. Go back to CoD and Modern Warfare.

 

Absolutely agreed! ME3 coop multilayer is the same thing as cod and modern warfare team deathmatches. Truth be told i love both i still havent decided which one is better though:

 

CoD?

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or Modern Warfare?

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This tread is still going? Don't you guys have something better to do? Like play MP, SP, get a girlfriend/boyfriend, college, work, porn? :rolleyes:



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This tread is still going? Don't you guys have something better to do? Like play MP, SP, get a girlfriend/boyfriend, college, work, porn? :rolleyes:

To be fair, the thread had been dead for nearly 4 weeks before it was bumped yesterday.



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Yeah and add more micro transactions, preorder DLC, D1 DLC and do a sponsership deal with Cola, think big Bioware! You can be the next Destiny and have 15 year olds drooling to get a piece of that pie, think of all the money! 

Oh and shoe horn in a B-list actor.... Wait you did do that, hmmm call up an A-lister and see if he will do it, try Kevin Spacy