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[Synthetic Turian]

      Good idea. Bioware should abandon its SP base and concentrate on MP.

 

Btw.... what does MP stands for nowadays? Money-Play? Micro-transaction Pit? More Packs? Monkey Pays? 

 

Sorry to have to be the one who breaks this to you, but there really isn't much money in single player. After the initial sale and DLC has been completed for the campaign, that's it. But imagine if when the next single player game did come out, it was bigger and better having been heavily financed by the previous game's multiplayer income.

 

I bet you wouldn't complain then.   

[Synthetic Turian]

I actually think just about everything you say here is very wrong.

 

1. Do not advise new players to skip bronze.

 

2. A new player with a fresh manifest simply cannot be equipped for Silver. A veteran can, if they've started over with a second account, but telling someone with no equipment to "be equipped" isn't effective advice.

 

3. All new players have to be carried, period. This is not an issue - it's a co-op game. It is expected, and it's part of the learning process. I would have to say "Learn to Carry" is better advice to a veteran than "don't be carried" is to a new player.

 

4. 8 hours is way too long to have to "play a game to learn to enjoy it." If someone tried it and didn't like it, shrug and say "different strokes for different folks." The best advice to try and convince them otherwise would be to tell them to play with friends, or friendly BSNers who are willing to talk them through the finer points of the game, and help them earn more credits to make things less frustrating. 

 

And there are a tonne of BSN members who are willing to do that and can be found in the ME 3 MP forum.

 

1. He said he's played before, so he's not a new player. I also advice new players to play bronze as well.

 

2. Again, I was referring to his previous experience with the game. I have no idea how much gear he managed to acquire before he stopped playing.

 

3. And again, I don't think he's a new player. But on the subject of new players, I think the main hurdle for them is learning the objectives and enemy spawn points.

 

4. Considering how much gear is needed to properly modify your weapons and armor to increase your survivability, quickly eliminate higher level enemies and lower your "carry" rate, I'd say 8 hours is a perfect amount of time for him. For brand new players, I'd suggest even more.

 

There are also many gameplay videos on YouTube that you can use as guides to maximize your skill.

 

I highly recommend this YouTuber: https://www.youtube.com/user/Bwnci

 

He's very informative and knowledgeable. So if you didn't want to read text replies from BSN members, or friend them and play with them while they talked to like the noob that you are  I highly recommend watching MP gameplay videos. 

[KaiserShep]

It's a commitment. You get out what you put in.

 

I played MP as a quick time killer for when I just want to shoot things for a little while then do something else. There's no way that I would commit to such a long period of time in any multiplayer session, because I don't really care about co-op and have little interest in other people in the game, so for me it's basically just an assortment of arenas and various tasks like escorting drones or making slow drop-offs that serve mainly to spike the difficulty of a particular wave. But now, thanks to the Citadel DLC, I don't even bother with MP much at all. I'd rather just stack the modifiers and play against all the MP baddies there with Shepard and a team or solo. Plus there's the mirror match, which, in my opinion, is the most fun of any arena battles in the entire game.

 

The only reason for me to return to MP is for my krogan, and nothing else. 

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

1. He said he's played before, so he's not a new player. I also advice new players to play bronze as well.

 

2. Again, I was referring to his previous experience with the game. I have no idea how much gear he managed to acquire before he stopped playing.

 

3. And again, I don't think he's a new player.

 

I got only one Sentinel to lvl 20 for SP purposes and never returned to MP again.

 

That would equate to about 5 - 10 bronze games, which is less than 2 hours of actual gameplay time.

 

You acknowledge that he has played significantly less than 8 hours. I have built three different manifests, and it took me more than 8 hours to reach a point where I had the equipment to carry people in Silver each time.

 

By no imaginable standard would anyone who knows ME 3 MP consider someone with less than 8 hours anything but a "new player." We're talking about a game where most people need more than 1000 hours to max a manifest, and you're telling someone who has played 5-10 bronze games to "skip bronze and be equipped for Silver."

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

He's very informative and knowledgeable. So if you didn't want to read text replies from BSN members, or friend them and play with them while they talked to like the noob that you are  

 

Were you hoping to upset me by suggesting that I am a noob who needs help with the game?

 

[Synthetic Turian]

 

 

 

 

That would equate to about 5 - 10 bronze games, which is less than 2 hours of actual gameplay time.

 

You acknowledge that he has played significantly less than 8 hours. I have built three different manifests, and it took me more than 8 hours to reach a point where I had the equipment to carry people in Silver each time.

 

By no imaginable standard would anyone who knows ME 3 MP consider someone with less than 8 hours anything but a "new player." We're talking about a game where most people need more than 1000 hours to max a manifest, and you're telling someone who has played 5-10 bronze games to "skip bronze and be equipped for Silver."

 

 

All depends on how good you are at single player, combined with the free N7 starter pack, guaranteed to include a ultra rare weapon and character. 

 

Were you hoping to upset me by suggesting that I am a noob who needs help with the game?

 

 

Oh, no no no. I'm sure you're a beast. 

 

 

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

All depends on how good you are at single player, combined with the free N7 starter pack, guaranteed to include a ultra rare weapon and character. 

 

So now you're suggesting that playing SP prepares you for the MP? The Insanity difficulty of SP has largely been acknowledged to be between Bronze and Silver when compared to MP difficulty, meaning it wouldn't prepare you for Silver.

 

It might be amusing to see you go to the actual MP forum and try dispensing these gems of advice. My favourite of which being when you said that watching videos of someone playing MP would be be as effective for learning as actually playing it with people who know how.

 

Oh, no no no. I'm sure you're a beast.  

 

I think I might have given you a mistaken impression - I'm not concerned at all with what you think of my playing ability.

[Synthetic Turian]

I think I might have given you a mistaken impression - I'm not concerned at all with what you think of my playing ability.

 

It's a shame when a genuine comment is taken as sarcasm. Bro, I don't know how else to tell you that I seriously think that you're good at the game.    

[RUDAL]

I have to say, you got me with this discussion. 

I even went and downloaded ME3 to see what I actually did in MP

Here's my characters. OK, I did more than just one character.

As you can see I have one Adept transferred to SP and another at lvl18 then sentinel at lvl20

rest of the characters were unlocked somehow cause I don't remember playing them and definitely not Soldier cause I don't like this class since first game. 

 

Is there any way to check how many hours you've spent in MP ?

[Synthetic Turian]

I have to say, you got me with this discussion. 

I even went and downloaded ME3 to see what I actually did in MP

Here's my characters. OK, I did more than just one character.

As you can see I have one Adept transferred to SP and another at lvl18 then sentinel at lvl20

rest of the characters were unlocked somehow cause I don't remember playing them and definitely not Soldier cause I don't like this class since first game. 

 

Is there any way to check how many hours you've spent in MP ?

 

Here is where you can track your progress: http://social.bioware.com/n7hq/

 

 

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Here's my characters. OK, I did more than just one character.

As you can see I have one Adept transferred to SP and another at lvl18 then sentinel at lvl20

rest of the characters were unlocked somehow cause I don't remember playing them and definitely not Soldier cause I don't like this class since first game. 

 

Is there any way to check how many hours you've spent in MP ?

 

In fact, yes, although the results were, I confess, a little confusing.

 

I will spoiler your N7HQ, assuming that I have found the correct one.

Edit: Removed as it was the incorrect profile.

 

I can't be sure if that's actually you. If it is, and you are uncomfortable having a public forum link to your profile, let me know and I will edit it out of my post.

 

The odd thing about the link is that it seems to indicate that you have 0 games played, and 0 hours of play. It might have something to do with whether you checked the box that enables the "feedback" to EA's servers. If it is unchecked, your data would not be uploaded.

 

However, I can explain the rest based on the screenshot you provided. The characters you didn't play that are above level 1 would have received their experience from "character cards" that you received in packs, which is automatically added to all characters in that class.

 

You have one promotion on your adepts (that would be the one you used for War Assets in the single player campaign) and you most likely played the Sentinel (it's fairly difficult to reach level 20 using only character cards if you've only played about 10 games, give our take.)

 

The unlocked characters are colloquially referred to as the "Vanilla Kits" by the MP community, and they are automatically unlocked when you start playing.

[RUDAL]

I am registered everywhere as Rudal but unfortunately Origin decided that I can not use that name so I had to use Stronghold.

Here's the link to my profile http://social.biowar...old&platform=pc

 

Anyway...

This still doesn't support the idea that abandoning or minimising SP in Andromeda would be a good idea.

[Synthetic Turian]

I am registered everywhere as Rudal but unfortunately Origin decided that I can not use that name so I had to use Stronghold.

Here's the link to my profile http://social.biowar...old&platform=pc

 

Hmm: 15H 50M 33S

 

Who was it that was saying that 8 hours was too long? 

 

Great work Rudal. I hope you can get back into it. And be sure to to put that Geth shotgun and Widow to work! 

[RUDAL]

Hmm: 15H 50M 33S

 

Who was it that was saying that 8 hours was too long? 

 

Great work Rudal. I hope you can get back into it. And be sure to to put that Geth shotgun and Widow to work! 

I still prefer the N7 Hurricane  

[Synthetic Turian]

I still prefer the N7 Hurricane  

 That recoil though 

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

I am registered everywhere as Rudal but unfortunately Origin decided that I can not use that name so I had to use Stronghold.

Here's the link to my profile http://social.biowar...old&platform=pc

 

Anyway...

This still doesn't support the idea that abandoning or minimising SP in Andromeda would be a good idea.

 

So you've played a fair bit more than I would have expected, and you've even unlocked a decent number of uncommons. In that situation, an experienced player could tool around in Silver, especially using a Human Sentinel, since they don't need to rely on guns to be successful. By coincidence, I actually made a YooToob guide for the Human Sentinel demonstrating the kit as a great choice for new players for exactly that reason.

 

As far as the whole "minimizing SP" thing behind the thread, well... you've probably sorted out that it was a troll thread from the start. The MP players are, with very few exceptions, fans of the series who also played SP, and would prefer that it continue to receive the attention that it does.

 

If you ever did decide to play around in MP again, the best advice I could give would be to use the ME 3 MP forum as a resource. Simply posting a thread about being new and wanting to ask questions would position you very well, and you would probably get lots of unsolicited offers from people giving their gamertag if you wanted help playing anything above Silver. And the "Resource Library" stickied at the top of the forum will be very useful as you look for more specific details.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Hmm: 15H 50M 33S

 

Who was it that was saying that 8 hours was too long? 

 

You were the one who said that he needed to keep playing until he had 8 hours, not me.

 

I only pointed out that your advice was bad for new players, and that he is a new player (which he is.)

[RUDAL]

You were the one who said that he needed to keep playing until he had 8 hours, not me.

 

I only pointed out that your advice was bad for new players, and that he is a new player (which he is.)

Well, I'm not really a "new" player. If you look at the profile it says that last update was in March 2014 and that was when I last played ME3 which was well after I actually played any MP 

 

I don't intend to return to MP and if Andromeda will have any MP then I will probably level a character or two if it'll have any benefits in SP and won't bother again 

[Synthetic Turian]

You were the one who said that he needed to keep playing until he had 8 hours, not me.

 

I only pointed out that your advice was bad for new players, and that he is a new player (which he is.)

 

I still stand by that. I thought for some reason, he had less than 8. 

 

And my advice was never meant for new players, it was meant for him.

 

On topic: No more SP, after Andromeda. MP is much better.

[Outspokenbeef]

I loved the me3 multiplayer that i put almost 600 hours in it but i disagree can't we just have both mp and sp therefore everyone remains happy

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Well, I'm not really a "new" player. If you look at the profile it says that last update was in March 2014 and that was when I last played ME3 which was well after I actually played any MP 

 

Not a new player to Mass Effect, true, but rather to the MP arena specifically. The curve with MP is very long, which is actually a legitimate criticism of it. Players are stuck in the... err... "new" phase for quite a long time, as it generally takes dozens of hours to familiarize oneself with the basics of it, and hundreds of hours to unlock most of the guns and characters. I have a great love for the MP, but the system isn't friendly to players who are starting out with it. Coincidentally, we've been discussing that recently in the forums, and it can be hard for those of us with more than a thousand hours invested to remember how hard it was back when we only had 2 medigel no piercing mods.

 

I don't intend to return to MP and if Andromeda will have any MP then I will probably level a character or two if it'll have any benefits in SP and won't bother again 

 

That's fair enough. No one can say you didn't give it a fair chance. Granted, you didn't have much choice if you wanted to reach certain thresholds with your war assets. That is a mistake that BioWare has said they won't repeat, and I'm pretty sure they'll design ME A so that MP will not be necessary to achieve everything in SP.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

I still stand by that. I thought for some reason, he had less than 8. 

 

And my advice was never meant for new players, it was meant for him.

 

Then I will rephrase: Your advice was bad for someone with less than 8 hours, whether or not you considered them new.

 

I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you, like many, can't remember what it was like when you were that early in the process. Or perhaps you simply found MP easier than most people do.

[Synthetic Turian]

Then I will rephrase: Your advice was bad for someone with less than 8 hours, whether or not you considered them new.

 

I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you, like many, can't remember what it was like when you were that early in the process. Or perhaps you simply found MP easier than most people do.

 

Acknowledged.

[Commander Rpg]

You can't lie, mass effect 3 multiplayer was better than the single player

And it was better for the only reason it was multiplayer

 

[Synthetic Turian]

You can't lie, mass effect 3 multiplayer was better than the single player

 

Correct.