Well, I'll admit that I have gotten rustier/worse at the multiplayer. But to go from silver to gold is a whole lot more of a leap than to go from bronze to silver.
Not really. They'd both be using the same assets anyhow.
Except for pause mechanics, squad control, level design, and writing.
Except for pause mechanics, squad control, level design, and writing.
This only means that multiplayer requires less to function, since things like pause and squad control are no-no's in a multiplayer game, and writing is kept to a minimum since the missions are just co-op tasks, not to mention that there are no cut scenes at all.
Yah, I'm sure you wouldn't be saying that on gold or god forbid platinum.
The only time I kick on any difficult is when someone's clearly intending to missile glitch.
While I'm sure it's not universal I have literally never seen a kick vote not go up to 3 once one starts unless I'm supposed to be the 3rd. I'm only at a 150 ish hours so maybe once I hit 1000 I'll have a different perspective.
After nearly 2000 hours, I have to say this is not my experience- kick votes are rare, some actually getting kicked is even more rare. Even when someone is obviously attempting to missile glitch, I'll often have to send a message to one (or more) of the other players in the lobby asking them to kick.
The post to which you were replying voiced concern that focusing on SP would take resources away from MP.This only means that multiplayer requires less to function, since things like pause and squad control are no-no's in a multiplayer game, and writing is kept to a minimum since the missions are just co-op tasks, not to mention that there are no cut scenes at all.
I don't see how this really supports the idea that a focus on singleplayer will take away anything from multiplayer. Mass Effect 3 is heavily focused on the singleplayer campaign, yet everything you say you like about MP is there. You get to play alien characters in MP, you get a load of guns, extra maps and lots of different enemy types, some which don't even exist in main campaign.
The assumption I see here is more effort put into SP = less effort put into MP, but thus far I've yet to see this being the case.
I do. MP was an experiment of what could have been something much more. I never thought for a minute that they gave multiplayer full focus.
The less time Bioware has to spend making more story based content, and more multiplayer content, the better.
I would take 0 story and 20 more maps. vs 100% story and a dozen maps. Not to mention, more mods, guns, characters & classes.
You can't really base the potential of the current multiplayer in Mass Effect on anything else though. Neither you or me know what could have been if Galaxy At War was a stand alone and the SP was on it's own as well.
We have no comparisons to go off of. However, I do strongly believe that if there was a singular focus on either or, their final product would be all the better as a result. And why wouldn't it?
It's merely a hypothesis.
Plus, this game (if it expands on the American western front of expansionism) lends itself to multiplayer. Go here, defend this, attack this, escort this, hack this, help these people, investigate this, etc.
I am sure that this is not a problem for most of you but there are some people (like me) that are not particularly skilled at MP games. This in itself is not really a problem because just not being highly skilled doesn't stop you from having fun playing a game. What does stop the fun is being berated by somebody that is much better than you, being called imcompetent or worse and being kicked out of games. All of which happened to me while playing ME3MP. The game itself is pretty fun. Come on I like blowing up alien baddies as much as the next guy but I'll just continue to do it in the SP game where my abilities are not up for ridicule and the game won't kick me out if it takes me a few extra seconds to kill all the enemies. It's probably for the best then everybody gets to have the kind of fun we all want from a video game.
This is really an aberrant experience at least my my play. I have played hundred of hours on DAMP and ME3MP and can only recall 2-3 incidents of players being harangued. One of them was when ME3MP took my bronze match request and decided to switch it up and toss me into platinum match. I genuinely didn't belong in that match and the players let me know it. The only player kicks I have seen are for low level or non participation at all.
I say that and I play about 99% with randoms so it isn't like I have a select crew of friends, I'm mixing with the general population. It is unfortunate you had a bad experience.
Generally, if you are not lucky enough to have a group of friends with the same interest as you in video games, playing team based MP is shoot and miss.
You might get lucky, most of the time you won't.
As much fun as playing with friends can be, playing with randoms is many times the exact opposite.
I saw many instances of trolling, people that leave their mics open and are generating enough random noises to force you to disable voice-chat,
being part of a squad that contains two or three friends which are content to act as if no one else is in the game aside from them, etc.
At the end of the day, the social interaction part of MP games is rarely fun and more of a chore if you don't have friends with you.
I do. MP was an experiment of what could have been something much more. I never thought for a minute that they gave multiplayer full focus.
The less time Bioware has to spend making more story based content, and more multiplayer content, the better.
I would take 0 story and 20 more maps. vs 100% story and a dozen maps. Not to mention, more mods, guns, characters & classes.
You can't really base the potential of the current multiplayer in Mass Effect on anything else though. Neither you or me know what could have been if Galaxy At War was a stand alone and the SP was on it's own as well.
We have no companions to go off of. However, I do strongly believe that if there was a singular focus on either or, their final product would be all the better as a result. And why wouldn't it?
It's merely a hypothesis.
Trouble is, I'm concerned more with characters than combat, so in that respect, multiplayer is a largely anemic experience that is only good for brief playtime. If BioWare were to dare turn Mass Effect and/or Dragon Age into dedicated multiplayer games, then those franchises cease to get my investment outright. I'd really rather not lose story-driven games like the kind BioWare offer. There aren't that many out there as it is, but there's a ****-ton of multiplayer games that I could go with. Frankly, I think multiplayer is just fine being that extra feature rather than the central offering in their flagship franchises, and I hope BioWare keeps it that way.
Yah, I'm sure you wouldn't be saying that on gold or god forbid platinum.
I don't even play the other two difficulties and I hardly if ever kick. My backpack is big enough for all noobs on any diffculty to fit in and be curried to their undeserved credits provided they don't mind waiting. Only baddies kick because they don't think they can succeed without being carried. Kickvotes are for obvious douchebags like glitchers/leechers, or people who don't know how to STFU/ turn off their open mic before I find their address and kill their baby.
or people who don't know how to STFU/ turn off their open mic before I find their address and kill their baby.
Oooooh open mic'ers. I forgot to include those in my post. They are the worst. They should be destroyed.
Trouble is, I'm concerned more with characters than combat, so in that respect, multiplayer is a largely anemic experience that is only good for brief playtime. If BioWare were to dare turn Mass Effect and/or Dragon Age into dedicated multiplayer games, then those franchises cease to get my investment outright. I'd really rather not lose story-driven games like the kind BioWare offer. There aren't that many out there as it is, but there's a ****-ton of multiplayer games that I could go with. Frankly, I think multiplayer is just fine being that extra feature rather than the central offering in their flagship franchises, and I hope BioWare keeps it that way.
Couldn't disagree with you more on that.
Unless you've, at the very least, experienced, every class, character, weapon & mod, you're inevitably missing out on the full multiplayer experience. Which, I find to be more challenging than the scripted, convenient corridor cover scenarios of the SP.
And while BioWare is known for their rich story telling, I see nothing wrong with them branching out into the world of multiplayer only games. And I promise you this, if the exact amount of the invested time and energy that went to creating ME3's MP, went into a standalone game, it would end up generating far more money than their SP games, without question.
I check YouTube daily for MEMP gameplay, and I've come to realize, that not only are people still playing and enjoying it, but there are numerous newcomers that play as well. It's popularity, while not hugely publicized, is undeniable.
I hope that the rumors are true. That MEA will feature SP co-op missions. I'd be all in on that.
That may well be true, but some of us play these games for other reasons. Such as roleplaying.Couldn't disagree with you more on that.
Unless you've, at the very least, experienced, every class, character, weapon & mod, you're inevitably missing out on the full multiplayer experience. Which, I find to be more challenging than the scripted, convenient corridor cover scenarios of the SP.
This has to be the first time I've ever seen anyone say that multiplayer video games are a drama-free experience.
Oooooh open mic'ers. I forgot to include those in my post. They are the worst. They should be destroyed.
i think Shepard forgot to take them along with the reapers
This has to be the first time I've ever seen anyone say that multiplayer video games are a drama-free experience
HAHAHAHA, i couldn't agree more
multiplayer is almost like high school at times or even worst
some times online multiplayer has more drama then actual life with all those drama queens out there in the solar system
Couldn't disagree with you more on that.
Unless you've, at the very least, experienced, every class, character, weapon & mod, you're inevitably missing out on the full multiplayer experience. Which, I find to be more challenging than the scripted, convenient corridor cover scenarios of the SP.
I guess if I was actually concerned about more challenging combat, this idea might sell me, but it doesn't. I used ME3's multiplayer as a time-killer so I can shoot things and casually drop off after maybe an hour or so, which was fun for what it is, but it doesn't have the things that matter the most to me to keep my attention for very long.
And while BioWare is known for their rich story telling, I see nothing wrong with them branching out into the world of multiplayer only games. And I promise you this, if the exact amount of the invested time and energy that went to creating ME3's MP, went into a standalone game, it would end up generating far more money than their SP games, without question.
I check YouTube daily for MEMP gameplay, and I've come to realize, that not only are people still playing and enjoying it, but there are numerous newcomers that play as well. It's popularity, while not hugely publicized, is undeniable.
I see nothing wrong with them branching out into multiplayer-only games, so long as they keep that sort of thing a parsec or two away from Mass Effect and especially Dragon Age. As for generating more money, I don't see why that would matter to me. There's no personal benefit in them making more money on a product I don't want to buy.
There needs to be more variety and challenge on objective waves.
That may well be true, but some of us play these games for other reasons. Such as roleplaying.
Indeed. I'm not opposed to that at all. Its how I fell in love with Mass Effect actually.
Butthurt SP players incoming in 3...2...1...
I'll be getting MEA exclusively for the multiplayer because (hopefully) it'll be at least just as fantastic as ME3MP was/is.
Butthurt MP player is already here i see. Just buy the game, who gives a flying bj how people enjoy it
HAHAHAHA, i couldn't agree more
multiplayer is almost like high school at times or even worst
some times online multiplayer has more drama then actual life with all those drama queens out there in the solar system
I just mute people when I play. Halo has always had the worst, little kids singing into their mics and everything.
Can we romance other multiplayer gamers?
Can we romance other multiplayer gamers?
You can't.
Sure you can, the MP forum is awash in lovey-dovey marriages and grils and couples and all that lately. You just have to live in Europe and drink overpriced vodka and post pics of cheese.
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