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SP is all drama. Just put something out and focus on the MP Bioware.


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Quarian Master Race

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Nah, you just scrubby. You need to learn tactics and strategy. There no OP character options IRL. So we only put them in the MP, where everyday is fantasy island. Pick your weakest enemy and favourite map. Then glitch the azz out of it.



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*bites its head off*

Pleb, don't talk to me about tactics and strategy until you can solo plat with nothing but 360 chargescopes/noscopes



*whips krogan carrying throne litter*

*orders it go faster unless it wants the genophage*


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Pleb, don't talk to me about tactics and strategy


This isn't about strategy or tactics! Its about working as a team to accomplish your mission and pretending you're a special forces unit fighting collectors on Thessia.

Your whip is kinky btw......BREEDING REQUEST ACCEPTED!
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#1353
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It would make the wait a lot easier if someone from Bioware would confirm that the positivity of the MP community did not go unnoticed and a lot of TLC was given to it in response to this.  Of course we will still have the SP.....just with a lot less focus and the most effort put into MP.



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Less SP content won't automatically translate into better MP, so less focus wouldn't really benefit anyone. 


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I hope both the MP and SP are equal, and that one really isn't dependent on the other. I loved ME3's multiplayer and I'm sure I'll spend a good amount of time on both the MP and SP for ME:A.


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It would make the wait a lot easier if someone from Bioware would confirm that the positivity of the MP community did not go unnoticed and a lot of TLC was given to it in response to this.  Of course we will still have the SP.....just with a lot less focus and the most effort put into MP.

 

I'm sure about very little regarding ME:A, but I am sure that SP is going to be the main focus of the game even if this thread will reach 200 pages...

 

And that's a good thing really.


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Yes let it be equal. I love the SP and im going to be picking up on my MP soon again, it was a lot of fun back in the days with friends, so let it be equal, both sides are fun! I'm for one are going to be enjoying both :D


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Less SP content won't automatically translate into better MP, so less focus wouldn't really benefit anyone. 

 

How dare you be reasonable, logical and rational in this thread! Combo breaker! :P


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Fact: The more time and effort you put towards a task, the better it will be and the more it will show.

 

Fiction:  Many people (including on this forum) told others that MP would NEVER be in a Mass Effect game.  Another version of this is pretending Bioware has not seen the light and the support people STILL have for the MP to this day and will not follow up on that.  The drama after the SP trailer only further reinforces this.

 

Did I logic right?



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Killdren88

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Wait, are people really advocating for Bioware to move from SP games into more competitive MP stuff now?



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Did I logic right?

 

Are you really trying to claim that for Bioware, to leave their familiar territory (which is a focus on SP and story elements) and venture into the highly contested and highly congested field of MP shooters, is the logical thing to do from business standpoint?...

 

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The simple truth is that there is a very nice market for good SP focused RPGs, the only proof you need is the success of DA:I despite its shortcomings, oh and the even bigger success of TW3.

 

And what's great about this market is that there is very little competition in it for AAA titles.


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Fact: The more time and effort you put towards a task, the better it will be and the more it will show.

 

Fiction:  Many people (including on this forum) told others that MP would NEVER be in a Mass Effect game.  Another version of this is pretending Bioware has not seen the light and the support people STILL have for the MP to this day and will not follow up on that.  The drama after the SP trailer only further reinforces this.

 

Did I logic right?

 

Yeh, I believe very early on in development of ME1 they had "pie in the sky" hopes for MP, but they never came to fruition.  In ME2, I believe they had some hopes that it could be in that game, but that never came, either. 

 

 

Wait, are people really advocating for Bioware to move from SP games into more competitive MP stuff now?

 

Good god, I hope not.  If it does become an esport, I certainly hope that it becomes a co-op esport and not competitive one.  Although, I could really care less about esports.



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Are you really trying to claim that for Bioware, to leave their familiar territory (which is a focus on SP and story elements) and venture into the highly contested and highly congested field of MP shooters, is the logical thing to do from business standpoint?...

 

Not just yet.  For right now we just need to really dig into the CO OP MP experience and make it the best offering in the entire industry.  Which based on ME3 I think Bioware can easily achieve.  Once this is mastered then yes we can start moving in that direction.

 

MP is the future.  It where the money is.  Look at the most popular and profitable games.  It is logical from a business standpoint as well.  Most importantly their ME:A is unique in its style and would also stand out among the pack.



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MP is the future.  It where the money is.  Look at the most popular and profitable games.  It is logical from a business standpoint as well.  Most importantly their ME:A is unique in its style and would also stand out among the pack.

 

And so the logical choice is to throw people who like SP to the curb then?



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And so the logical choice is to throw people who like SP to the curb then?

 

Absolutely not.  I never said remove SP.  I have played and liked some of their SP games.  I can tell you right now that I will never again buy a Dragon Age game, but at the same time ME2 is in my top 5 games ever.

 

Many of the SP fans don't even care about the games  in truth.  If it doesn't have to do with getting laid or complaining about something then I don't see them saying much.  I don't feel there are many left that are just here for the game while MP is still going and still loved.  I just want Bioware to focus on the future and where the heart of the series is now.  I never want SP to be removed from ME.  I don't care what happens to DA.

 

From what we have seen though....SP gamers will not only buy, but even pre order in most cases.  So who cares if the game sucks?  Time and time again they complain, but only do so after they have given you the $$$$.  It's a win win as they never stop buying the games.  Use that to fuel an amazing MP game and really bring in the crowds.



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Not just yet.  For right now we just need to really dig into the CO OP MP experience and make it the best offering in the entire industry.  Which based on ME3 I think Bioware can easily achieve.  Once this is mastered then yes we can start moving in that direction.

 

MP is the future.  It where the money is.  Look at the most popular and profitable games.  It is logical from a business standpoint as well.  Most importantly their ME:A is unique in its style and would also stand out among the pack.

 

They will only end up with another dead franchise on their hands, just like with SW:TOR.

 

And there's probably more MP shooters out there that failed, than ones that really succeeded. Even those that had "great potential".

 

In any case, for me a franchise that moves into the MP-only area, simply stops being relevant.

(and that's not for lack of trying on my side to put up with the BS that comes with MP)

 

And luckily, because I'm not the only one that thinks this way, it will probably take quite a while even if you are right.


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And so the logical choice is to throw people who like SP to the curb then?

Bioware will always continue to make Sp games, it is their forte after all. The point here is that bioware should venture out more into Mp since from what we've seen of the ME3 Mp, they really have the potential to make something stellar that stands out from the crowd. That way it's a win for everyone.


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They will only end up with another dead franchise on their hands, just like with SW:TOR.

 

And there's probably more MP shooters out there that failed, than ones that really succeeded. Even those that had "great potential".

 

In any case, for me a franchise that moves into the MP-only area, simply stops being relevant.

(and that's not for lack of trying on my side to put up with the BS that comes with MP)

 

And luckily, because I'm not the only one that thinks this way, it will probably take quite a while even if you are right.

 

You are correct.  They have to make the game great.  If you don't give the people what they want in the MP world then they will turn their back on you, BUT if you do deliver then you are rolling in it.  Bioware can do this based on what evidence we have so far.  It's going to happen and I'm fine with it taking a long time to get there, I just want devs who have something to offer, like ME MP to start now.



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Also regarding taking MP seriously: If there's anything they really need to do in regards to their MP, is make connectivity seem less amateurish than it is now.

 

I understand that EA likes to cut costs, but relying on hosting and having so many connection issues, is just unacceptable at this level.



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MP is the future.  It where the money is.  Look at the most popular and profitable games.  It is logical from a business standpoint as well.  Most importantly their ME:A is unique in its style and would also stand out among the pack.

 

 

I suppose I'll just have to be an old codger that couldn't care less about the future or money. All I know is that if SP ever disappears, so will I. I actually want a more robust MP, but never at the expense of the singleplayer campaign under any circumstances, MP players and EA/BioWare's bottom line be damned. 


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It's nice to be in both camps, I love both, I can haz both and I will.
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SP will suck unless you can have spawn or adopt a Krogan.  Judging by the amount of people who don't like this idea, then I know the game they want is garbage.  This is another reason while we can have both, as long as MP is more important.  There is good taste.....and there people that don't know a good thing when they see it and have bad standards taste.  We don't want to listen to the latter.

 

If theres anything this series needs to worry about, its the future.  How many times you want to run from your problems?



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SP will suck unless you can have spawn or adopt a Krogan.  Judging by the amount of people who don't like this idea, then I know the game they want is garbage.  This is another reason while we can have both, as long as MP is more important.  There is good taste.....and there people that don't know a good thing when they see it and have bad standards taste.  We don't want to listen to the latter.

 

What.

 

I have no idea what this is, but it seems to me like all your seemingly reasonable explanations from before were just a tantrum about not getting your very particular wish.



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Mass Effect's SP has been shite after ME1. ME2 was contrived filler, ME3 was...ME3.

 

MP will save the game if it flops.


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Mass Effect's SP has been shite after ME1. ME2 was contrived filler, ME3 was...ME3.

 

MP will save the game if it flops.

 

Despite all of the trilogy's problems, it will always be the singleplayer campaign the franchise is remembered for, both good and bad. If MEA turns out to be awful, it'll just be a crap game kept on life support by multiplayer, but it'll still be crap. 


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