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I'll completely agree that MP isn't the saving grace of any game.  Especially not these games that are under 10 hours long and that have loads (sarcasm off) of multiplayer.  Which usually includes, shoot bad guys (PvP), loot stuff, repeat.

 

It is nice to have though, especially in a game like ME3.  ME3 MP was the first game that made me go, "Whoah, this isn't as near as toxic as some other games."  In fact, it ranks at the bottom of toxicity levels, and at the top of fun levels.   Think there's a connection to be made?

 

Maybe but I tend to be more skeptical. It could be but it could be that the thing only really demands communication via headsets on Gold and Platinum and even then seasoned players and teams could probably beat it without much talking.

But I will give the MP modes of both ME3 and DA:I that at least on the consoles.



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MP gamers have specific standards.  If you stab them in the back or you don't deliver what they lay out for you then they can and WILL turn their back on you.  Quite the opposite of SP.  Bioware can make garbage and SP gamers will still pre order it and throw their money at them which is why SP will always be around and always be useful.  That's not to say there aren't people in the MP community won't buy whatever the devs and commercials tell them to buy....there will always be people like that, but a large portion of it requires quality games.

 

It's a lot bigger than you or me and what we have played and what we prefer.  It's the business....the gaming industry as a whole and what makes the most $$$$.  Tell me....if you made a top 10 list of the most profitable games, how many on that list would be MP focused?  Is it good business to maximize profits?

 

I play my MP just fine.  Sure there are some loading screen issues and occasional lag here and there, but most of the time it runs perfectly fine.  Perhaps SP gamers can foot the bill for our dedicated severs because I bet DA: I (which will be the last DA i ever buy btw) taught them nothing and the cash is already on the table.

 

 

All gamers have specific standards, and all of them are willing to let go of certain things if they enjoy the game enough, and MP-focused players are no different. Look at Destiny. Here you have a game that is often criticized by players left and right as being a huge disappointment and mediocre, even by players you might interact with within the game, yet people keep coming back and the community remains active. I've yet to have trouble ever finding a group for strikes or Crucible matches, and I've been playing since the day of release.

 

These games are super accessible and don't require a long attention span, and tend to stay alive because there are other players to keep you focused and compete with. Singleplayer campaigns that exceed the double digits in hours are always in a tighter niche, no matter how good the game is, because they often require more attention than most players are willing to give (which is why the rate of completion tends to be low). 

 

SP gamers won't have to foot the bill for anything. MP players will do that themselves when they pay the subscription fee to have access to the game online. 

 

I think the best thing about ME3MP, and I suppose Destiny, is that their respective communities are pretty nice, and don't seem to be at all hostile to newbs still getting their bearings with the gameplay. 


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I'm not for the industry being how it is.  The only way something will change is if the majority of gamers spoke with the only real voice they have....their wallets.  I've seen talk about this constantly.  Still yet to see anyone actually do it on any large scale.  So we are where we are.  I have a list of developers that I straight up refuse to buy their games.  They are that bad and that broken (Bethesda games I will buy as GOTY editions out of bargain bins once they finally "fix" the game)....among other things.

 

How did you feel about how much your choices really mattered when you played ME3?  How did you like the game as a whole?  Was it better and funner or worse of a game because of MP? Are you KaiserShep 2.0?

 

I found the SP more enjoyable than the MP which as I stated was bored the hell out of me and I wouldn't have even touched the damn thing if BioWare hadn't locked the breathe scene behind the MP mode before they patched it.

 

But to your question: yeah I guess so. I felt that my choices in some outcomes mattered when I played in ME3 and DA:I for that matter.

I enjoyed the SP modes greatly I'm still playing the hell out of DA:I SP mode and feel that I gotten my money's worth and then some out of the SP mode alone. The same with Life is Strange: Season 1, Fallout 4, Gone Home, Saints Row IV, and Transformers: Devastation

 

The ONLY games where I got more value out of the MP was UNO and maybe Hydro Thunder: Hurricane because they are card game and boat racing game respectfully. I tend to play Hydro Thunder: Hurricane more as SP game now of days and I don't have UNO for my Xbox One or my PS4. So until it gets remade, or becomes backwards compatible with Xbox One and no matter how much I love UNO it's not a game that I'm going to hook my Xbox 360 up to play.



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Why would I want to be like you? I would rather be myself. I'm a loner, who has learned the hard way that I play and work faster and better on my own. Not everyone is like you or like me.  

 

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Maybe but I tend to be more skeptical. It could be but it could be that the thing only really demands communication via headsets on Gold and Platinum and even then seasoned players and teams could probably beat it without much talking.

But I will give the MP modes of both ME3 and DA:I that at least on the consoles.

 

I would never do it as I tried and get bored out of my mind by wave 6, but there are a lot of players who are just good enough that they go in and solo platinum.  And I don't just mean using the most OP and crutch characters either. (yes the collector is a really good character)

 

Here is a video of someone playing as a Collector and this isn't on PC with some heath cheats or hacks or whatever.  This is console gameplay.

 


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I would never do it as I tried and get bored out of my mind by wave 6, but there are a lot of players who are just good enough that they go in and solo platinum.  And I don't just mean using the most OP and crutch characters either. (yes the collector is a really good character)

 

Here is a video of someone playing as a Collector and this isn't on PC with some heath cheats or hacks or whatever.  This is console gameplay.

 

 

Believe it or not I already knew about that. So answer me this: What is the point of playing multiplayer alone? I thought the whole point it to play with and/or against others. Outside of bragging it's really nothing but a waste of time.

 

I would rather player a single player mode than a multiplayer solo or with other people.



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Believe it or not I already knew about that. So answer me this: What is the point of playing multiplayer alone? I thought the whole point it to play with and/or against others. Outside of bragging it's really nothing but a waste of time. That is what singleplayer for. 

 

I guess just people like you. anti social or whatever.  It's just how they want to play.  I know I don't, but I can't knock them for doing them.



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No idea what happened to this thread but I think I've made my point.

 

Anyways, still waiting for my Novaguard 1v1 with QMR.



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Believe it or not I already knew about that. So answer me this: What is the point of playing multiplayer alone? I thought the whole point it to play with and/or against others. Outside of bragging it's really nothing but a waste of time.

I would rather player a single player mode than a multiplayer solo or with other people.


It's about the challenge really, a platinum solo is a lot more demanding and challenging than anything SP have to offer, some people play it for the story I get it (I like ME SP also for that reason), but when it comes to interesting and challenging combat SP have nothing to offer while platinum soloing does.

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I would never do it as I tried and get bored out of my mind by wave 6, but there are a lot of players who are just good enough that they go in and solo platinum. And I don't just mean using the most OP and crutch characters either. (yes the collector is a really good character)

Here is a video of someone playing as a Collector and this isn't on PC with some heath cheats or hacks or whatever. This is console gameplay.

https://www.youtube....h?v=g_e4w_QaWuk


Assuming all PC players are cheaters is a pretty dumb thing to do, sure there are a few bad apples but I'm fairly sure 99,99% don't cheat at all.
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Assuming all PC players are cheaters is a pretty dumb thing to do, sure there are a few bad apples but I'm fairly sure 99,99% don't cheat at all.

 

Indeed, I played DA:I MP for awhile after release, I think I only encountered once a case where someone cheated full barrier and guard all the time.


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The day Bioware puts a focus on MP over SP is the day true Bioware ceases to exist.



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Assuming all PC players are cheaters is a pretty dumb thing to do, sure there are a few bad apples but I'm fairly sure 99,99% don't cheat at all.

 

I don't think all PC players are cheaters.

 

It is something that happens and a lot of times it comes up so I said that before or just in case it went there.  Of course also to get under some skin as well ;)



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Of course also to get under some skin as well ;)

 

Really?... You don't say... I mean, it's not like most of this thread and much of MP in general is about it... Right?



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The day Bioware puts a focus on MP over SP is the day true Bioware ceases to exist.

 

BioWare ceased to exist as anything but a name when they became a division of EA. That was some years ago.



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Really?... You don't say... I mean, it's not like most of this thread and much of MP in general is about it... Right?

 

It's what the Andramada section is about.  The majority (not all) of the people that make up this section are prime cuts.  If there has ever been a forum of people with less of a sense of humor and so incapable of not taking everything deathly serious....I have never seen it.  Even when you try to make a serious thread, it is a bust.  This section is good for one thing....at least until we actually get some info on the game.

 

MP on the other hand is about having fun, making credits, and playing/talking with people you click with.  Sure there are going to be people you don't get along with or you just hate from the jump.  That's life.  Once you find a crew that you do get along with, it makes the game 100 times better.


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I'd be happy if the Mass Effect Multiplayer was just a reskinned The Division, set on the Citadel or a similar space station city. I'd add that when you choose the race for your character it dictates what classes are available to you. As long as Drell was one of the options :)



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No idea what happened to this thread but I think I've made my point.
 
Anyways, still waiting for my Novaguard 1v1 with QMR.


R u guys gonna stream it?

Reminds me of the days gone by when folk used to Thunderdome a lot, funny threads TBH.
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Anyways, still waiting for my Novaguard 1v1 with QMR.

You actually want the thunder? All you had to do was ask. I'd thought you had ducked me earlier.....
 

 

Sorry bud, no PS3 here. If I did it would only be for Demon's.  :rolleyes:

But if you're down I think I'll be able to make time from cleaning up Rebel scum this weekend to accomodate you.


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Anyways, still waiting for my Novaguard 1v1 with QMR.

You actually want the thunder? All you had to do was ask. I'd thought you had ducked me earlier.....



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^ this. applies bowlcuts

You can then thank NextArishok standing in for you in the meanwhile. But sooner or later just get it over with man.
Earn a little bit of this :
http://en.musicplayo...m/play?v=327061

 

All hail the Queen for sure, but if you scroll up on this page I even got a few MP section jimmies :o

 

About this Novaguard thunderdome.....is there going to be a time limit?  I see playing hit and run with Banshees and Praetorians taking up a large amount of time.



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All hail the Queen for sure, but if you scroll up on this page I even got a few MP section jimmies :o
 

Oh them. 22, 15,& 13 why waste time? Send them a talk to the hand and move on:
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You actually want the thunder? All you had to do was ask. I'd thought you had ducked me earlier.....
 
 
But if you're down I think I'll be able to make time from cleaning up Rebel scum this weekend to accomodate you.


I can host it if this is happening. Don't want anyone to have that godlike on-host novaguard.
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You actually want the thunder? All you had to do was ask. I'd thought you had ducked me earlier.....
 

 

But if you're down I think I'll be able to make time from cleaning up Rebel scum this weekend to accomodate you.

 

Oi, I actually did only have my PS3 for one game at that time but that was until I got the trilogy again. Wasn't ducking I was just...telling the truth.  :ph34r:

 

Anyways, yeah, finally at level 20 so I'm ready.

 

About this Novaguard thunderdome.....is there going to be a time limit?  I see playing hit and run with Banshees and Praetorians taking up a large amount of time.

True. First one to get sync-killed takes the L.