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See what you MP COD kiddies made me do?  You made me agree with this guy.  He and I don't see eye to eye on alot of things but guess what he is absolutely correct here.

 

Well lucky for us while you 2 are holding hands as you skip around we can rest assured you are both SOL and before long we will be strapping on those N7 pads and laying waste to anything that moves while we chat it up together loving our gaming time and you guys search the game for your new star child or the character whose ass isn't proportioned right thus is an invalid romance option and an attack on the entire sexuality that you are and is a great injustice.  Then you can come back to the forum and make social justice threads while we keep playing.



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I'd never deny any of that, but it still doesn't mean that ME3MP players don't care about the franchise or that they aren't just as big fans of the franchise than SP players.

 

Do you agree or disagree?

 

Players who prioritize MP can certainly still be fans of the game. But the franchise itself is, by-and-large, an SP experience spanning three games. The MP horde-mode might be fun, but there's relatively little there to define the actual franchise, since the 'franchise' is about the ME universe, and about exploration, and decision-making (even if these choices turn out to have little effect), and character interaction. MP on its own does not really offer any of this, so I'm a bit skeptical about your proposition.

 

I'm also rather unsettled by the tone that's present in this thread, which sets up a fairly clear MP versus SP player divide, whereas I would imagine most 'MP players' are also fans of the SP experience.


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We're all fans here. Fans who are still playing ME3 multiplayer have probably clocked up more hours than most of these 'purists'. Does that make them more or less 'hardcore'?

Hours played is hardly an indication of how much of a fan you are of anything really.  Some people have more time for video games than other people.



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You can be a fan of the MP but if you start saying it should get more development than the SP then you really are not a fan of the franchise.  The SP is the franchise period.

That's ridicolous. Your opinions on the matter aren't objective truth.
You have no right to say to anybody that they aren't fans of ME If They prefer MP or wish more development for it. They're as much fans of the franchise as you.

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Well lucky for us while you 2 are holding hands as you skip around we can rest assured you are both SOL and before long we will be strapping on those N7 pads and laying waste to anything that moves while we chat it up together loving our gaming time and you guys search the game for your new star child or the character whose ass isn't proportioned right thus is an invalid romance option and an attack on the entire sexuality that you are and is a great injustice.  Then you can come back to the forum and make social justice threads while we keep playing.

Nobody brought up social justice in this thread until you did.



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Nobody brought up social justice in this thread until you did.

 

The people who hate the MP pick the game apart.  I read this forums quite frequently I know who, what, and how the posters tear this game apart.  Once they start announcing characters half of the front page will be romance threads.  Once the game is released it will be a nit pick fest.  I've seen it with ME games and I've seen it with DA games.  ME: A will be no different.

 

When there are no MP people to attack the game itself will be the target.


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That's ridicolous. Your opinions on the matter aren't objective truth.
You have no right to say to anybody that they aren't fans of ME If They prefer MP or wish more development for it. They're as much fans of the franchise as you.

Um considering that 2/3 of the games in the ME franchise that are currently on the market have absolutely zero MP content in them I can say objectively if you prefer MP content over SP content you are not a fan of the franchise.


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It's the fruit of 8 years worth of development since 04. The pure unadulterated highly evolved game mechanics on full display and where they true-ly shine which is why MP has lasting appeal for me. I Know the story inside out, I know almost every dialogue variation but the gameplay in all single-payer campaigns up to now besides ME2 insanity came on in leaps and bounds but is today horridly unsatisfying. I can't bare it any longer besides modding in multiplayer powers and messing around with the ini files.

 

ME3 gold and platinum for me is how the game is meant to be played and if you haven't experienced it properly then you don't know really what you are talking about and i'm done talking to you.


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I'm also rather unsettled by the tone that's present in this thread, which sets up a fairly clear MP versus SP player divide, whereas I would imagine most 'MP players' are also fans of the SP experience.

 

Hint: they are. But don't go telling the wrong people or you'll spoil the fun!


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Um considering that 2/3 of the games in the ME franchise that are currently on the market have absolutely zero MP content in them I can say objectively if you prefer MP content over SP content you are not a fan of the franchise.

 

You know you're getting good at this fast.  Perhaps consider converting.  MP fans are hard to troll, but you have a knack for it.  You could provide some good comic relief.


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You know you're getting good at this fast.  Perhaps consider converting.  MP fans are hard to troll, but you have a knack for it.  You could provide some good comic relief.

 

Maybe he can be the new Bonecold. Who knows, right?


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The people who hate the MP pick the game apart.  I read this forums quite frequently I know who, what, and how the posters tear this game apart.  Once they start announcing characters half of the front page will be romance threads.  Once the game is released it will be a nit pick fest.  I've seen it with ME games and I've seen it with DA games.  ME: A will be no different.

 

When there are no MP people to attack the game itself will be the target.

 

Way too lump all the SP fans in the same boat.  I have done nothing but defend the games.  But one thing that unites all SP gamers is that we don't want to see our beloved SP franchise go the way of CoD and so many other generic cookie cutter franchises.  I love ME because it holds my interest and that is because of the dedication that the Shepard trilogy had for it's SP content.  One reason why the ME 3 endings were so controversial and why they got people so fired up in the first place is because people actually gave a damn about their Shepard's story that is a testament to what a dedicated SP franchise can do it can make people passionate about it.  When was the last time anyone gave a damn about CoD's characters or story?


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You know you're getting good at this fast.  Perhaps consider converting.  MP fans are hard to troll, but you have a knack for it.  You could provide some good comic relief.

 

I think he just might be starting to repeat himself, though. A little bit.


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Way too lump all the SP fans in the same boat.  I have done nothing but defend the games.  But one thing that unites all SP gamers is that we don't want to see our beloved SP franchise go the way of CoD and so many other generic cookie cutter franchises.  I love ME because it holds my interest and that is because of the dedication that the Shepard trilogy had for it's SP content.  One reason why the ME 3 endings were so controversial and why they got people so fired up in the first place is because people actually gave a damn about their Shepard's story that is a testament to what a dedicated SP franchise can do it can make people passionate about it.  When was the last time anyone gave a damn about CoD's characters or story?

 

In the thread asking for your favorite games ever I named ME2 in my top 5.  I can appreciate a good SP, but I will always prefer MP.

 

You lumped yourself when you said you supported John Shepard.  I wasn't referring to all SP fans, just a large amount of the ones that post here.  Not all of them, but a majority.  Those "Star child" threads were massive.



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I really didn't want MP in Mass Effect yet ended up loving it. Whilst I agree with all the comments about it really being an SP series the MP is the one thing that I don't have (much) pessimism about for ME:A and I'm looking forward to playing it with the people I'm still playing ME:3 MP with.


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Um considering that 2/3 of the games in the ME franchise that are currently on the market have absolutely zero MP content in them I can say objectively if you prefer MP content over SP content you are not a fan of the franchise.

No, it doesn't. What you're saying makes no sense. The fact that one prefers MP doesn't mean They don't like SP or doesn't love the lore and characters of the franchise.
Beside, many already stated that They were fan of ME Since the first game, but came to prefer MP over SP in ME3 for their problems with SP in Me3 (or because they love MP). Why on Earth shouldn't They be considered fans?

You know you're getting good at this fast. Perhaps consider converting. MP fans are hard to troll, but you have a knack for it. You could provide some good comic relief.

I actually prefer SP over MP.
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Um considering that 2/3 of the games in the ME franchise that are currently on the market have absolutely zero MP content in them I can say objectively if you prefer MP content over SP content you are not a fan of the franchise.

I have a dozen playthroughs of ME1 and ME2, and I love those games.  However, I have gotten much more enjoyment and play out of ME3MP than I did any of the SP games.  If the ending had been better, I'm not sure that is the case. I am getting tired of the arrogance and elitism of the MP haters though. Neither this forum or ME belongs exclusively to you, and being a fan of MP does not mean that you hate SP, they aren't and never will be mutually exclusive.


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I have a dozen playthroughs of ME1 and ME2, and I love those games.  However, I have gotten much more enjoyment and play out of ME3MP than I did any of the SP games.  If the ending had been better, I'm not sure that is the case. I am getting tired of the arrogance and elitism of the MP haters though. Neither this forum or ME belongs exclusively to you, and being a fan of MP does not mean that you hate SP, they aren't and never will be mutually exclusive.

 

Theres also no reason to be intimidated to play it with other people.  For 1 there are actual forum groups from here that are designed specifically for players that are new and clueless to group together and learn as a unit.  You aren't born being good at something.  You have to actually give it a chance before you can get good at it.  It's not hard in the first place if you take the first step.  The game has bronze for a reason.  It just like novice in the SP.  Oh no though that won't do.  It's be closed minded and arrogant about it.

 

IF you were a REAL fan you would enjoy and appreciate ALL the Developer and game had to offer you.  You wouldn't bash people who support the same thing you support.  And why do you really care if someone is mean to you?  That's just a sign it might be time to grow up a little bit.  Things random names say to you on the internet shouldn't even give you a second thought.  Mute or block them and move on.  People chose to MAKE it an issue when all the tools are there to give it a fair shot if you stop refusing.

 

Does that mean you can't be a fan if you hate the MP?  No, but when you don't even give it a chance and then berate those that do? Come on now.  You either like Mass Effect or you don't.  Like it not.  Kicking and screaming or not MP is now a part of ME and it is here to stay.  Fighting it and getting mad about it has no point.  I bet if some got off their high horse they would kick themselves because of how much they enjoy it.



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So if MP players come in here and start yelling from the roof tops that they want MP development to be a priority over SP then I have to make sure to outyell them and I will as will other SP fans.

 

Ugh make the MP forum already so we can get some decent threads in the real MEA forum.

 

Oh, I can see you are a clear, logical thinker.

 

You can be a fan of the MP but if you start saying it should get more development than the SP then you really are not a fan of the franchise.  The SP is the franchise period.

 

Ooh, I love throwing logic under a train. I can do this, too! "The ending is the franchise, period." Oops, looks like we can all go home, now.

 

Um considering that 2/3 of the games in the ME franchise that are currently on the market have absolutely zero MP content in them I can say objectively if you prefer MP content over SP content you are not a fan of the franchise.

 

Bam! You really want authority over who is or isn't a fan of the franchise. Now start telling us who are, and aren't, "real gamers."


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Let's not have another Destiny where it's all MP and no story. 


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Theres also no reason to be intimidated to play it with other people.  For 1 there are actual forum groups from here that are designed specifically for players that are new and clueless to group together and learn as a unit.  You aren't born being good at something.  You have to actually give it a chance before you can get good at it.  It's not hard in the first place if you take the first step.  The game has bronze for a reason.  It just like novice in the SP.  Oh no though that won't do.  It's be closed minded and arrogant about it.

 

IF you were a REAL fan you would enjoy and appreciate ALL the Developer and game had to offer you.  You wouldn't bash people who support the same thing you support.  And why do you really care if someone is mean to you?  That's just a sign it might be time to grow up a little bit.  Things random names say to you on the internet shouldn't even give you a second thought.  Mute or block them and move on.  People chose to MAKE it an issue when all the tools are there to give it a fair shot if you stop refusing.

 

Does that mean you can't be a fan if you hate the MP?  No, but when you don't even give it a chance and then berate those that do? Come on now.  You either like Mass Effect or you don't.  Like it not.  Kicking and screaming or not MP is now a part of ME and it is here to stay.  Fighting it and getting mad about it has no point.  I bet if some got off their high horse they would kick themselves because of how much they enjoy it.

Why are you replying to me? I'm not the one who said MP fans can't be true fans.  Check my N7HQ, I play the MP plenty.



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Why are you replying to me? I'm not the one who said MP fans can't be true fans.  Check my N7HQ, I play the MP plenty.

 

I wasn't replying at you.  I was adding my 2 cents and supporting the part of your post where you said

 

"I am getting tired of the arrogance and elitism of the MP haters though. Neither this forum or ME belongs exclusively to you, and being a fan of MP does not mean that you hate SP, they aren't and never will be mutually exclusive."

 

I was talking to all the people saying to shuffle us off to the MP section or don't include MP in the game and things like that.


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ME franchise post ME3 ending is doomed. All of the ending possibilities are too divergent, there was no room left for any meaningful continuation. They had to move to another galaxy and, judging by the teaser, it looks more like a spin-off than a truly relevant addition to the franchise.
If Bioware can make a good SP game, kudos to them, but I will remain pessimist about it until the I play the game to completion.

As for the possible MP portion of the game, I can't help not to be on the hype. ME3MP was (and still is) fantastic and DAMP is pretty good.


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The people who hate the MP pick the game apart.  I read this forums quite frequently I know who, what, and how the posters tear this game apart.  Once they start announcing characters half of the front page will be romance threads.  Once the game is released it will be a nit pick fest.  I've seen it with ME games and I've seen it with DA games.  ME: A will be no different.
 
When there are no MP people to attack the game itself will be the target.


And people who love the MP pick the game apart too. So I'm not sure what your point is. People always pick games apart.

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Way too lump all the SP fans in the same boat.  I have done nothing but defend the games.  But one thing that unites all SP gamers is that we don't want to see our beloved SP franchise go the way of CoD and so many other generic cookie cutter franchises.  I love ME because it holds my interest and that is because of the dedication that the Shepard trilogy had for it's SP content.  One reason why the ME 3 endings were so controversial and why they got people so fired up in the first place is because people actually gave a damn about their Shepard's story that is a testament to what a dedicated SP franchise can do it can make people passionate about it.  When was the last time anyone gave a damn about CoD's characters or story?

Like you aren't lumping all MP players of every game in existence into the same boat by conflating a 4 player TPS/RPG Co-Op hybrid to a 20+ player competitive FPS.

Funny you mention CoD, because in the last one I played through, Raul Mendez was a much better antagonist with more sensible motivations and less contrived idiot ball moments than starbrat or the Reapers despite the SP component of those games mostly being the videogame equivalent of Michael Bay popcorn films. For all your criticsms, their paper thin plots are often much more grounded and relatable than than hammy "Space Jesus singlehandedly saves the universe from space Cthulu by teaching everyone to love".

Why are you trying to take an intellectual high ground when you play a game that has an entire species of aliens composed of human looking, often scantily clad blue female supermodels? The series is fun and the characters are often compellingly well written, but it isn't Dostoyevsky. Get over yourself.


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