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[Arete0483]

So I decided to pick up Dragonage recently at Gamestop.  I have NEVER been into RPGs but the guy at gamestop talked it up, I've read great reviews, and the vids I've seen on Youtube look really really good. 

 

Most of my characters are level 6 and I don't know what to do!   I keep fighting these demon things that shoot ice.  I'm trying to remember what exactly they are called but they basically kill me and my whole party instantly.   They hang around the rifts which it seems no matter how hard I try I can't "disrupt" them.  What gives?  Do I just skip them until I get stronger? Now about weapons and armor.   What is the best way to go about this in this game?  Schematics or just finding it in quests?   It seems very time consuming to aquire gold.  I've been playing for hours and most of my characters are using the same items they started with.  Am I doing something wrong?  I'm unsure of whether I should save my gold and look for my gear or use the schematics?   Suggestions.  

 

I just want to know I'm on the right track with the game.   The size of the world and the fact that I've never really played RPGs makes it a bit difficult.   Oh and when can I fight the dragons?   As it stands now I think they would cream me.  Just curious.  Any advice for someone new to this game would be appreciated.  I just feel a little lost I guess.  

 

Does anyone think the witcher 3 may be a bit better for a beginner?  I have 7 days to take the game back and get store credit.  Thanks in advance for your help. 

[Gileadan]

First, welcome to a new and awesome genre!

I'm at work and typing on mobile, so I can't be very thorough with my reply.

First, the ice shooting demon things. What class is your character? I played a 2-hand warrior and used grappling chain to reel them in Scorpion style. That was generally a good way to mess with ranged enemies. Also, try pausing your game and manually ordering your ranged party members to focus fire those annoying little wretches.

Schematics are the best way to good gear because the stuff you craft with it won't have level requirements. Sadly lots of schematics are randomly looted, so save your game when you find a good one.

I killed my first dragon at lvl 12 but it wasn't pretty.

Witcher 3 has more actiony combat where you play a single, pre-determined character instead of a self-created protagonist with a party. It is largely a matter of taste and preference, though in my opinion Witcher 3 comes with clearly bigger production values. I'd actually encourage you to try both games.

[Magdalena11]

Welcome aboard!  Fantastic game.  This series is my first video game experience too, so I know how hard it is to remember everything.

 

The advice above is good, and I'd like to add a suggestion.  The ice shooting things are despair demons, and they are cold-based creatures, so a fire staff and cold protection are ideal against them.  They're probably way too strong for a level 6 party, but don't worry about it.  They'll wait for you until you're ready.

 

To see what type of creature you're dealing with and what it's vulnerabilities and strengths are, switch to tactical camera and hover over the creature.  You'll get a block of very small text describing the above, as well as status effects that you can play around with when you're more familiar with the game.

 

It's really hard to learn the game and how it works too, so don't rush yourself.  I was on my second full playthrough of DAI before I felt reasonably comfortable with the controls, and still enjoyed playing, even the combat.  Now, the schematics and status effects and playing in real time are tremendous fun, but in the beginning, it was really cool learning how things work and getting the lay of the land.

 

PS  I think I was level 9 or 10 before I finally figured out how the upgrade table worked, and I still forget to check to make sure all my gear is current, or even if I have the appropriate stuff equipped at all.  Even if you don't have the best tools for the job, sometimes coming up with creative solutions is more fun anyway.

[Gileadan]

Oh, good addition! Elements indeed oppose each other. If it looks icy, burn it, if it looks fiery, shoot some ice spikes up its rear.

Also, if you decide to get into crafting and pick your item's stats, keep the character's class in mind. The first three attributes, namely strength, dexterity and intelligence, are much more useful for warriors, rogues and mages respectively. Constitution, cunning and willpower are useful for all classes. So if you are making an item and a slot lets you pick between dexterity and cunning and the character you're making it for is not a rogue, pick cunning.

[Rascoth]

Ooooh, new player! Welcome, welcome! 

 

Getting rid of Despair Demons (because I'm pretty sure those are demons we're talking about) is one of the first things I normally do. I find taking them down with fire spells and archers easy, if you focus your and your companions' attention on them, just as Gileadan said. Still, I hate those little sh*ts... Sorry.

 

Rifts can be a pain at the beginning. Every attack your character takes stops disturbing. Which means if you want to disturb a rift, all enemies must concentrate on your companions. Rogues have it easy, since they can use stealth, but having a warrior to get all enemies away from you is also possible. In most cases you don't need to disturb the rift. What you need to do is to kill all demons (there are usually two waves of them) and then close the rift.

 

For schematics... It's true that you can get better gear, without level requirement and stats you want, but if you're playing on lower difficulties it shouldn't be that hard to survive on gear you loot from chests scattered around Thedas. And believe me, they can be everywhere. Even after all those playthroughs I have I end up finding new ones from time to time (this happened yesterday).

 

Most people fight dragons after reaching the same level as said dragon or a bit higher. But to tell the truth that depends on a person and what kind of party they've built. Magdalena beautifully explained how you can learn enemies' weaknesses from tac cam view and that is really useful while fighting dragons. For someone who's playing for the first time I would leave dragon fights for later, when you're more accustomed with game mechanics.

 

It's true that for someone who has never played RPG this game can be a little bit overwhelming. For starters I would advise following main quests, which are listed under "Inquisitor's Path" in quest journal. While doing them you can pick side quests which direct you to different locations. Fortunately most quests have quest markers, I don't even want to think how this game would look like without them... Brrr...

 

Keep in mind that not all areas all connected. For example you can never visit some areas and still do all main quests and companion quests (which I also recommend to do if you get them). 

 

As for The Witcher 3... Those are two different games from two different companies. You'll hear voices that you should play DA:I and you'll hear voices you should play TW3. The best would be to try them both and then pick which you prefer (or maybe you'll like both, or none), but I'm aware that not everyone can do that. For now, since you already have it, I would give DA:I a try.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Inquisition is a terrific RPG, but it does throw a fair amount of complexity at you all at once, so I'm not surprised someone new to the genre is struggling.

First of all, do you remember during the tutorial when the game taught you how to use the tactical camera? The targeting reticule there is your friend, because it can tell you how powerful your opponent is. I mention this because I'm pretty sure the least powerful Despair Demon in the game is level 8, and there are some in the Hinterlands which are level 12. You don't want to fight them yet.

The content is this game is spread around in a non-linear fashion, so you won't necessarily be able to defeat everything in the order in which you meet it. Use the tactical camera to gauge the level of your opponents before fighting them so you can choose defeatable enemies.

Also in the tutorial (at the end), there was a fight against a huge demon at a rift. You would have needed to disrupt his rift in order to defeat him. Disrupting rifts is extremely useful, but your attempts to do so can be interrupted. If your character gets hit while trying to disrupt a rift, the attempt will fail.

So, you need the other characters in your party to get the enemies' attention so your character will be free to disrupt the rift. Having them attack first is a good way to do that.

Please come back if you have any more questions.

[KilrB]

If you are not experiencing any technical difficulties, stick with it.

 

You've gotten some pretty good advice so far.

 

Explore the forum and you will find more good advice on builds, equipment, etc.

 

In spite of the complaints you will find here, it's a decent game and a good intro to rpg's.

 

Wait on TW3 until it comes down in price and you finish DA:I.

[Elhanan]

So I decided to pick up Dragonage recently at Gamestop.  I have NEVER been into RPGs but the guy at gamestop talked it up, I've read great reviews, and the vids I've seen on Youtube look really really good. 
 
Most of my characters are level 6 and I don't know what to do!   I keep fighting these demon things that shoot ice.  I'm trying to remember what exactly they are called but they basically kill me and my whole party instantly.   They hang around the rifts which it seems no matter how hard I try I can't "disrupt" them.  What gives?  Do I just skip them until I get stronger? Now about weapons and armor.   What is the best way to go about this in this game?  Schematics or just finding it in quests?   It seems very time consuming to aquire gold.  I've been playing for hours and most of my characters are using the same items they started with.  Am I doing something wrong?  I'm unsure of whether I should save my gold and look for my gear or use the schematics?   Suggestions.  
 
I just want to know I'm on the right track with the game.   The size of the world and the fact that I've never really played RPGs makes it a bit difficult.   Oh and when can I fight the dragons?   As it stands now I think they would cream me.  Just curious.  Any advice for someone new to this game would be appreciated.  I just feel a little lost I guess.  
 
Does anyone think the witcher 3 may be a bit better for a beginner?  I have 7 days to take the game back and get store credit.  Thanks in advance for your help.

Perhaps returning to Haven and discovering other areas might be helpful. Gaining experience elsewhere and returning to battle certain rifts is recommended. Also advise having Dispel Magic for all Mages; helps close rifts a lot faster.

The best gear is crafted, but the better schematics lie in higher level environs. Good gear can be found (am a fan of the treasures found using Astrariums), and utilizing lesser schematics can also get one to the top tier eventually. My Mage used three crafted sets along the way, plus dressed in some looted attire, too.

Recommend saving gold and only purchase accessories for the Companions; discovered gear will do for them very well, as will hand me downs of your own crafted gear occasionally.

Dragons are optional, and should not be attempted until 12+ lvl, IMO. Remember: retreating is a viable tactical choice.

As for RPG's in general, play the personality you deem fitting for the Inquisitor. I recommend adding some dialogue options with the Codex bonus perks gained from Influence to aid both conversation and XP.

Enjoy!

[Sylvius the Mad]

One of the enemies I found most irritating at warly rifts was Wraiths. They attacked at range (thus interrupting disrupt attempts), and cast barrier on themselves which made them harder to kill.

But they don't have much health. If you start the encounter (before they've cast barrier) by shooting one with Long Shot (Varric has this ability - he's the dwarf with the crossbow), you can usually kill it immediately, thus significantly reducing the difficulty of the rest of the encounter.

[Arete0483]

Thanks everyone for all your tips! I will say though this technically isn't my first RPG experience. Anyone remember Shining Force? Yeah, kinda shows my age. Haha. Anyways, I'm stoked to dig into the game. I'm a little over games that I can beat in several hours. At least with this game i will hopefully get many hours of enjoyment out of it.

The tactical camera thing seems a bit tricky. Is there a useful tutorial or any tips you guys may have on using it?

Oh and someone asked what kind of character I have. I'm using a human warrior and picked one handed with shield. I'm regretting not going with a rogue at this point. I can see where being far away may be a bit easier to deal with. Should I start over and go with a rouge or Mage? I mean I want a challenge but An enjoyable challenge if that makes sense. ;-)

When do I get to stronghold in the game? I've seen videos of the "inquisitor" on YouTube making judgements like in a trial. When do I get to do that? When am I appointed the role of "inquisitor"??

I know lots of questions. Thanks again everyone for your tips. I'm ready to be off work so I can play some more. :-P

[caradoc2000]

Anyways, I'm stoked to dig into the game. I'm a little over games that I can beat in several hours. At least with this game i will hopefully get many hours of enjoyment out of it.

My first playthrough was just under 190 hours.
 

When do I get to stronghold in the game? I've seen videos of the "inquisitor" on YouTube making judgements like in a trial. When do I get to do that? When am I appointed the role of "inquisitor"??

You need to proceed somewhat along the main quest chain to get to Skyhold. I'd say about 25-35 hours into the game. You will be named Inquisitor at that point. You will also get access to several new areas, a class specialization and a garden to grow your own herbs.

[Sylvius the Mad]

The classes are fairly well balanced, amd since you can control the whole party there's little need for your character to be a specific class.

I will say that being the party's main tank (the warrior who engages the enemy and holds its attention to keep the rogues and mages safe) does make it somewhat more difficult to disrupt rifts, as disrupting rifts is incompatible with getting hit, and one of the tank's main jobs is getting hit so no one else does.

As for the tactical cam, are you playing with a controller? I expect you are. If so, let us know, because the controller plays quite differently from the keyboard.

If you're using a keyboard and mouse, I can offer meaningful tactical camera advice. If you're using a controller, I will leave it to someone else to help you.

[correctamundo]

The tac-cam is a bit hard to zoom out in low ceilinged areas. Outdoors you get a good outzoomed overview in general. Then you steer the reticule with qwes. The game should pause when you engage the tac cam. I use the mouse scrollwheel most of the time to start tac-cam. Issue orders and scroll in to action cam. The characters wont hold in action mode however, if you really want them to hold stay in tac-cam.

 

Skyhold comes a little later all depending how fast you advance the mainquestline.

 

p.s I use kb/m

[Arete0483]

190 hours?! Wow! Quick question about the story. How do I stay with the main story line? Are there specific quests that need to be done? Is there a way to differentiate between fru fru quests and the more important ones?

I am using a controller. Playstation 4. I've tried using the tactical cameras because I've read that it's useful for more difficult bosses. I've just never used anything like it. Feel like I'm riding blind. I'm guessing with more playtime it may get easier to use. I just wasn't sure if there is a standard strategy that is used or is it boss dependent?

[katerinafm]

Look at the enemies' level. If they are many levels above yours you'll probably die and need to come back later after you've leveled up. Enemies give you XP as long as they are not 4 levels below your level.

 

I think the Witcher would probably be a bit more overwhelming for a first rpg.

 

Your journal has a main quest tab.

[Dutch's Ghost]

The guy at gamestop knows nothing. DAI is crap. Pick a better game like DAO or Witcher 3.

[caradoc2000]

Your journal has a main quest tab.

This. It is labeled "Inquisitor's Path". Note that these tend to have power requirements, so you will have to do some extracurricular activities.

[Captain Wiseass]

Note that there are a handful of side quests that are only available before Skyhold. None of them are essential, but if you're an absolute completionist, it's only fair to warn you.

[Gileadan]

190 hours?! Wow! Quick question about the story. How do I stay with the main story line? Are there specific quests that need to be done? Is there a way to differentiate between fru fru quests and the more important ones?

Remember the war table where you stood with Cullen, Leliana and Josephine and picked the Hinterlands as your first travel destination? Main story destinations appear here too, and they are marked with a greenish swirl (like a miniature rift) above them. They cost power points to unlock and have certain level recommendations.  Main story destinations, unlike the hinterlands and all other maps, are only accessible while you play that main story section - once you're done, you can't return to main story locations, so make sure to get your bags loaded with loot before you depart.

 

The power points needed to unlock main story missions are acquired by doing side quests and requisitions. You don't need to completely clear your unlocked maps if you don't feel like it - you're free to do as many or as few as you like as long as you meet the power requirements for the next main story part. A completionist playthrough will net you a huge surplus of power.

 

You also find the main quests under "Inquisitor's Path" in your journal.

[line_genrou]

Pay attention to their level. If you are dying quickly, level up with some side-quests then come back to that region.

 

Some players have more difficulty with DAI because it's party based combat, however I find Witcher 3 more challenging because usually you deal with alchemy, with different oils, potions etc for a specific encounter since every monster is unique.

The combat in DAI was dumbed down A LOT, so maybe you're having difficulties for not being that familiar with RPGs.

So basically if you die a lot and fast, you're probably not ready for that enemy or region.

[Arete0483]

Someone mentioned the enemies being scattered about in a non linear fashion. I expected them to be. So you are right I've likely been trying to kill enemies that are of a higher level then I am.

What is the best stategy to acquire gold? I've been keeping the people at the war table busy with quests. Are there any other ways to acquire gold quickly? Without cheating?

[Sylvius the Mad]

Someone mentioned the enemies being scattered about in a non linear fashion. I expected them to be. So you are right I've likely been trying to kill enemies that are of a higher level then I am.

What is the best stategy to acquire gold? I've been keeping the people at the war table busy with quests. Are there any other ways to acquire gold quickly? Without cheating?

Early in the game, gold comes fairly slowly.

Though I question why you would need it. There's really not much worth buying. You can craft basically everything you need.

[Sylvius the Mad]

With the tac cam, I find it helpful to lower the angle all the way down and just drive the camera around like it's a first-person perspective. The is great for scouting ahead around corners in caves and such.

[Arete0483]

Would like more gold so I can equip my party with better gear. What gold I had accumulated over what seemed like hours I used to buy schematics for a sword and some armor for my main character. Then again I was desperate for armor and weapons because I was fighting enemies that were likely to hard for me. I didn't realize I would run into enemies that were a much higher level. Again I expected linear. For the enemies to be my level. Yes I'm an RPG newbie for sure.

[line_genrou]

Like it was said, you don't do much with gold because you find better equipment dropped from enemies or just by crafting. Don't waste your gold with weapons and armors sold by merchants. You find plenty of schematics just by looting. Be more concerned with gathering materials for crafting.

It seems you're in a bit of a hurry. Relax, it's an RPG and you're gonna spend a lot of time with it lol. Take things slowly, do side-quests to level up and leave places that enemies are overpowering you.