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#201
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You're joking right? Not everyone here is American.....country-music isn't for everyone.



Doesn't matter if you're a country music fan or American, for that matter. It's Johnny FU##ING Cash. The man is an icon across many genre of music, and it sets the backdrop for the whole "space cowboy" idea. So hope that helps.

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Is there anything that doesn't get complained about?

You probably already know the answer to that question.  All official fan forums I've ever visited are like this.   :P


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The whole trailer was bad. I expected Mass Effect to steal the show. It was just a footnote instead.

 

If you think about it at the 2013 E3 DA:I only got a teaser trailer as well and a heavy focus at the 2014 E3 and it came out 2014 Nov.

ME:A comes out in 2016 Holidays, so it's logical that they'll focus on it at the 2016 E3, not 2015.



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What is everybody bitching about..., it's a trailer and did exactly what it was suppose to do...., get us talking.

Remember.., the only thing worse than being talked about..., is not being talked about.

Who ever chose the music did an excellent job. :))

 

I bet Chuck Norris listens to Johnny Cash..., all LEGENDS do.

 

Cheers


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What is everybody bitching about..., it's a trailer and did exactly what it was suppose to do...., get us talking.

Remember.., the only thing worse than being talked about..., is not being talked about.

Who ever chose the music did an excellent job. :))

 

I bet Chuck Norris listens to Johnny Cash..., all LEGENDS do.

 

Cheers

 

Not everybody is bitching. Actually, I think most of this thread is people saying the same thing as you. ;)



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The sooner people realize the trilogy's over the happier I'll be.

 

This. I'm really trying to not even acknowledge the previous trilogy's existence while thinking about ME:A.



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You're joking right? Not everyone here is American.....country-music isn't for everyone.

 

Yes, because only British people like the Beatles.  And only the French like Edith Piaf.  It's a well-known fact. 

 

If you think country music is only in America you've never heard of this guy: https://en.wikipedia...wiki/Slim_Dusty

Or the umpteen ones from Canada I can think of.  

 

Also, it's totally not the case that space western is an actual sci-fi genre.


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#208
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Well, yeah, but his music isn't something I enjoy. There's also that part. I can accept I'm in the minority with that one, but people here have to accept not everyone like his genre. 

 

EDIT EDIT: I don't really enjoy Cash either.



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I'm not offended by people not liking Johnny Cash, or country music. I'm offended by shrill, directionless complaining. "I don't like this, so it's objectively bad and here's a shoddy, ******-poor chain of logic that only makes sense in my own head for why it's objectively bad". BSN logic.

It's a teaser trailer. It's about exploring a new, lawless frontier. To North Americans, that draws parallels to The Wild West (of cinematic fame). So, Johnny Cash. What possible reason is there to shrilly gripe about that? Because they didn't make a trailer for you (hypothetical you), personally, according to your sensibilities? They didn't make the trailer for you. They made it for the general audience at E3. Solipsism is the watchword for most of BSN, but this is a magical new Pokeman-evolution level of solipsism expressed here.

The "Wild West" of cinematic fame has (1) been dead as a genre for decades and (2) has never been about exploring a frontier. I don't know why you're so obsessed with this "North American" point, as if Johnny Cash is some ubiquitous cultural icon.

I just don't think this "general audience" is anywhere near as broad or familiar with the subject as you think.

And this is the source of the debate. Some people think the music choice is stupid because its not good and at odds with their image of the series. Others seem to take personal offence at the suggestion that Cash isn't universally known or believed to be good.

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I can't stand Johnny Cash, and lol at the Cash fanboys.  



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And I heard, as it were, the noise of thunder:
One of the four beasts saying: "Come and see." And I saw.
And behold, a white horse.

There's a man goin' 'round takin' names.
An' he decides who to free and who to blame.
Everybody won't be treated all the same.
There'll be a golden ladder reaching down.
When the man comes around.


Substitute Mako for Golden Ladder and I think he pretty much nailed it.

It's not the lyrics. It's the actual music -the melody. Country's... construction for lack of a better world is fundamentally inimical (to me) to a feeling of "epic". It's not the lyrics, but the actual composition.

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It's not the lyrics. It's the actual music -the melody. Country's... construction for lack of a better world is fundamentally inimical (to me) to a feeling of "epic". It's not the lyrics, but the actual composition.

You're talking a song from over sixty years ago. Composition is going to be somewhat locked into the time it was made. Lyrics transcend that though. There's just so many throw away songs that are about this or that but make no sense what so ever, convey no emotion lyrically. Cash's songs were about love, hate, pain, redemption, etc.



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@In Exile:  Why must everything be epic though? 

I can think of probably hundreds of the world's greatest novels that don't have an "epic" tone (in so far as they are grandiose).

 

If this is space frontiers-folk searching for homes to host the sapient races of a galaxy they've fled from... then the story can be grounded while still being excellent. 

 

Not everything HAS to be Reapers and Darkspawn, nor are you saying that really - it's just that I think this caught a specific vibe and I'm hoping that this is actually what the story is about.

 

Good bye Space Opera.


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BAWWW I DUN LIKE JOHNNY CASH SONG BIOWER PLZ FIX AND PUT IN THE MY LITTLE PONY THEME SONG


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@In Exile: Why must everything be epic though?

I can think of probably hundreds of the world's greatest novels that don't have an "epic" tone (in so far as they are grandiose).

If this is space frontiers-folk searching for homes to host the sapient races of a galaxy they've fled from... then the story can be grounded while still being excellent.

Not everything HAS to be Reapers and Darkspawn, nor are you saying that really - it's just that I think this caught a specific vibe and I'm hoping that this is actually what the story is about.

Good bye Space Opera.


I'm not saying it has to be epic. I wasn't the one that called Cash epic, remember. And I don't think the music had to be epic.

I wouldn't use the word grounded to talk about sci-fi frontier exploration, but that can be a great game. I just don't think - at all - that Cash's music conveys a sense of wonderment at the mystery of the universe and the overwhelming challenge of frontier colonisation.

To me, country music is evocative of the modern American south. That's likely because I'm not a fan of the genre.

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oh my god are you guys serious? People is scared that Mass Effect will have that vibe common to Fallout? ROFL!

It's a damn trailer anyone! And they chose country music because that recalls the far west times,pioneers and stuff like that, since we will have a new galaxy to explore. I guess the next trailer will be filled with all of that Epic songs such as TSFH we all love.

Chill out everyone and have faith please



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This thread is ****** unbelievable. Only on this oddball forum would nine miserable pages be devoted to such a bull**** topic as this one. You don't like the song? Turn the volume down. It was an announcement trailer for christsakes and not a moment for us to wax on and on about the merits of American rural music or it's place in games or whether or not it's "epic" whatever the heck that is...******...******...******. 


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oh my god are you guys serious? People is scared that Mass Effect will have that vibe common to Fallout? ROFL!

It's a damn trailer anyone! And they chose country music because that recalls the far west times,pioneers and stuff like that, since we will have a new galaxy to explore. I guess the next trailer will be filled with all of that Epic songs such as TSFH we all love.

Chill out everyone and have faith please

But... I was all ready to name my char "John Marston" :crying:



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@In Exile:  You know, I've never been a fan of the "space wonderment" genre actually. 

 

I hate any science fiction where giant luxury cruise liners float through space with their occupants doing little but going on adventures and basically sight seeing on a galactic level.  (I'm looking at you Star Wars/Trek)

 

Any real space exploration is going to be dangerous, serious, dirty and filled with work work work.  Far more akin to ocean voyage during the Age of Sails... than taking a nice jaunt to the islands on a Disney ship.

 

SO.... to that end, I actually find Cash's music appropriate.  

 

That doesn't mean you have to, just sharing my thoughts on the topic.



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I can think of probably hundreds of the world's greatest novels that don't have an "epic" tone (in so far as they are grandiose).

 

If this is space frontiers-folk searching for homes to host the sapient races of a galaxy they've fled from... then the story can be grounded while still being excellent. 

 

Not everything HAS to be Reapers and Darkspawn, nor are you saying that really - it's just that I think this caught a specific vibe and I'm hoping that this is actually what the story is about.

 

Good bye Space Opera.

 

Yeah, if the original trilogy was heavily inspired by Bablyon Five and about races coming together to fight an ancient menace, I'd say the feel of what we've seen so far comes across more like something like Farscape, where a group of disparate races are travelling together across uncharted territories and united (at first) solely because they need each other to survive?



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@In Exile:  You know, I've never been a fan of the "space wonderment" genre actually. 

 

I hate any science fiction where giant luxury cruise liners float through space with their occupants doing little but going on adventures and basically sight seeing on a galactic level.  (I'm looking at you Star Wars/Trek)

 

Any real space exploration is going to be dangerous, serious, dirty and filled with work work work.  Far more akin to ocean voyage during the Age of Sails... than taking a nice jaunt to the islands on a Disney ship.

 

SO.... to that end, I actually find Cash's music appropriate.  

 

That doesn't mean you have to, just sharing my thoughts on the topic.

 

Look at Interstellar. I think that was a movie that really captured the wonder and beauty of space, as well as the danger and meekness of those exploring it. And while it was dangerous, it was also something beyond our understanding. That's why I don't think the 14-17th century exploration of the world works as a parallel - because the galaxy is fundamentally alien in a way we don't understand.

 

That's actually why I liked the blaring orchestral tones of Interstellar so much (all of the variations of Day One). 



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You realize that "Riders in the Sky" is believed to be an interpretation of the European mythic Wild Hunt by some. Now what the hell does that have to do with any thing? Well different interpretations of that folk tale deal with the lost souls of dead hunters in pursuit of something across the skies. Generally catastrophe and death followed seeing the Wild Hunt. Just an interesting aside.



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Yeah, if the original trilogy was heavily inspired by Bablyon Five and about races coming together to fight an ancient menace, I'd say the feel of what we've seen so far comes across more like something like Farscape, where a group of disparate races are travelling together across uncharted territories and united (at first) solely because they need each other to survive?

 

B5 was a big deconstruction of that, though. It's why JMS very much wanted to end the series on something other than the races heroically coming together to fight an ancient menace. 


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Nothing of a teaser trailer's music excludes there being orchestral music in future trailers or the game.

 

Clint Mansel wasn't 100% of ME3.

 

Cash was used for various marketing and thematic purposes, that's it. Like I said, I don't really like Cash. But some people disliking Cash and disliking the use of his music in a trailer doesn't really mean anything bad at all for the game.



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Nothing of a teaser trailer's music excludes there being orchestral music in future trailers or the game.

 

Clint Mansel wasn't 100% of ME3.

 

Cash was used for various marketing and thematic purposes, that's it. Like I said, I don't really like Cash. But some people disliking Cash and disliking the use of his music in a trailer doesn't really mean anything bad at all for the game.

 

I think looking at this trailer is indicative of the music of ME is - to put it charitably - the silliest thing on this forum right now, and that's saying something.

 

I just don't get the theme, which is why I think it's a bad choice. I'm just against using music that only works if you're tuned into the cultural dimension of it. That's why, for example, I prefer pure melody to tracks with lyrics.