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[Yggdrasil]

Stepping away from the endless debate as to whether the soft reboot is a good or bad idea (and the nearly universal incorrect usage of the word "objective"), I thought I would speculate on the set up for the new game.  I haven't really been following coverage for the new game, so I don't know if any of my guesses have been confirmed or ruled out...

 

My guess is that many of the major races in the Milky Way came up with the idea of fleeing the galaxy as a way to circumvent the Reaper threat and ensure the survival of their species (evolution's most basic priority).  The game is set many years after the original trilogy on account of the length of time intergalactic travel would take.  I don't know if they would accomplish this through stasis.  (Perhaps the discovery of some kind of stasis--or even starship--technology gave rise to the desperate escape plan.)  Or maybe they used multigenerational ships similar to the backstory of the "Firefly" series.

 

I don't see that the different races necessarily had to escape together in a cooperative effort.  They might have just each enacted a similar plan.  Competition over habitable planets and conflict with native species would drive the narrative.

 

Anybody else have speculations about the story?  Maybe thoughts from those people who are really good about picking up subtle clues in the trailers?  I ask that everyone stay on topic and not devolve into your opinions about the decision to move the setting to the Andromeda galaxy.  There are plenty of other threads for that.

[Rasande]

There's really not much to go on. Since it's Bioware/Mass Effect i guess it's going to be some over the top save the galaxy bit where in the process of exploring the galaxy come across something that is in some way a major threat to the Milky Way,

 

Or it can be something more local. Maby following the Reaper threat they couldn't rely on the relays anymore(Maby they needed the cataclysm to function or whatever) or while they rebuilding learned alot how they functioned and developed new technology for space travel that made the trip to Andromeda feasible.

And it's simply a colonization effort and they encounter some kind resistance.

 

Or a mix of both. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

Would be cool though if you kind of encounter a kind of mirror civilization in the midst of a civil war and you get to decide to support a side in the conflict to aid your expantion efforts or play them against each other and reap the rewards Conquistador-style.

[Armass81]

Its likely something like that. It would make sense.

[alienatedflea]

First, if the leaked info on the survey (I think thats the source) says we are "The Pathfinder", then I expect that lots of exploration/side missions to establish colonies..securing resources..and so on.  I guess people are already worried that ME4 will be like DA:I that there were too many side missions blah blah blah.  Well, what those people do not understand or clearly forgot about DA2 was that DA2 was viewed as a very tiny game in regards to explorations and Bioware overcompensated for DA2's tiny game to making the DA:I too big.

 

Secondly, I would love to see a First Contact War happen like when Humans and Turians had.  Would be awesome to see that since yet again we are new comers to a brave new world.  I would also like to see a new species follows down the same path as the Quarians: making robots as well as advancing robotics under the presumption that robots would make their lives easier only to become self aware.  I would like to see some space pirates (only if its done in a way that isn't too goofy).  I would like to THE PLAYER to have to choose to almost effectively sterlize a fast growing species like the Krogans and the geneophage because the fast growing species would become a threat to the stability of the star cluster(If we are only limited to just one instead of the whole galaxy).

 

Just some things that come to mind. 

[Wayning_Star]

Some of those ships looked like collector rigs. There is no way to tell, they were too careful about actually revealing anything of the game. Video game makers possibly have went off into dark space? I did like the way they set navigation up and you just punch your nifty galactic ticket and the ship zips you off. It almost seemed like instantaneous transport from the clips?

[Wayning_Star]

I don't think they'll save the galaxy as it slips into that super massive black hole in the end. Lets hope they've got a better time Line.. yikes!!

[NuclearTech76]

Pretty much what I've been kicking around. Perhaps the council, STG (because Salarians, even their contingencies have contingencies), or someone decided that putting the fate of the galaxy in Shepard's hands were some long odds? Perhaps they decided on a contingency plan of an Ark to take some of each species to another universe in case the Reaper war went the wrong way. Cyro stasis would've kept them alive but removed from the events of the Reaper War.

 

We could be explorers but also invaders to the new universe. 

[Armass81]

Plot twist speculations:

 

Remnants turn out to be reapers. Or at least similar to reapers.

[NuclearTech76]

Plot twist speculations:

 

Remnants turn out to be reapers. Or at least similar to reapers.

That's actually really interesting though. Reapers purpose was to save humanity, they were in essence a genetic Ark. What if they seeded another galaxy? 

[Wayning_Star]

actually, "the fate" of the universe was in the hands/claws of the Leviathan, still was last time we seen/heard them. They "permitted" Shepard to keep on keeping on.

 

I'd guess it's going to be anticlimactic in many ways, as the last "ME" game left many wondering WTF just happened.. I kind of liked that part myself, but I'm old and stuck in my ways, etc..

[Yggdrasil]

I think it would be a perfect springboard from the old series while leaving all of the important concerns from the trilogy behind.  That way we can be entirely focused on the concerns of the new game while having some familiarity in the form of the other races present, the technology, etc.  One thing that interests me, as NuclearTech 76 pointed out, how could the native species see us as anything but invaders?  Some of the more diplomatic races could put forth the idea of peaceful cooperation (though the Krogan wouldn't), but such talk would be seen with suspicion if not outright hostility.  Technology in the new galaxy wouldn't develop on the hard-wired course dictated by the Reapers, so I'm also curious to see what the devs come up with.

[Wayning_Star]

wouldn't sea, er.. space faring nations be more inclined to interact, it's a big galaxy,and there isn't much trade in some of the remote places. Survival requires a limit to your aggressive nature?

[Miss Golightly]

I think it can be anyone's guess. Everything is up for speculation and there's no right or wrong answer as of yet.

 

What I came up with is similar to what you said.

 

Rightfully believing that putting all their faith in Shepard is a long shot, the Council pulls together a small handful of capable crews to do what no species had tried before, flee the galaxy and find new homes. The crews go into stasis for the long journey to the new galaxy and they wake to find that they've completely lost contact with the Milky Way. They're basically stranded in Andromeda with no way back and have no clue what happened in the Milky Way. We may hear minor references to the trilogy like; 

"So, do you think Shepard did it?"

"Did what?"

"Saved the galaxy?"

"Oh please, we wouldn't even be here right now if Shepard had a chance of succeeding."

 

I'm wondering if the N7 solider we see in the trailer is either our commanding officer, the commanding officer from one of these other crews or he's the "antagonist" and we're going to end up rethinking what N7 stands for. Maybe instead of working as a team like the Council intended, we end up competing against the other crews for supremacy in this new galaxy ("This galaxy ain't big enough for the bot of us")... which would carry over into the wild west vibe we're getting from the trailer. Maybe there already is a dominant race in Andromeda and we end up kicking up some sort of First Contact War with them.

[NuclearTech76]

wouldn't sea, er.. space faring nations be more inclined to interact, it's a big galaxy,and there isn't much trade in some of the remote places. Survival requires a limit to your aggressive nature?

Fear of what you do not understand is pretty much an evolutionary response/survival reponse. Think of most first contact in man's history, did very many of those not end badly? 

[N7Jamaican]

My thoughts:

 

The reapers are back...  Their threat expanded from one galaxy to another.  

[Aren]

i hope that is not a save the galaxy

being tired of saving everyone........

[alienatedflea]

Are yall talking about the same council that denied the existence of reapers for the majority of the series?  If they really thought the reapers existed, one would think they would be more pro-active against them.  Just sayin.

[BabyPuncher]

I really hope they're not stupid enough to try and pull Inquisition in space.

 

Inquisition was poorly written enough, and that was in a setting that was actually somewhat sensible for an Inquisition-style organization and that didn't have the very hated ending of the previous game dragging it down.

[Kabooooom]

The back story of the plot is probably similar to what we predicted - an ark leaves the milky way as a secret contingency plan to evade the Reapers. When it leaves and how it gets there are relatively minor problems to the overall plot of an ark ship.

Once they get there, the plot will involve exploration, setting up shop in a brave new galaxy...

...however, just as in the Milky Way, there SHOULD have been an ancient, godlike super race that developed and spread across the galaxy by sheer probability and age of the galaxy alone. Mass Effect never was shy about addressing the Fermi paradox, it outright provided an explanation for it. They will have to do the same with Andromeda. If such a race does NOT exist, then they will need to account for some semblance of a galactic extinction cycle.

My guess is, the protagonist will discover exactly that - to their horror, a galactic extinction cycle does occur in Andromeda. Through exploring uncharted worlds and ancient ruins, the pieces will probably fall together.

However, to make the story different from the Reapers, there should be a major twist. Perhaps, for example, the "antagonist" race is not truly causing mass extinction, but are benevolent and helping the races of Andromeda to true ascendance, once they are ready.

I'm sure they will make the threat fundamentally different from the Reapers, but some core principles have to remain, otherwise it would not be true to the lore of mass effect.

[Kabooooom]

Are yall talking about the same council that denied the existence of reapers for the majority of the series? If they really thought the reapers existed, one would think they would be more pro-active against them. Just sayin.

They publically denied the existence of the Reapers, even to Shepard. But privately they not only knew of their existence but were actively researching them as well. They knew that the remains of Sovereign that rained down on the Citadel did not belong to a Geth dreadnought.

However, they obviously didn't grasp the true extent of the threat.

[NuclearTech76]

Are yall talking about the same council that denied the existence of reapers for the majority of the series?  If they really thought the reapers existed, one would think they would be more pro-active against them.  Just sayin.

Council may not have believed in the existence of the Reapers but others may have and set events in motion. Hell Liara had enough connections to disseminate enough intel to make some probably get a little nervous. 

 

Lol, since some of the shadow broker's contacts were probably less than on the up and up, maybe we'll have a ship full of space pirates.

[Booth]

Remnants turn out to be reapers. Or at least similar to reapers.

 

Would make sense, cause Andromeda is not really far away enough from milky way to say it would be a good place to hide from reapers. Citadel assumes that Reaper have the ability to travel with 10.000 times of light speed. In other words a reaper would need about 250 years to get to Andromeda if he could travel all the time with full speed. 250 years is almost nothing for a machine that waits 50.000 years for doing his main job.

 

If Reaper are NOT in Andromeda and human are in andromeda cause they tried to escape or bring a kind of ark over there to save the species... Bioware definetly has to explain why Reaper couldnt do it. Otherwise the whole starting point of the story is just bullshit.

 

edit: Another idea would be, that "we" (the new protagonists in ME-Andromeda) find out that the reaper did try to occupy or "farm" andromeda but they failed. And to find out why is one of the main goals of the next ME or even the next trilogy.

[Anacronian Stryx]

Plot twist speculations:

 

Remnants turn out to be reapers. Or at least similar to reapers.

What about another twist - the Remnants are really powerful, but they feared the reapers and stayed away from the milky way because of the reapers and once Shepard takes down the reapers .. the milky way is an remnants smorgasbord.

[Wayning_Star]

well, it would seem that much of the ME had problems with their evolution, as per reaper/leviathan.  Besides the entire galactic civilization is pasted from the pretense of "it's already here, why not just take it?" Remember the trap set by the catalyst of old?  so much for natural selection, if any.

[Yggdrasil]

There was a method to the madness of the Reapers other than a genocidal impulse.  I doubt they would bother with a group fleeing the galaxy as it would fall outside the scope of their goals.  They feel harvesting is a favor and final ascension for the species, so I would see them viewing those who left as simply missing out.  (Whereas holdouts in the Milky Way might interfere with their purpose and plans.)

 

I'm actually hoping that there's not a lot of plot carry-over from the trilogy, just enough familiar elements to make it feel like a Mass Effect game.  (Maybe we're even the ones bringing hitherto unknown mass effect technology.)  I imagine that the focus will be survival and establishing, not preserving what already existed as in the trilogy.  I think the choice of song for the trailer was meant to harken back to the lawlessness, lack of central authority and disorganization of the American frontier.  In the trilogy, humanity tapped into a millennias-old galactic civilization with an established history.  Now we're stumbling clumsily into undiscovered country.