I'm thinking that all we'll get of the ME1,2,3 is 'ambiance'... no reapers, no old team buds, few familiar races, etc. By 2016 rolls around, the game will be just a faint memory. Probably why it's that long in the tooth, this release date?
Speculation About the Story
#26
Posté 16 juin 2015 - 08:46
#27
Posté 16 juin 2015 - 10:01
You know, someone in another thread mentioned an accidental wormhole as the reason behind the transplant to Andromeda. That would be a simple explanation that could explain why a diverse group of Milky Way species find themselves in another galaxy, even if it was a little fortuitous. Kinda depends on where they take the story. Will it be a colonization effort needing sufficient numbers? Or will it be a smaller group of diverse Milky Way species that have to work together to survive in a new environment? Or will it be something entirely different?
Unfortunately, we have a year and a half to find out! ![]()
#28
Posté 16 juin 2015 - 11:04
The catalyst sends an advanced R-800 through time to kill shepards mother
while the illusive man sends Kai Leng armed with a toothbrush to protect her.
#29
Posté 16 juin 2015 - 11:19
That doesn't make any sense, Kroitz ... unless it was an eezo toothbrush!
#30
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 06:25
Many questions:
-How did a human come to lead various established races again? Shepard was a one-in-a-trillion human being, in which humans are looked down upon as mere children. And Shepard had a heck of a time recruiting beings from other races.
-If N7 exists, does SPECTRE?
-Did Cerberus manage to infiltrate those heading to the new galaxy? Will it raise its head(s) again? Would these new characters even be aware of Cerberus and its objectives?
-If Reapers don't exist in this galaxy, and there will likely be synthetics, at what stage will organics and synthetics be in their relations? Antagonistic? If so, to what extent?
-If it's an ark story, are all races represented, or did some get left behind? If so, which ones, and why?
-How big a threat are the Khet, and are they the only one? In ME 1, there were Geth, Rachni, Vorcha, Asari, Krogan, etc. to face down, and ME2 added Collectors and Reapers, so you have to figure there's more than just the Khet and the robots guarding the Remnants' vaults.
-Which sci-fi will this game most likely draw from? Speaker for the Dead? (ark/time) Farscape? (separated from your universe, stumbling upon warring factions) Firefly? (space cowboys) Cube? (Remnant vaults that trap you and change layout for defensive purposes)
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#31
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 06:46
Many questions:
-How did a human come to lead various established races again? Shepard was a one-in-a-trillion human being, in which humans are looked down upon as mere children. And Shepard had a heck of a time recruiting beings from other races.
Because Mac Walters says so.
-If N7 exists, does SPECTRE?
Spectre agents are technically supposed to work in Citadel Space, but you wouldn't be wrong to see them running around in Andromeda thanks to the rule of cool even though they serve literally no purpose there.
-Did Cerberus manage to infiltrate those heading to the new galaxy? Will it raise its head(s) again? Would these new characters even be aware of Cerberus and its objectives?
Given that Mac Walters has a hand in the game, you can bet your sweet ass Cerberus will be at the center of attention once more.
-If Reapers don't exist in this galaxy, and there will likely be synthetics, at what stage will organics and synthetics be in their relations? Antagonistic? If so, to what extent?
Mass Effect: Andromeda's organics-synthetics subplot will be written in line with the Catalyst's predictions, just so you never forget how right he was.
-If it's an ark story, are all races represented, or did some get left behind? If so, which ones, and why?
Too early to say, but don't hold your breath for the geth.
-How big a threat are the Khet, and are they the only one? In ME 1, there were Geth, Rachni, Vorcha, Asari, Krogan, etc. to face down, and ME2 added Collectors and Reapers, so you have to figure there's more than just the Khet and the robots guarding the Remnants' vaults.
They are likely going to be the equivalent of the batarians, token bad guys with minimal intelligence and maximum aggression. They will quickly be outperformed and outgunned by the Andromedan Cerberus Expedition, who will then proceed to steal the spotlight from everyone in Andromeda, including the Remnants.
-Which sci-fi will this game most likely draw from? Speaker for the Dead? (ark/time) Farscape? (separated from your universe, stumbling upon warring factions) Firefly? (space cowboys) Cube? (Remnant vaults that trap you and change layout for defensive purposes)
Interstellar and The Martian. Expect overly obvious references to both, especially line drops of "There is no time for caution" and "I am going to science the **** out of this".
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#32
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 06:58
I think there's a strong chance that those spires from the trailer are MEA's version of a DAI rift. They will be popping up all over the open world (galaxy) and you will have to put them down or something.
Speaking of open world, that is my main concern. I'm worried about having a strong forward moving narrative to keep the momentum of the story going. That big empty desert planet wasn't encouraging but I will keep my fingers crossed.
#33
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 07:07
I think there's a strong chance that those spires from the trailer are MEA's version of a DAI rift. They will be popping up all over the open world (galaxy) and you will have to put them down or something.
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#34
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 07:14
I think there's a strong chance that those spires from the trailer are MEA's version of a DAI rift. They will be popping up all over the open world (galaxy) and you will have to put them down or something.
Bases in ME1 just got brought to the current gen. It will be up to you to discover them and which ones you want to infiltrate, and the rewards will vary and the narrative will slightly change depending on your successes. Perhaps there will be a reputation system at play depending on how many of these vaults you crack open, in addition to how much you'll discover about the Remnants (which makes you wonder if you'll actually encounter any in this game, or if it will be handled like the Protheans in ME1).
#35
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 07:25
it really would be cool if the story were written like we were the invaders, but the good guys of course, carving out a piece of the galaxy for ourselves. Not saving the galaxy from a threat that could destroy it because the races already living there couldn't - we're so speshul. Damn, I'm getting so cynical. I just want to see some beef in the writing, not the same old formula.
#36
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 08:47
I really hope they're not stupid enough to try and pull Inquisition in space.
grab elfroot in space would not be a good idea.
#37
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 08:49
Those Khets looks awfully similar to the Protheans.....let's just hope i'm getting it wrong....but in any case for the love of allmighty God please....NO CERBERUS!
#38
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 09:23
Many questions:
-How did a human come to lead various established races again? Shepard was a one-in-a-trillion human being, in which humans are looked down upon as mere children. And Shepard had a heck of a time recruiting beings from other races.
Rhetorical question. Why council races were okay with being kicked out of council and represented by humans (was retconned in ME3 though)? Why all races were so willing to abandon their homeworlds in order to save Earth without knowing that there will be Catalyst?
-If N7 exists, does SPECTRE?
I don't think there is some active N7 program, the guy probably got his mark in Miky Way. If so, there must some Spectre's too.
Did Cerberus manage to infiltrate those heading to the new galaxy? Will it raise its head(s) again? Would these new characters even be aware of Cerberus and its objectives?
Oh my, I hope I'll never see Cerberus again. Still I'm okay with racist and "we deserve better place under the sun" themes.
If it's an ark story, are all races represented, or did some get left behind? If so, which ones, and why?
Pretty much sure not all of them will make it, reasons will be purely practical from game design, writing perspective and overall audience preferences, Codex explanations are easily done after that. One can expect Drama threads and petitions once Bioware say the word on the matter.
-How big a threat are the Khet, and are they the only one? In ME 1, there were Geth, Rachni, Vorcha, Asari, Krogan, etc. to face down, and ME2 added Collectors and Reapers, so you have to figure there's more than just the Khet and the robots guarding the Remnants' vaults.
Probably big, but abstractly big, you know, we will be told how uneven chances are but will be fighting a few dozens of them at a time, overcoming this no doubt threatening power. Leak says there will be another race, I tend to believe it.
I myself wonder how they explain need for colonies on other planets, if logically new colonists should focus on setting their new homeworld properly. You wouldn't mine minerals on some lava planet if there is a lot of resources on your current planet.
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#39
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 10:14
Except for the fact that they only just got Rannoch back - I bet the Quarians would be laughing up their sleeves. (Do they have sleeves?). I mean - they got the ships for living in. ![]()
#40
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 11:26
I think there's a strong chance that those spires from the trailer are MEA's version of a DAI rift. They will be popping up all over the open world (galaxy) and you will have to put them down or something.
That seems likely.
#41
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 12:14
The back story of the plot is probably similar to what we predicted - an ark leaves the milky way as a secret contingency plan to evade the Reapers. When it leaves and how it gets there are relatively minor problems to the overall plot of an ark ship.
Once they get there, the plot will involve exploration, setting up shop in a brave new galaxy...
...however, just as in the Milky Way, there SHOULD have been an ancient, godlike super race that developed and spread across the galaxy by sheer probability and age of the galaxy alone. Mass Effect never was shy about addressing the Fermi paradox, it outright provided an explanation for it. They will have to do the same with Andromeda. If such a race does NOT exist, then they will need to account for some semblance of a galactic extinction cycle.
My guess is, the protagonist will discover exactly that - to their horror, a galactic extinction cycle does occur in Andromeda. Through exploring uncharted worlds and ancient ruins, the pieces will probably fall together.
However, to make the story different from the Reapers, there should be a major twist. Perhaps, for example, the "antagonist" race is not truly causing mass extinction, but are benevolent and helping the races of Andromeda to true ascendance, once they are ready.
I'm sure they will make the threat fundamentally different from the Reapers, but some core principles have to remain, otherwise it would not be true to the lore of mass effect.
They could have a galactic extinction cycle because of the reapers - there is nothing to say the reapers don't do their thing in more than one galaxy, whilst saving the milky way Shepard could have inadvertently saved Andromeda aswell. Although an ascended species ala the ancients from stargate could be cool, what ever the hell happened to shepard in the control ending would seem to give precedence.
Council may not have believed in the existence of the Reapers but others may have and set events in motion. Hell Liara had enough connections to disseminate enough intel to make some probably get a little nervous.
Lol, since some of the shadow broker's contacts were probably less than on the up and up, maybe we'll have a ship full of space pirates.
Liara certainly seems to have the connections and resources to setup an evac, I'd believe her having that backup plan.
Would make sense, cause Andromeda is not really far away enough from milky way to say it would be a good place to hide from reapers. Citadel assumes that Reaper have the ability to travel with 10.000 times of light speed. In other words a reaper would need about 250 years to get to Andromeda if he could travel all the time with full speed. 250 years is almost nothing for a machine that waits 50.000 years for doing his main job.
If Reaper are NOT in Andromeda and human are in andromeda cause they tried to escape or bring a kind of ark over there to save the species... Bioware definetly has to explain why Reaper couldnt do it. Otherwise the whole starting point of the story is just bullshit.
edit: Another idea would be, that "we" (the new protagonists in ME-Andromeda) find out that the reaper did try to occupy or "farm" andromeda but they failed. And to find out why is one of the main goals of the next ME or even the next trilogy.
That could be pretty interesting.
#42
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 02:16
You know, someone in another thread mentioned an accidental wormhole as the reason behind the transplant to Andromeda. That would be a simple explanation that could explain why a diverse group of Milky Way species find themselves in another galaxy, even if it was a little fortuitous. Kinda depends on where they take the story. Will it be a colonization effort needing sufficient numbers? Or will it be a smaller group of diverse Milky Way species that have to work together to survive in a new environment? Or will it be something entirely different?
Unfortunately, we have a year and a half to find out!
To me the travel they initiated in the trailer looked like it used a worm hole more than an internal mass effect relay.
#43
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 02:21
With some more thought on it, the rational of the Reapers was that organic life would be extinguished by synthetics if they didn't intervene and harvest organics as some sort of genetic Ark. Perhaps that already happened in Andromeda, maybe we'll be fighting a race of synthetics?
#44
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 02:34
I'm guessing that they've discovered some new kind of wormhole-like means to travel great distances other than the mass relays. The devs had probably been kicking the idea of this newly discovered technology since before finishing ME3, which is why the destruction of the mass relay network in the original ME3 ending wouldn't have been as devastating as assumed by the players.
#45
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 02:34
#46
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 02:38
#47
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 02:48
I suspect it's some kind of accident, or some purposeful attempt to send a bunch of people from various races to escape the Reapers, thereby saving these species (Ark theory, yea...sad).
The story is going to be about you exploring these planets in Andromeda to either:
a ) Find a way back home, or
b ) Find a new home for the people on the ship/ark/whatever
so take your pick, Voyager, or Earth 2.
And somehow, the Reapers never went to Andromeda...yea, right. Also, pigs have wings and can fly.
Either way, if they're stuck there for a very long time, and there are Asari among them, all of them will eventually become Asari.
#48
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 03:06
And somehow, the Reapers never went to Andromeda...yea, right. Also, pigs have wings and can fly.
Why are you so skeptical about it? It was said on mulptiple ocassions that reapers hibernate between their harvests in Milky Way. If they weren't limited by Milky Way they would be busy harvesting all galaxies.
And don't forget that they obey some broken AI (or even VI?).
#49
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 03:09
I bet there will be a race against time for the fate of the humanity. Again. Also there will be some point of no return, obviously.
#50
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 03:31
Return of the Protheans a possibility?





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