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[Maniccc]

Why are you so skeptical about it? It was said on mulptiple ocassions that reapers hibernate between their harvests in Milky Way. If they weren't limited by Milky Way they would be busy harvesting all galaxies.

And don't forget that they obey some broken AI (or even VI?).

We actually have no clue what they do between harvests, and who cares what was said, it's all up in the air, this is Bioware we're talking about.  The AI was on some religious type quest for a billion years, why would they not have traveled to other galaxies?  A billion years is a ridiculously long time.  There is no indication that they are limited to the Milky Way, why would they be?  It's just more bad writing from Bioware, frankly.

[Hiemoth]

Because Mac Walters says so.
 

Given that Mac Walters has a hand in the game, you can bet your sweet ass Cerberus will be at the center of attention once more.

 

Just as a small point, I thought Chris Schlerf was the head writer for ME:A, not Mac Walters?

[Deadpool9]

Interstellar and The Martian. Expect overly obvious references to both, especially line drops of "There is no time for caution" and "I am going to science the **** out of this".

 

As to Interstellar, I suppose the time dilation and urgency of picking one planet vs. another to survey for colonization is out of the question because video game, like all the other video games.  It would've been interesting, though.

 

Thinking of a very small part of Interstellar, I wonder why there isn't a drone to use, or even just binoculars, if you're going to plan an attack.  In MGS, Snake has solid binoculars, or the MK II.  In Splinter Cell: Blacklist, Sam Fisher has a drone.  In ME3, Liara has an info drone, which could be modified.  So should the new ME:A allow the characters to preview what lies ahead rather than just jump out of the Mako and launch themselves recklessly at the enemy using a jetpack?  Millions of ways to die in the west, I guess.

 

That line from The Martian, sure, why not?  It's pretty much Jesse from Breaking Bad right there ("Yeah science, b****!").  Other than that, I'd say The Martian has about as much chance at bearing a significant influence on the game as Gravity or Prometheus does.

 

But speaking of Jesse and Breaking Bad, now I'm wondering if Red Sand will make a return.  And if it does, how much of an influence would Breaking Bad have on its representation.  Hmm...

 

And if they do the ark thing, will it be like Alien/Prometheus/Battlestar: Galactica, in which some (or a single) characters are actually AI but we don't discover that until much later, and if they are AI could they be working against us like in those movies/show, perhaps even on behalf of Cerberus?  I'm not sure we've had a squadmate who we build up but who ultimately stabs us in the back.  Miranda was the closest thing to that, but there must be richer possibilities, here.  Not everyone can be good, no matter how much loyalty you build.  Sure, you can betray others like Wrex, but what about them betraying you?  At least, I hope an AI will have an independent spirit and difficult to distinguish from organics, perhaps like in Ex Machina.

[Yggdrasil]

Maniccc, why would you assume that the Reapers would feel the need to go to other galaxies?  Do you know how many galaxies exist in the known universe?  It takes the Reapers centuries to accomplish each culling in just one galaxy.  They wouldn't have the resources to hop from galaxy to galaxy, even if they had the time.  So it's not bad writing; it's simple logic.

[Sion1138]

Hey, this just occurred to me. Since we may be searching for a new home for humanity, are we going to be Space Moses this time?

[Former_Fiend]

My theory; post reaper war, the Leviathans have enthralled all of the Milky Way organics and are using us as an army to invade and conquer Andromeda to expand their empire.

 

We're playing as the bad guys, and we won't even realize it until two thirds of the way through the game.

[clst]

if you want to speculate about the game read the survey one guy leak one month and half ago  every thing write is true so it's give you a good overview about  the ^game ( every thing is good but thing to add to make it exeptional ) i don't post it here i will be ban so search it

[Thrawn2211]

We used something left by one of the prothean groups that tried to come up with a solution to the reaper problem and got to andromeda. Those hostiles we see in the trailer are evolved versions of the main protheans. The javic types. How about that?

 

My thoughts as well. Who says races in this cycle were the first that tried to escape extinction by fleeing to Andromeda? Just as many cycles were working on the Catalyst, many cycles could have worked on "Arks". A lot of the debate focuses on how travelling could have been possible - but whatever explanation Bioware makes up in the end, who says it is limited to "our" cycle only? It might be a bit arrogant for us to believe that we are the first cycle to get this working when there were thousands of cycles before us.

 

This, we might end up facing Protheans and other old Milky Way races in Andromeda (such as the original Keepers). The story could be very similar in narrative terms as the original trilogy: Fighting for survival against a superior evil (i.e. the Bioware formula). pretty much all arriving races from Milky Way to Andromeda could have been wiped out (completely or almsot completely) by a technologically advanced/evil race from Andromeda so the we as the protagonist arriving in Andromeda has to fight for survival in the new place (by searching for old & advanced technology giving us an edge as indicated in the trailer/leak).

 

Just a a thought though. Might be completely wrong, but definitely would provide interesting opportunities - the fate and story of our beloved galaxy and known races would continue. There would not be a clear cutoff point in this approach throwing everything old away. (PS: Hi BSN)

[azarhal]

Maniccc, why would you assume that the Reapers would feel the need to go to other galaxies?  Do you know how many galaxies exist in the known universe?  It takes the Reapers centuries to accomplish each culling in just one galaxy.  They wouldn't have the resources to hop from galaxy to galaxy, even if they had the time.  So it's not bad writing; it's simple logic.

 

They waste resources by staying dormant in deep space doing nothing for ~50k years, while they would gather resources if they were actually harvesting other galaxies.

 

As for hoping from galaxy to galaxy, fans calculated it would take them about 250 years using their FTL drives to get to Andromeda based on game information and it's not even the closest galaxy to the Milky Way. With 50 000 years to spares, they could harvest 50 galaxies with 1000 years allocated to each including travel (and the Citadel might be a relay to a place in deep space with more mass relays that connect to other galaxies).

[Yggdrasil]

Being dormant isn't wasting resources.  The Reapers' intelligence is basically like the geth collective.  I think that conversations with Legion show that their sentience is focused on a virtual existence, not the physical one.  I just don't understand why so many people assume that the Reapers would want to invade other galaxies.  They aren't driven by an aggressive impulse to conquer and amass territory.  They follow rigidly specific parameters of a rigidly specific directive, just as one might expect of a synthetic intelligence.  If they were only interested in conquest, they could assimilate all sapience in the galaxy at once and then move on to the next galaxy like a cancer.

[Legenlorn]

Hmm. Did anyone else notice that after the trailer you have a screen of the n7 guy standing and the subscribe button in front of him, but something is also BEHIND him? Something that looks like a star gate?

Edit: scratch that. Its just the target thingy like in the trailer.

[Torgette]

Just a hypothesis as to why the reapers may or may not visit Andromeda: organic civilizations there never reach critical mass to begin with, so they aren't part of the problem they were built to solve - hence "unknown threat" or whatever this game is speculatively about, maybe Andromeda was already taken over by AI and it's a lost cause to them.

 

As for the trailer, thanks to the lyrics and at least one of the split-second cutscenes it seems that we're watching a plot important veteran-type N7 character who is possibly surprised and/or ambushed and on the run? Perhaps we're (the Pathfinder) given the job of tracking them down and solving the mystery of their disappearance. Maybe along the way we find and recruit the surviving squadmates we see in the trailer as well, hence the theme of an untested leader leading experienced individuals?

 

Hmm. Did anyone else notice that after the trailer you have a screen of the n7 guy standing and the subscribe button in front of him, but something is also BEHIND him? Something that looks like a star gate?

 

I think it's just supposed to be one of those reticles like we saw in the trailer itself.

[Armass81]

Heres somethings which i predict.

 

- The way to Andromeda was a one way ticket, there is no going back. We have to survive in this new space with what we can settle, find, trade and/or conquer there. Citadel is no longer there, its rules are irrelevant, so anything goes I guess. It is literally like settling the unknown, untamed wild west, hence the music in the trailer was so suitable. Our purpose is to carve a piece of the new galaxy for ourselves to live in.

- We will contact new species, natives of the galaxy, they will be like the native american tribes of wild west. Some friendly, curious, willing to trade, but others see you only as intruders and want you dead or gone(khet?).

- There will be infighting with the other species and criminals that travelled with us, over the colony worlds and resources. Turians and asari are no longer the mightiest of species, so the old game turns into something completely new.

- Remnants were once there, but now they seem to be gone.... or is this what they want us to think, are they actually still there? Maybe they are the ones keeping Andromeda in check, the guardians, the overseers. Maybe they have like transfered their minds into the synthetics. What will they do to us?

[Absafraginlootly]

And somehow, the Reapers never went to Andromeda...yea, right.  Also, pigs have wings and can fly.

Just curious why you think the game will say that reapers have never been to Andromeda? Has there been some official word?

 

Sure, they won't be there now because they've been defeated and its time for a new story, but that doesn't mean they couldn't have visited Andromeda in the past.

[Arcian]

We used something left by one of the prothean groups that tried to come up with a solution to the reaper problem and got to andromeda. Those hostiles we see in the trailer are evolved versions of the main protheans. The javic types. How about that?

50,000 years is not enough time to evolve significantly. If there are protheans in Andromeda, they will be almost anatomically indistinguishable from Javik.

[Absafraginlootly]

50,000 years is not enough time to evolve significantly. If there are protheans in Andromeda, they will be almost anatomically indistinguishable from Javik.

Unless they've been altered by something else in Andromeda.

[Kabooooom]

They could have a galactic extinction cycle because of the reapers - there is nothing to say the reapers don't do their thing in more than one galaxy, whilst saving the milky way Shepard could have inadvertently saved Andromeda aswell. Although an ascended species ala the ancients from stargate could be cool, what ever the hell happened to shepard in the control ending would seem to give precedence.

Liara certainly seems to have the connections and resources to setup an evac, I'd believe her having that backup plan.
That could be pretty interesting.

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The only problem with the Reapers being in Andromeda is that it would be just so god damned boring. Time for a new plot.

[Absafraginlootly]

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The only problem with the Reapers being in Andromeda is that it would be just so god damned boring. Time for a new plot.

Wasn't suggesting that they be in Andromeda, they just that they may have been there before. I agree that MEA should be focused on a new plot/antagonist.

[Medhia_Nox]

Anyone consider the possibility that the Reapers just got done with the Andromeda galaxy before coming to the Milky Way?

If that's the case - there might be an "Andromeda Citadel" sitting somewhere in that galaxy which was activated, the Reapers came, wiped out the Andromeda galaxy and then the Milky Way Citadel was activated. 

 

Then the refugees from the Milky Way arrive. 

 

Just randomly searching the universe for life would be ludicrous, beyond comprehension and the Reapers are not "really" beyond comprehension... the Citadel was what let them know that the Milky Way was scheduled to be culled. 

 

If the survivors reach the Andromeda galaxy and find such a Citadel - they might be able to stop the Reapers from coming to that galaxy indefinitely.

[Absafraginlootly]

Anyone consider the possibility that the Reapers just got done with the Andromeda galaxy before coming to the Milky Way?

If that's the case - there might be an "Andromeda Citadel" sitting somewhere in that galaxy which was activated, the Reapers came, wiped out the Andromeda galaxy and then the Milky Way Citadel was activated. 

 

Then the refugees from the Milky Way arrive. 

 

Just randomly searching the universe for life would be ludicrous, beyond comprehension and the Reapers are not "really" beyond comprehension... the Citadel was what let them know that the Milky Way was scheduled to be culled. 

 

If the survivors reach the Andromeda galaxy and find such a Citadel - they might be able to stop the Reapers from coming to that galaxy indefinitely.

Very possible, but as far as we know Shepard stopped all of the reapers, so the reapers won't be coming anyway. Though the expedition might not know that depending on when they left.

[Absafraginlootly]

My theory; post reaper war, the Leviathans have enthralled all of the Milky Way organics and are using us as an army to invade and conquer Andromeda to expand their empire.

 

We're playing as the bad guys, and we won't even realize it until two thirds of the way through the game.

This would actually be really cool, I could really get into that sort of a plot.

[Former_Fiend]

This would actually be really cool, I could really get into that sort of a plot.

 

Yeah, I came up with it as a joke at first but honestly, the more I think about it, the more I like the idea.

[shepskisaac]

Yeah, I came up with it as a joke at first but honestly, the more I think about it, the more I like the idea.

Alternatively, Leviathans enthrall some colonies/cities during ME3 and make them build ships so they can move to Andromeda (and take slave races with them to serve them there). Thus in MEA we don't deal with some boring Council but report to Levi overlords demanding more minerals scanned

[camphor]

50,000 years is not enough time to evolve significantly. If there are protheans in Andromeda, they will be almost anatomically indistinguishable from Javik.

with controlled breeding its more then enough time look at all the diffrent dog breeds most share a common ancester within the last 50,000 years

 

not saying it should happen by if you only bred humans with the largest height and muscle mass we woould all be 10 foot 600 pound gorilla men in a few thousand years at most