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[Hanako Ikezawa]

every Li in DA2 is bisexual, confirmed by David Gaider a while back.

[Evamitchelle]

ME - Liara

ME2 - Kelly (fling), Samara (fling), and Liara (DLC)

ME3 - Liara, Kelly, Samantha, and Diana (fling)

 

versus

 

ME - no one

ME2 - no one

ME3 - Kaidan and Steve

 

 

Not to mention that Kaidan could be dead by that point, in which case you have 1 option. FemShep in 3 has 2 guaranteed options + hook-up with Allers. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Not to mention that Kaidan could be dead by that point, in which case you have 1 option. FemShep in 3 has 2 guaranteed options + hook-up with Allers. 

The worst one in ME3 is actually straight femShep, if you think about it. If Kaidan was dead and you didn't import a romance, you had nobody.

Even with the imports, only one works out while the other two don't. 

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

So much Andramada!

[LPPrince]

 

Which I didn't like. But in Inquisition they handled it right(in my opinion, of course);featuring heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, etc etc options.

[LPPrince]

So much Andramada!

 

And he didn't even need alcohol to make that pun.

[BabyPuncher]

Which I didn't like. But in Inquisition they handled it right(in my opinion, of course);featuring heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, etc etc options.

 

And I'm guessing with pretty lame romances. Assuming the romances were more or less on the same level with the rest of the character writing?

 

Cassandra's romance was sweet, it more or less accomplished what a romance is meant to accomplish, but it sure as hell wasn't brilliant or anything close. BioWare should be aiming a little higher, particularly with such a central romance.

[AresKeith]

So much Andramada!

 

[LPPrince]

And I'm guessing with pretty lame romances. Assuming the romances were more or less on the same level with the rest of the character writing?

 

Cassandra's romance was sweet, it more or less accomplished what a romance is meant to accomplish, but it sure as hell wasn't brilliant or anything close. BioWare should be aiming a little higher, particularly with such a central romance.

 

That would require spending more resources on romance content, which from what I understand most players don't even engage in.

[Grieving Natashina]

Oh come on.  That was funny.

[LPPrince]

Oh come on.  That was funny.

 

Forgive Ares, he's being Andramatica.

[Lady Artifice]

And I'm guessing with pretty lame romances. Assuming the romances were more or less on the same level with the rest of the character writing?

 

Cassandra's romance was sweet, it more or less accomplished what a romance is meant to accomplish, but it sure as hell wasn't brilliant or anything close. BioWare should be aiming a little higher, particularly with such a central romance.

 

Okay. 

 

What would it take for you to consider a romance arc "brilliant"?

[BabyPuncher]

Okay. 

 

What would it take for you to consider a romance arc "brilliant"?

 

Same as pretty much any other arc. A strong conflict and powerful resolution. An enunciation.
 

[LPPrince]

Same as pretty much any other arc. A strong conflict and powerful resolution. An enunciation.
 

 

Does a romance arc require conflict? What sort of conflict would a romance arc have?

[Altair_ShepardN7]

Does a romance arc require conflict? What sort of conflict would a romance arc have?

He/She/it cheats on you with half the ship? He/she/it gives you space aids? I don't know, there are plenty of possibilities. 

[BabyPuncher]

I would say all drama requires meaningful conflict, yes. And it can be all sorts of things. All sorts of reasons why characters can't or won't be together. Maybe they're physically seperated. Maybe they're struggling to overcome some personal issue. Maybe they have every reason to disturst or even hate each other. Maybe they're in very unconventional relationship where romance won't be accepted.

[LPPrince]

He/She/it cheats on you with half the ship? He/she/it gives you space aids? I don't know, there are plenty of possibilities. 

 

I'm still waiting for Bioware to implement the opportunity for your playable character to actually make the conscious decision to cheat on their love interest and see where that goes.

 

Its always easy with cheating in games;lets see something come out of it. Conflict initiated by the player.

 

I brought up this idea before so I'll do it again, but I thought it'd be interesting if a particular romantic partner was locked off UNTIL you locked in another partner. Only then would he/she become interested in you, and you could pursue that relationship behind the back of whomever you already partnered with. Have your character be the villain. I'd be curious to see what karma or comeuppance would reach the player character, if any.

[AresKeith]

I would say all drama requires meaningful conflict, yes. And it can be all sorts of things. All sorts of reasons why characters can't or won't be together. Maybe they're physically seperated. Maybe they're struggling to overcome some personal issue. Maybe they have every reason to disturst or even hate each other. Maybe they're in very unconventional relationship where romance won't be accepted.

 

Cassandra: afraid of getting close to the Inquisition because people she care about tends to die along with her own self esteem issues

 

Josephine: the issue of getting put into an arranged marriage while in a relationship with the Inquisitor 

[BabyPuncher]

I really don't remember Cassandra saying anything about not wanting romance because 'people she cares about tend to die.' Nor about any self esteem issues.

 

In any event, there has to be a resolution, and it has to be something a hell of a lot stronger than the protagonist basically saying "It's okay" and the love interest saying "Gee, I guess since you like me it's not a problem after all."

[Evamitchelle]

I would say all drama requires meaningful conflict, yes. And it can be all sorts of things. All sorts of reasons why characters can't or won't be together. Maybe they're physically seperated. Maybe they're struggling to overcome some personal issue. Maybe they have every reason to disturst or even hate each other. Maybe they're in very unconventional relationship where romance won't be accepted.

 

Isn't that basically Kaidan/Ashley in ME2 and the beginning of ME3 ? 

[SlottsMachine]

[aoibhealfae]

I would love for Bioware to create more male/male romance options with Aliens. 

 

I would say all drama requires meaningful conflict, yes. And it can be all sorts of things. All sorts of reasons why characters can't or won't be together. Maybe they're physically seperated. Maybe they're struggling to overcome some personal issue. Maybe they have every reason to disturst or even hate each other. Maybe they're in very unconventional relationship where romance won't be accepted.

Heh.. that's Kaidan/Ashleymance. First with differing ranks and then Cerberus. I love this too. It made the romance arc continuous and isn't a romantic subplot.

 

But in terms of unconventional relationship; Alistair who romance with non-human noble and Fenris/Hawke or Merrill/Hawke romance?

[AresKeith]

I really don't remember Cassandra saying anything about not wanting romance because 'people she cares about tend to die.' Nor about any self esteem issues.

 

In any event, there has to be a resolution, and it has to be something a hell of a lot stronger than the protagonist basically saying "It's okay" and the love interest saying "Gee, I guess since you like me it's not a problem after all."

 

The first she subtly mentions, the bolded part is pretty obvious the notice especially when you start too imitate the romace

[ebevan91]

Isn't that basically Kaidan/Ashley in ME2 and the beginning of ME3 ? 

 

You know, I hated how they were gone for like half the game. You finally get to see them again and they get taken away from you real soon.

[Hazegurl]

No its not, because nothing changes in their relationship, its almost the same.

I did recgonize there are a few different lines, but thats it, its in no way meaningful to the romance. And IIRC, andes says it to any male Hawke, doesnt even need to be in a romance.

 

Do you want another example? In DA2 you cant even talk about marriage or kids to any of you romances, they treat a hetero relationship like a homosexual (why the word hom0 is censored?) one. I dont want it anymore.

 

Sorry to burst your bubble, but every Li in DA2 is bisexual, confirmed by David Gaider a while back. You might be content with the Bi LI, but I'm not, if Bioware cant make a different romance for a homosexual or hetero relationship its better they just remove the BI LI.

The only relationship I saw mention marriage was Sera in DAI and Alistair in DAO.  Once again, this has nothing at all to do with sexuality.  DA2 could have brought up marriage but didn't.  Just like marriage isn't mentioned at all for Morrigan. You're trying to claim that sexuality is the reason behind this and you've proven nothing as a majority of the relationships are straight and marriage and children are the least talked about topics overall.  Miranda, straight, can't have children.  Yet this is never discussed, you find out behind her back in LOTSB. 

 

So yeah, bubble hardly busted. Fenris is gay in my game. Just like Kaidan.

 

Got any more pointless arguments?