They likely will NEVER do it again considering how poorly received the game was
Meh, all the complaints about DA2 were basically impotent nerd rage. It's a good game, it offers replay value and considering the development time it came out rather well. Most of the complaints about it (no Warden etc) could be applied to DA:I as well but for some reason no one did. Personally I rate DA2 higher than DA:I.
Why do LGBT people have to wait for mods though? We shouldn't have to, we should have the same amount of love interests that straight people are getting from the start. Is asking for diversity and fairness really asking for too much?
Says who?
Is asking for diversity and fairness really asking for too much?
Depends on what exactly you're asking for. Are you asking to see the LGBT community being represented more in games? If so, then no that's not to much to ask.
Are you asking for the LGBT community and every single sexual preference that comes with it to get exact equal representation as straight people, for every single Bioware game from this point forward? Then yes you're asking too much, and you've become a burden on the writers. I doubt any of them would ever admit, mostly because they wanna keep their job, but I cannot imagine they all appreciate having to treat all the romance options in future games like a checklist or quota, to satisfy every gender out there. In fact I know of some of the Bioware writers who are quite sick of romances in general.
I'm happy you guys are getting some representation in gaming. But this SHOULD NOT be forced. Writers should not be forced to represent every sexual preference out there, because some people expect them to. They should do it, because they want to. Because more often than not, a writer who WANTS to write a gay romance, is gonna tell a better love story, than a writer who's being told to.
Meh, all the complaints about DA2 were basically impotent nerd rage. It's a good game, it offers replay value and considering the development time it came out rather well. Most of the complaints about it (no Warden etc) could be applied to DA:I as well but for some reason no one did. Personally I rate DA2 higher than DA:I.
The reason DA2's complaints weren't thrust on Inquisition is because Inquisition didn't have those issues. You know, like enemies dropping from the sky, playersexual romances, a small game world, repetition of caves, etc etc. The complaints against DA2 were not "impotent nerd rage" 
they were legitimate complaints that Bioware recognized and then went into rectifying.
Hopefully Andromeda doesn't make any of the mistakes that were made with DA2 or have to take shortcuts like the playersexuality element.
Well, I don't think they're forced to.Says who?
Depends on what exactly you're asking for. Are you asking to see the LGBT community being represented more in games? If so, then no that's not to much to ask.
Are you asking for the LGBT community and every single sexual preference that comes with it to get exact equal representation as straight people, for every single Bioware game from this point forward? Then yes you're asking too much, and you've become a burden on the writers. I doubt any of them would ever admit, mostly because they wanna keep their job, but I cannot imagine they all appreciate having to treat all the romance options in future games like a checklist or quota, to satisfy every gender out there. In fact I know of some of the Bioware writers who are quite sick of romances in general.
I'm happy you guys are getting some representation in gaming. But this SHOULD NOT be forced. Writers should not be forced to represent every sexual preference out there, because some people expect them to. They should do it, because they want to. Because more often than not, a writer who WANTS to write a gay romance, is gonna tell a better love story, than a writer who's being told to.
The reason DA2's complaints weren't thrust on Inquisition is because Inquisition didn't have those issues. You know, like enemies dropping from the sky, playersexual romances, a small game world, repetition of caves, etc etc. The complaints against DA2 were not "impotent nerd rage"
Hopefully Andromeda doesn't make any of the mistakes that were made with DA2.
Oh noes, all the dungeons look the same... yeah, that was such a huge issue. Cause that never ever happened in any other game *cough* Mass Effect *cough*. I could probably list 30+ other games that did the same and no one complained about it. Spoiled gamers these days...
Enemies spawning suddendly close by? Duh, DA:I has those, too. And they don't even have a dramatic entry animation.
Small game world? BS. As if DA:O was so much bigger. Hey, the Frostbite Mountains were a small map featuring half a dozen NPCs lingering in front of the gates to Orzammar. Denerim was a market place, three back alleys and a brothel. Kirkwall was about the same size and it changed between day/night and for the invasion. Also, bigger is not better. DA:I has large maps (still no open world) but they are mostly empty and largely inconsequential. Baldur's Gate had tons of different areas but the majority of them were just wildernis with a few mobs. etc etc.
Playersexual was not a problem until people made it one. Seriously, the basic idea was sound. Sure, it's not ideal from the writer's perspective because part of every LI is always fluid/vague but it's still more likely than all of them being bi. Although it is possible. DA:I instead features a potential harem. Sooooo much better. And people still complained. A lot.
Seriously... many games would be rated a lot better if people played them before they read any forums. Yes, some may not be perfect, some may have been released in a rush, some may miss features... but if the gamers enjoy the experience and replay the game over and over again... then maybe the issues voiced by a vocal minority aren't that severe.
I never really understood the reasoning behind gender-locked romances. Other than a few minor cases, we're not given any information on our LI's interests until it's time for the romance. Why not make every character available for romance no matter the gender?
And no, it wouldn't be making every character bisexual, any more than the existence of Paragon/Renegade made every Shepard have a split personality.
I say just keep it simple.
1 straight female
1 straight male
1 gay male
1 lesbian
1 monogendered alien (probably asari)
1 alien male who fairly closely resembles humans (bi)
Leave the turians and krogan out of it. I know you guys want to romance a krogan, but damn.
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They likely will NEVER do it again considering how poorly received the game was
The romances had little to do with how it was received. Lazy world building, immersion breaking respawning enemies, and not feeding the player's ego are the reason for that.
I'd honestly love to see the reaction if the Devs announced that there would only be LGTB+ romances in this game."Let the writers write what they want" and "it's not really a big deal, wh do people keep demanding it" and all that jazz.
Says who?
Depends on what exactly you're asking for. Are you asking to see the LGBT community being represented more in games? If so, then no that's not to much to ask.
Are you asking for the LGBT community and every single sexual preference that comes with it to get exact equal representation as straight people, for every single Bioware game from this point forward? Then yes you're asking too much, and you've become a burden on the writers. I doubt any of them would ever admit, mostly because they wanna keep their job, but I cannot imagine they all appreciate having to treat all the romance options in future games like a checklist or quota, to satisfy every gender out there. In fact I know of some of the Bioware writers who are quite sick of romances in general.
I'm happy you guys are getting some representation in gaming. But this SHOULD NOT be forced. Writers should not be forced to represent every sexual preference out there, because some people expect them to. They should do it, because they want to. Because more often than not, a writer who WANTS to write a gay romance, is gonna tell a better love story, than a writer who's being told to.
Doesn't that also go for straight romances though? While I agree that they shouldn't force anything, the reality is that just by having romances in a game the writers are forced to write them for straight males. Nobody ever questions whether or not they want to. Very few people even consider that gay romances are in the game because the writers want to write them. But they do, because unlike straight romances, they could have gotten away with not bothering.
Well this looks like a good spot to burrow and lurk for a while. Don't mind me shouldn't take too long to build a nest over in the corner.
Ahhh much better. Okay carry on dears
That's not exactly what people are really concerned with, no.Are you some of acting like if the LGBT community, which I happily support despite being straight, isn't properly being represented on Bioware's latest games? Cause that's not true.
If we're talking about quantity, what's the issue of having, let's say 9 squadmates and 4 of them are homosexual or Bisexual while the rest 5 ones are straight? Is this not enough? Because I wouldn't really mind the contrary, in fact, that happened in DAI and I was really fine about it.
If it's not enough, then you really should look at other company who does the same, because right now, I can't find any, be glad they're this open.
Are you some of acting like if the LGBT community, which I happily support despite being straight, isn't properly being represented on Bioware's latest games? Cause that's not true.
Well, gay males in ME3 were kinda... limited. 2 choices, 1 of which could be dead, and the other of which was A) entirely new and B ) not actually part of the team.
If we're talking about quantity, what's the issue of having, let's say 9 squadmates and 4 of them are homosexual or Bisexual while the rest 5 ones are straight? Is this not enough? Because I wouldn't really mind the contrary, in fact, that happened in DAI and I was really fine about it.
It's not about the characters' sexualities, its about their availability to the player. Adding twelve new gay men isn't going to help if you're a lesbian.
If it's not enough, then you really should look at other company who does the same, because right now, I can't find any, be glad they're this open.
Better than most =/= good.
Are you some of acting like if the LGBT community, which I happily support despite being straight, isn't properly being represented on Bioware's latest games? Cause that's not true.
If we're talking about quantity, what's the issue of having, let's say 9 squadmates and 4 of them are homosexual or Bisexual while the rest 5 ones are straight? Is this not enough? Because I wouldn't really mind the contrary, in fact, that happened in DAI and I was really fine about it.
If it's not enough, then you really should look at other company who does the same, because right now, I can't find any, be glad they're this open.
That's literally been what everyone is asking for. People just want more than one option for a gay male or female PC, which is what DA2, ME3, and DAI offered. Hopefully MEA will continue that.
Abort mission. This will go badly.
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Make everyone and everything in the game romanceable to everyone and everything. Biower pls.
Romancing the Geth adds a whole new meaning to the phrase "Sex drive"
Romancing a Krogan requires the enhanced medbay upgrade.
The possibilities are endless.
I never really understood the reasoning behind gender-locked romances. Other than a few minor cases, we're not given any information on our LI's interests until it's time for the romance. Why not make every character available for romance no matter the gender?
And no, it wouldn't be making every character bisexual, any more than the existence of Paragon/Renegade made every Shepard have a split personality.
People tend to like the idea that the characters don't just change fundamental parts of themselves because of the options we explore with the protagonist.
Well, gay males in ME3 were kinda... limited. 2 choices, 1 of which could be dead, and the other of which was A) entirely new and B ) not actually part of the team.
It's not about the characters' sexualities, its about their availability to the player. Adding twelve new gay men isn't going to help if you're a lesbian.
Better than most =/= good.
That's literally been what everyone is asking for. People just want more than one option for a gay male or female PC, which is what DA2, ME3, and DAI offered. Hopefully MEA will continue that.
*raises hand*Can I just say that it's a terrible idea for Bioware to have nine romances at all, regardless of the sexuality distribution?
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