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So... Can Romance Be A Little More Fair This Time?


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#51
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By thinking in numbers and dividing romances equally I think it just contributes that much more to the "Romance as a feature" game-design and I hate that. Romances should be in the game because it suits the character developments that may occur or whatever the writers decide on. I'm tired of Bioware always viewing Romance as a formula.


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Do one game without romances. One single game, and we'll see how it is. Imagine if Andromeda focused on getting the protag all set up, making your story, getting to know these awesome characters. And then the sequel comes, and all relationships are established and then put on the romance. Would be so much deeper. 


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No. It wasn't written in blood. But the likelihood of them making a statement like "that you can fall in love with" and later saying, "Oh no we didn't put romance in the game..." is low. Very low. 

 

Had they been on the fence about putting romance in the game, they wouldn't have hinted that strongly toward it in the first place. I say "hinted" loosely, since it was such a blatant endorsement.

 

I don't see how you can take that as a hint. It's a turn of phrase. We talk about "falling in love with characters" all the time colloquially, and that's just about liking characters - it's not even limited to gaming. 

 

Again, I'd be surprised if a Bioware game didn't have a romance seeing as how that's a low cost thing a bunch of people like in-game. I'm just saying they didn't confirm it. 


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#54
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I've written this on these forums dozens of times, but I'll write it again.

 

I've long advocated for fewer romance options with more romance dialog/cinematics/content. Instead of having 4-6 romance options with only 10-20 minutes of romance dialog/content, Bioware should reduce the number of characters and increase the quantity of content. I would like to see 1 male and 1 female character that can be romanced by any gender protagonist. The romances should have more depth and higher fidelity content. Romances have long been really cheesy and shallow and impossible for me to take seriously. In the name of roleplaying, Bioware should place more emphasis on making romances more believable and less of a novelty sidequest. 


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10/10 great reference but you used my likeness. I want a cut of those likes.

Only if you'll give me all of your shoes.

All of them.



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I want them to go with the 2/2/2 model that was speculated about (and apparently originally intended for DA: I).  One guy and one gal who is straight; one each who is bisexual; and one each who is gay.  Multiple choices for everyone.  Not a ridiculous amount of options (I personally think that 8 is too much; how many were in ME3 including imported games, like 10?).  Some can be squad members; some can be prominent NPCs.  And there's nothing controversial about.  No one is getting "more".  No one is "overrepresented".  Two options for everyone.  Easy and simple.


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I'd rather see them abandon the romances altogether.

 

The small mount of enjoyment I'd get from them would be completely overshadowed by months of pure fun reading the BSN on fire, I'd even pay a few euros for a BSN Premium service that sends me the butthurt in small bite size doses over email during the working day.

 

That'd be absolutely amazing, Biower pls.


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Do one game without romances. One single game, and we'll see how it is. Imagine if Andromeda focused on getting the protag all set up, making your story, getting to know these awesome characters. And then the sequel comes, and all relationships are established and then put on the romance. Would be so much deeper. 

not a bad idea



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I'd rather see them abandon the romances altogether.

 

The small mount of enjoyment I get from them would be completely overshadowed by months of pure fun reading the BSN on fire.

 

I'm alright with it. Hell, most of the games I play are this way.

 

No one is going to top Jack for me anyways.  :rolleyes:  -_-



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Do one game without romances. One single game, and we'll see how it is. Imagine if Andromeda focused on getting the protag all set up, making your story, getting to know these awesome characters. And then the sequel comes, and all relationships are established and then put on the romance. Would be so much deeper. 

Very ambitious.

 

I like it, though BioWare will play it safe given the reception of DA:A.



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I don't see how you can take that as a hint. It's a turn of phrase. We talk about "falling in love with characters" all the time colloquially, and that's just about liking characters - it's not even limited to gaming. 

 

Again, I'd be surprised if a Bioware game didn't have a romance seeing as how that's a low cost thing a bunch of people like in-game. I'm just saying they didn't confirm it. 

 

You are overanalyzing it for the sake of conversation, but if that's your prerogative...



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You are overanalyzing it for the sake of conversation, but if that's your prerogative...


He's right about the English idiom, though. But I think you're right about the substance.

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I'd like 2/2/2 system as well, simple and fairest it can be.

 

I'd personally be most into male Drell as romance option, species and gender-wise, sexuality doesn't matter.

 

Overall I'd like to have "better" options for male PC in my point of view. Cause in ME trilogy I wasn't really into playing male Shepard cause romance options for them weren't really intresting to me especially when you had to wait games for some ^^;


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After following DA:I's development, my only wish is for them to keep who the romance options are under wraps until release.


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He's right about the English idiom, though.

 

Correct about the idiom - which is irrelevant.

 

Incorrect about BioWare's endorsement - which is a staple of their products.



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@macwalterslives I'm so ready for the next mass effect...can you tell us if we will be able to experience more alien love interests?

 

Mac Walters @macwalterslives Dec 22

@sistau_cadence Given that both romances AND aliens are a big part of the Mass Effect experience, I think the odds are very high.


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Only if you'll give me all of your shoes.

All of them.

I'll consider it if you go 6 ranks in shockwave.



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Do one game without romances. One single game, and we'll see how it is. Imagine if Andromeda focused on getting the protag all set up, making your story, getting to know these awesome characters. And then the sequel comes, and all relationships are established and then put on the romance. Would be so much deeper.


I get your point, and I partly agree with you if this game turns out to be part of another trilogy. I mentioned I loved Tali as a character, which I do, but I didn't really feel anything for her in the first installment of the game. It was through the fact that it felt like my Shepard and her had built up such a strong relationship over the course of three games that I really began to appreciate how great a character she was.

I'd really enjoy a similar experience with Andromeda, just building up a relationship (definitely not necessarily romantic) with my squadmates to get to know them better and understand where they're coming from. If my character really does build up a strong bond with one of those characters I'd very much like it to develop into a romance, as long as it feels natural rather than rushed.
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Correct about the idiom - which is irrelevant.

 

Incorrect about BioWare's endorsement - which is a staple of their products.

 

 

user ‏@user Dec 21

@macwalterslives I'm so ready for the next mass effect...can you tell us if we will be able to experience more alien love interests?

 

Mac Walters ‏@macwalterslives Dec 22

@sistau_cadence Given that both romances AND aliens are a big part of the Mass Effect experience, I think the odds are very high.

 

See, that's an implied confirmation.


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After following DA:I's development, my only wish is for them to keep who the romance options are under wraps until release.

YES.

 

The lulz would be epic. 


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I think that this thread is coming too early, but I bite.

 

The day that the writers in Bioware restrain their creativity allowing them to be blackmailed under the threat of people believing that their 60 bucks give the players the right to do so, will be a sad day indeed. Of all the romance options offered, finding one not willing to stretch the boundaries of the conventionalism will be disappointing. I play games to be challenged, to be surprised, not only in terms of combat, but in terms of the romance as well. I don't need a videogame to fake the love that I'm not able to find in real life...**in Sera's voice** "That's weird..."



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I don't even want a trilogy again. Let alone trilogy romances.. I haven't even got my feet wet with what this setting is all about. One game is enough of a investment for now. I don't want to play three games just to get to know a character.



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I get your point, and I partly agree with you if this game turns out to be part of another trilogy. I mentioned I loved Tali as a character, which I do, but I didn't really feel anything for her in the first installment of the game. It was through the fact that it felt like my Shepard and her had built up such a strong relationship over the course of three games that I really began to appreciate how great a character she was.

I'd really enjoy a similar experience with Andromeda, just building up a relationship (definitely not necessarily romantic) with my squadmates to get to know them better and understand where they're coming from. If my character really does build up a strong bond with one of those characters I'd very much like it to develop into a romance, as long as it feels natural rather than rushed.

Both Tali and Garrus were perfect because of this. If you didn't like their personality, i get that. But the romance arcs started from Friendship more than any other. And it would be wise to do so again. It wasn't about sex. It was about respect for eachother, and the feelings that grew from that. 


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Well, we managed to go almost two days in this forum before the romance threads started.

 

That's pretty good, all things considered.


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I was actually concerned that they might shift the options more in favor to the minority, thus upsetting the majority (which was a pretty ugly sight when DAI rolled around.)

 

The whole point of my OP was to avoid that kind of backlash. Not to "cater" to the gay and trans community. Not that the suggestion of such should be something to be ashamed of. If someone wants to cater to the gay and trans community - what is so wrong with that? Jeez

Personally...Bioware or any developer for that matter, should not cater to anyone.  Make a good game is what gamers everywhere really want at the end of the day.  but thats just me, though.  


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