I also suspect that we'll not only get an asari squaddies, but she'll be the bisexual romance. Just seems like what they'll do. I'm prepared to be (and hope that I'm) wrong, though.
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What is the Asari is some other orientation, like demisexual or pansexual?
I'd guess it would be an asari is going to be the bisexual LI as well. So far, it doesn't seem like they have any sort of real preference in physical type other than sentient and breathing. I mean, they could make one a lesbian or heterosexual. Aria seems to prefer the ladies, but I think it would make more sense with their established lore to keep them bisexual. To be honest, if any race has a good lore reason to not be straight, it's them.
Cora is such a simple, human name. It's pretty enough, but I prefer it when they go with something more elaborate.
Zaeed Massani might be my favorite name in the series.
What is the Asari is some other orientation, like demisexual or pansexual?
I don't think applying labels to Asari will ever really work, because you could say that their biology/culture inherently implies pansexuality.
I think we're just saying bisexuality to refer to the fact that they'll probably be available to both genders that we can play as.
Well, to be fair, I'd say the asari aren't really bisexual at all. They are pansexual. They don't seem to hold strong preferences for gender, sexuality, biological sex, etc. Sure, Aria had a clear preference, but most of the ones that we've seen have been pretty open to this stuff.
If I'm guessing on Cora, I'm going to say that it's a nickname. Shortened from something more elaborate and asari-like.
What is the Asari is some other orientation, like demisexual or pansexual?
In programming terms, they're the same things. I understand the distinctions of these various sexualities, but when we have a male/female PC distinction, rather than offering other gender identities, pansexual and bisexual end up playing out the same way within the game. And 'demisexual,' as a sexual identity refers to having to have a deep emotional connection before sexual attraction occurs, having nothing to do with romantic attraction. Josephine is a bisexual romance, but her romance has no explicit sequence where she and the Inquisitor have sex. She can be read as asexual or demisexual if the player wants.
Well, to be fair, I'd say the asari aren't really bisexual at all. They are pansexual. They don't seem to hold strong preferences for gender, sexuality, biological sex, etc. Sure, Aria had a clear preference, but most of the ones that we've seen have been pretty open to this stuff.
If I'm guessing on Cora, I'm going to say that it's a nickname. Shortened from something more elaborate and asari-like.
Corissa, maybe.
A fun thing about the name Cora, though, is that along with it's alternate form "Kore" it was a euphemistic name for Persephone in classical mythology.
If there are allusions to Persephone with this character, I could dig it.
I can understand not liking the only one option thing, but I figured it wouldn't be as bad if everyone only had one option. Plus I thought the fewer overall LI the more intricate each individual's story would be in connection to the plot.
Why is sharing a LI with straight women so bad? I figured that the relationship with the male romance option would vary enough between the two sexes to be worth replaying at least (plus I take a little vindictive pleasure in imagining the male heterosexual player's main dude/bro in the series as being an incorrigible flirt regardless of gender). I just thought bisexuality representation in the core LIs would be a good thing. There could (and should) still be a gay male character in the game universe (as representation) who just isn't a romance option.
Edit: sorry this is still a little new to me. The posting, not the lurking 
... I screwed up the first time lol
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2/2/2 Not liking that, way too many LIs. I would want as much companion resources poured into the LIs as possible. Weaving them into the main plot, giving us good side content et al. I wouldn't want it stretched over so many LIs. Since BW seems so set on set sexualities then 1/1/1/1 sounds a bit better.
Gay Male
Gay Female
Straight Male
Straight Female
Chop the bisexual option. Or add them and make them a fling or something on the side while all romance resources go to the four main options.
2/2/2 Not liking that, way too many LIs. I would want as much companion resources poured into the LIs as possible. Weaving them into the main plot, giving us good side content et al. I wouldn't want it stretched over so many LIs. Since BW seems so set on set sexualities then 1/1/1/1 sounds a bit better.
6 LIs isn't too many, people enjoyed the romance content of DAO and DA2 and that was 4 romance and 5 romance. Why would 6 automatically be too much?
Who do I have to bribe to get an asexual Salarian romance?
2/2/2 Not liking that, way too many LIs. I would want as much companion resources poured into the LIs as possible. Weaving them into the main plot, giving us good side content et al. I wouldn't want it stretched over so many LIs. Since BW seems so set on set sexualities then 1/1/1/1 sounds a bit better.
Gay Male
Gay Female
Straight Male
Straight Female
Chop the bisexual option. Or add them and make them a fling or something on the side while all romance resources go to the four main options.
Eh. I don't think it's necessary to trim it to such an extreme. DAI had more, and I'm not convinced that the variety of options damaged how story relevant the characters involved were. Make two of the options non squad members. It's worked well before, and then people can have at least two choices that fit their tastes.
I might just personally prefer more bisexual options as opposed to less, though.
Excluding bisexuality seems to be detrimental to the whole inclusion premise
Agreed Dan. I think that bisexuals should be included as well. Just having only straight and gay LIs is the same premise as having just straight and bisexual LIs. It give people options, but it lacks representation.
It would be interesting to see a 'lesbian' Asari for once. I never really got the whole pansexual thing - surely that can't be the norm. You'd think that tens of thousands of years of evolution and sexual selection* wouldn't fly out the window once they met other species. Considering human sexual preferences, I have a hard time imagining that most Asari don't still preferentially go for other Asari or other females when considering partners. Maybe there's some cultural pressure to 'mate' with other species (based on pseudo-science), but I'd think most long-term and non-reproductive sexual relationships would still be between Asari. And considering human females are the closest thing in the entire galaxy... Realism!
* Sexual selection in the sense that more attractive Asari may more easily come by mates who will help rear their offspring, and may produce more offspring. The offspring of such Asari may be better able to survive. Thus to be considered attractive by other Asari would confer a fitness advantage.
It would be interesting to see a 'lesbian' Asari for once. I never really got the whole pansexual thing - surely that can't be the norm. You'd think that tens of thousands of years of evolution and sexual selection* wouldn't fly out the window once they met other species. Considering human sexual preferences, I have a hard time imagining that most Asari don't still preferentially go for other Asari when considering partners. Maybe there's some cultural pressure to 'mate' with other species (based on pseudo-science), but I'd think most long-term and non-reproductive sexual relationships would still be between Asari. Realism!
* Sexual selection in the sense that more attractive Asari may more easily come by mates who will help rear their offspring, and may produce more offspring. The offspring of such Asari may be better able to survive. Thus to be considered attractive by other Asari would confer a fitness advantage.
its called being Pure blooded, and there is a stigma to it, for some stupid reason
its called being Pure blooded, and there is a stigma to it, for some stupid reason
Yeah, but that's only when reproducing. It says nothing for the norms of romantic/sexual relations that do not involve reproduction.
And Asari reproduction need not include 'sex' or feeling. It could be as straightforward and unemotional as signing a contract and touching fingertips.
its called being Pure blooded, and there is a stigma to it, for some stupid reason
When it comes to actually having daughters, it's because it seems that Pure Blooded Asari are far more likely to be Ardat Yakshi. Samara mentions that AYs were a lot more common before the Asari managed space flight. Whether or not that's completely true, I don't think we'll ever know. That's the impression I was left with though.
Yeah, but that's only when reproducing. It says nothing for the norms of romantic/sexual relations that do not involve reproduction.
there's very little in the way of all asari relationships from involving reproduction as the gender of the other partner is irrelevant, it can presumably be carried out without sex, and so on
When it comes to actually having daughters, it's because it seems that Pure Blooded Asari are far more likely to be Ardat Yakshi. Samara mentions that AYs were a lot more common before the Asari managed space flight. Whether or not that's completely true, I don't think we'll ever know. That's the impression I was left with though.
that's a stupid reason, humans don't stop having kids because occasionally there's a problem with it
hell go back 500 years and the possibility of deformed kids was downright celebrated (gotta keep those bloodlines pure)
that's a stupid reason, humans don't stop having kids because occasionally there's a problem with it
hell go back 500 years and the possibility of deformed kids was downright celebrated (gotta keep those bloodlines pure)
Humans aren't capable of living for 1000 years while getting addicted to burning out nervous systems. That's a bit different than folks like Charles II of Spain. He had a jaw so thick he couldn't eat. Most of the more inbred Kings and Queens didn't live very long.
It's not like he could seduce someone, burn out their nervous system, while gaining all of their knowledge. Complete with a drug-like rush. Personally, I think the Asari should have looked more deeply into the genetic code that might cause this, rather than sweeping the whole thing under the rug.
What I really, really want is a crew that I like, who are great characters... and if a few of them show interest in me, then I'd be okay with LIs.
But demanding LIs for everyone without knowing if the story can even accomodate them? Mh... might be premature.
When it comes to actually having daughters, it's because it seems that Pure Blooded Asari are far more likely to be Ardat Yakshi. Samara mentions that AYs were a lot more common before the Asari managed space flight. Whether or not that's completely true, I don't think we'll ever know. That's the impression I was left with though.
I believe Liara also mentioned in ME that there was something about its is believed that something is gained in the daughters when mating with another species but nothing is gained from mating with other asari thus nothing new is passed onto the children. If I recall correctly that is along the lines of what she said.
Eh. I don't think it's necessary to trim it to such an extreme. DAI had more, and I'm not convinced that the variety of options damaged how story relevant the characters involved were. Make two of the options non squad members. It's worked well before, and then people can have at least two choices that fit their tastes.
I might just personally prefer more bisexual options as opposed to less, though.
My problem with DA romances is that they all seem to have one story.
Meet LI
Get background info/flirt
Help them out
Bang/don't bang
I want to see a bit more innovation and effort other than adding new sexualities. There are so many of them to the point where some people are just going to have to be excluded. Or included in another way.
I want more story driven romances that add to the plot so we can have more important companions rather than people who are just along for the ride. Choosing one gay(Male/Female) & straight (Male/Female) LI to be apart of the main plot will give us more story to work with. If BW wants to include other options then let them be as flings you can have either on the side or in case the player doesn't like the given LI. But give the juicy story stuff to just four. Heck make one of the four tansgendered if they want. I don't care, just give me more than the same tired LI story structure.
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