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So... Can Romance Be A Little More Fair This Time?


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#1851
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If you're a gay mShep or straight fShep, romance wasn't all too fair.

 

That's your opinion though, I think gay mShep had hands down the best romance, better than the rest combined.

 

This thread makes little sense without establishing what "fair" is supposed to mean in the first place.


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#1852
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I mean I agree, DA2 was just weird, with basically everyone being attracted to you meaning you had to friendzone people which made it seem like you weren't truly friends with anyone except people you couldn't romance.

I disagree, just because you can pursue a romance with four people gameplay wise doesn't mean that within the context of the story they are all pining away in love with you to the point where you have to beat them off.  Out of all of my companions, only Anders strikes me as the one who pines for Hawke (at least he did with mine) and aside from having some playful flirtations with Isabella and a chance to have sex with her I didn't think of her as less of a friend.

 

DA2 is the only DA game where I felt like my PC had multiple friends who were as true to him as he were to them.  I think only Ohgren was my canon Warden's friend while Morrigan was his friend/lover and Dorian was my IQ's lover/friend.  But Hawke had Isabella, Varric, Fenris(also lover), and Aveline.  With Merrill and Sebby being very good acquaintances. 


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#1853
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That's your opinion though, I think gay mShep had hands down the best romance, better than the rest combined.
 
This thread makes little sense without establishing what "fair" is supposed to mean in the first place.


But that's provided that you don't mind waiting 2 whole games for it to materialize. That's really where it can be rather dissatisfying.
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#1854
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But that's provided that you don't mind waiting 2 whole games for it to materialize. That's really where it can be rather dissatisfying.

I actually wouldn't mind waiting if we're given something to work with in terms of interacting with the LI.  Passion and sexual tension can go a long way. MShep and Kaidan's relationship did have a bit of that going on. The meeting in ME2 and the fighting at the start of ME3.  In other words, BW would probably have to make that relationship a bit more passionate and offer more tension between the PC and LI to make the romance interesting and worth the wait.


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Kaiden and Shepard had more sexual tension in ME1 than Shepard and anyone. Especially with the way Meer played it. Seriously.
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4 straight female options vs 2 male straight options, yea right...



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4 straight female options vs 2 male straight options, yea right...


YOU FOOL. DO YOU REALIZE WHAT YOU'VE DONE???
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I'd normally chuckle over someone complaining about the options in a totally different game series for one game being off-balance in favor of straight women.   I'm just too tired right now.

 

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Cora is such a simple, human name. It's pretty enough, but I prefer it when they go with something more elaborate.

Zaeed Massani might be my favorite name in the series.


Robin Saches we miss you!!!

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#1860
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I actually wouldn't mind waiting if we're given something to work with in terms of interacting with the LI.  Passion and sexual tension can go a long way. MShep and Kaidan's relationship did have a bit of that going on. The meeting in ME2 and the fighting at the start of ME3.  In other words, BW would probably have to make that relationship a bit more passionate and offer more tension between the PC and LI to make the romance interesting and worth the wait.

Kaidan telling me that losing me was like losing a limb sealed the deal. You could hear the heartbreak in his voice. And the fact that there was nothing Shepard could say that could close that distance...

 

*runs to youtube for the angst*


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4 straight female options vs 2 male straight options, yea right...

 

And that helps gay Shepards how? ^^



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YOU FOOL. DO YOU REALIZE WHAT YOU'VE DONE???

 

And that helps gay Shepards how? ^^

****, I actually thought this thread was about the unfairness of romance options in general, but okay. Gay Inquisitor has the same amount of romance options as the straight one, but let's just keep in mind the latter one makes up the bulk of the BioWare army (fans).



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****, I actually thought this thread was about the unfairness of romance options in general, but okay. Gay Inquisitor has the same amount of romance options as the straight one, but let's just keep in mind the latter one makes up the bulk of the BioWare army (fans).

 

ME gay Shepard didn't have options until ME3 and I think it's most unfair. Personally I don't think Inquisitors approach was unfair taken accord how most still had 2 options and 2 extras were limited. It sure is talked about, but nobody really got shafted there. Still everyone having same amount would be best in my opinion in the end of day and I hope ME follows that this time.


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I liked the DAI approach to romance, I loved flirting with Dorian, and he let me down rather sweetly. Having the characters being player-sexual I feel, would take away from them rather than add anything. One thing I do want is a broody/reformed sinner/tortured backstory guy voiced by Crispen Freeman. That's it. Do this for me bioware and I will die a very, very happy girl

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Personally I don't think Inquisitors approach was unfair


*snorts*

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I liked the DAI approach to romance, I loved flirting with Dorian, and he let me down rather sweetly. Having the characters being player-sexual I feel, would take away from them rather than add anything. One thing I do want is a broody/reformed sinner/tortured backstory guy voiced by Crispen Freeman. That's it. Do this for me bioware and I will die a very, very happy girl


Yeah, I found the flirt options made his dialogue more fun.
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#1867
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*snorts*

 

At least 2 options for everyone can't be really be called unfair. Not when everyone didn't get 2 in DAO and ME's. DA2 was fairest from ME and DA games, DAI second fairest in it's approach :)



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I don't see "fairness" as issue personally and think DAO hit it on the money with its formula.

The LI's are there, and they are what they are.

It gives it a sense of realism

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ME gay Shepard didn't have options until ME3 and I think it's most unfair.

At least they got options eventually. I'm still waiting for options in ME. 



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I don't see "fairness" as issue personally and think DAO hit it on the money with its formula.

The LI's are there, and they are what they are.

It gives it a sense of realism

 

I find DAO's approach similar as DAI's, there was just less options and no lesbian and gay LIs.

 

At least they got options eventually. I'm still waiting for options in ME. 

 

What option are you waiting for?



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I find DAO's approach similar as DAI's


I don't for two separate reasons.

The perquisites for romance aren't tied into personal quests and because its just less of a chore to achieve them.

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What option are you waiting for?

 

A demi or ace option, I think. (I'm waiting for that, too, really. Asexual Salarians ftw! :wub:)


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At least they got options eventually. I'm still waiting for options in ME. 

Don't you technically have options in terms of sex (and maybe gender)? Your complaint, as discussed in your thread is more about when people develop those feelings, which is a whole separate issue. 

 

Don't conflate the two, because that's what causes people to not take demisexuality seriously.


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#1874
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I don't know about gayShep romance with Kaidan being the 'better' romance but I do think the writers did great job smoothing the romance narrative in ME3 but in larger context, both romances are very different.

 

With BroShep and new romance FemShep/Kaidan, the romance arc only started after the Citadel Coup. Unless you have Citadel, Leviathan and Extended Cut DLC, it was a watered down version of the romance arc. In ME1 and ME2, unlike Liara, Kaidan never hint any romantic intention to unromanced MaleShep and you need a lot of headcanon just to smooth out his gay romance arc. And Its bad enough that the game doesn't acknowledge modded MaleShep/Kaidan ME1 romance in ME3.
 
With FemShep romanced from ME1, the romance is a continuous arc that span several years. By the time you lock-in romance ME3, they're inside their comfort zone where each of them treat one another as supportive life partners rather than just newly discovered friends turned lovers. Besides, I always have a thing for romances where two soulmates was torn apart and then conflict and angst... I'm a sucker for drama...

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Personally, DA2 did better with continuous romance arc and there's slight differences between either straight and gay relationships and it wasn't treated as a token afterthought since everyone have the same LI options. I've always preferred Anders romance with MaleHawke than his romance with FemHawke. I like to do tragicmance with Anders, knowing that Karl was Anders' lover and then he had to kill him.. and then later having my Hawke kill Anders. The pain is real...

 

And I thought DAO do have an Equal Love mod which works great with a silent protagonist like Warden. 



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I don't for two separate reasons.

The perquisites for romance aren't tied into personal quests and because its just less of a chore to achieve them.

 

Alright so it's more of gameplay aspect of romances? I can see that.

 

A demi or ace option, I think. (I'm waiting for that, too, really. Asexual Salarians ftw! :wub:)

 

Would you count as romance where sex isn't mandatory or you can choose when have it as option? So your character could be demi/ace or at least headcanoned as such like it has been with some LI's in DA games (not sure about ME). Or do you want LIs who are also demi or ace?