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[Medhia_Nox]

I'm gonna romance the Mako - I'm gonna romance the Mako so hard.

[Twilight_Princess]

Tumblr would absolutely love to have a Krogan romance from what I have seen.

 

 

Once you go Drack you won't go back

 

 

XD

[dlux]

Seeing as they want equal options for everyone (so some people don't get angry) just make the LI's playersexual

Playersexual LI's would better. Then I can make my whole team a bunch of heterosexuals who shun sexual encounters with aliens.

 

...Or even better, just completely remove romance because this s*** is getting ridiculous. There is no need to cater to a vocal minority that wants to have virtual sex with anything and everything that moves.

[General TSAR]

I'm gonna romance the Mako - I'm gonna romance the Mako so hard.

Why not? DA:I had crossbowsexuality after all. 

[KR96]

You started with the word "revolting"

This is basic stats, not limiting someone's option, or worse yet, forcing everyone to be bi because people may feel left out. I find that a little revolting to be honest.

I was revolted by a certain concept of forcing characters to be whatever sexuality they desire them to be, not claiming a person is revolting. This is a poor excuse if ever I saw one.

As for your objection to 2/2/2 as not making empirical sense, you're overvaluing what that term means. Empirically (based on observation), you may not see the value in equal representation but rationally (based on reason) we know it has far more value than mere numbers suggest.

I don't know, why should it have more of an impact than the numbers suggest? I'm just one person with an opinion, if the whole community feels otherwise, than my opinion can mean the world to me, but it doesn't mean crap to the rest.

Even if the numbers game was all that mattered, your argument would have no weight because games, like all forms of media, are not representative of the real world we live in.

Very true, but that doesn't mean they should be at all disregarded.

If you care so much that LGBT characters should only make up 10% of the game characters because you believe (debatable) that they only make up 10% of the real world population, you should also be equally outraged the average female in the game doesn't way 160lbs or that 30% of protagonists are not persons of colour, or 50% female; but you're not making those arguments because they don't serve your desires as to what you'd like to see in gaming.

What makes you think I don't care? And again, your numbers here are not placed in the right context. I'd be glad to see all those numbers placed in the game in a way which made sense, because it is unlilely that 50% of an elite outfit would be female at this point. But then again, future development may counter this. You're just throwing around numbers and outrage because you obviously disagree with my statement. This is fine, but don't try to declare me an outlaw.

[(Disgusted noise.)]

Also a supporter of 2/2/2 because it allows every protagonist to get a choice when it comes to romance regardless their gender or sexual orientation, and making choices is the whole point of playing an RPG, not being an "empirical" representation of real life demographics.

[mrjack]

Playersexual LI's would better. Then I can make my whole team a bunch of heterosexuals who shun sexual encounters with aliens.

 

...Or even better, just completely remove romance because this s*** is getting ridiculous. There is no need to cater to a vocal minority that wants to have virtual sex with anything and everything that moves.

 

As opposed to the even more vocal majority screaming "Muh gamez is being reuined by teh SJWs!" that also want to have virtual sex with anything that moves.

[Br3admax]

How are DA:I's romances better?
They are incredibly one sided, the Inquisitor constantly flirts with them (in a awkward way) until they "accept"

Because ME's weren't exactly the same? Because almost every BioWare romance isn't exactly the same?

 

And then we have a sex scene and like with most Bioware games the romance is over

Just like Mass Effect, only in Mass Effect it had even less content. 

 

They are also quite cheesy, with Josephine you have a silly duel and with Cassandra reciting poems lol

 

They had something. Poetry isn't cheesy, and duels aren't cheesy. Josephine's was, but that was more about what was said and the reasons(for a non human male), not the duel itself. But back to the point content, ANY content, is better than nothing at all, which puts ME 2 "romances" at the bottom of the **** pile that BioWare romances are. 

[KR96]

Also a supporter of 2/2/2 because it allows every protagonist to get a choice when it comes to romance regardless their gender or sexual orientation, and making choices is the whole point of playing an RPG, not being an "empirical" representation of real life demographics.

And this is a perfectly fine and valid opinion which, although I don't agree with, I can respect. Just as much as I can respect Dave's standpoint.
I just don't understand why the **** needs to hit the fan if someone has a different opinion about catering for everyone.


Big bad discriminating sexist gayhater boogeyman alert!

[Gannayev of Dreams]

They are incredibly one sided, the Inquisitor constantly flirts with them (in a awkward way) until they "accept"

 

To this point, I'd like to see a more "forward" companion in a BioWare game. We're always the instigator. Wish they'd break that mold. After the backlash from Anders in DA2 (Help! He is shoving his sexuality down our throat!) I don't think they'll ever try again. Unfortunate, really.

[KaiserShep]

They are also quite cheesy, with Josephine you have a silly duel and with Cassandra reciting poems lol

 

The poetry scene is cheesy, but those kinds of ridiculous moments really do happen, horrifying as they may be. What's important though is that the subsequent dialogue that Cass and the Inquisitor have in the following scene is anything but. 

[KaiserShep]

To this point, I'd like to see a more "forward" companion in a BioWare game. We're always the instigator. Wish they'd break that mold. After the backlash from Anders in DA2 (Help! He is shoving his sexuality down our throat!) I don't think they'll ever try again. Unfortunate, really.

I think it depends, because Isabela clearly got away with this, while Anders didn't. 

[Morty Smith]

I petition that the only available romance for ME:A is an asexual blob of space-goo named Snoodle the shameful.

 

 

Work it Snoodle.

[Han Shot First]

I think some of the LI options should be locked out based on gender and the actions of the protagonist. I think that would make the characters feel more like real people than all of them being interested in the protagonist no matter the background or actions of the protagonist.

[General TSAR]

I think some of the LI options should be locked out based on gender and the actions of the protagonist. I think that would make the characters feel more like real people than all of them being interested in the protagonist no matter the background or actions of the protagonist.

Yes, if you for example commit genocide, it should make some of your allies disgusted with you and shouldn't want to bang.

[Sanunes]

I think it depends, because Isabela clearly got away with this, while Anders didn't. 

 

I think Anders didn't because if you turned him down you lost approval with him, if they didn't have that one dialogue element I think he might have too.

[The Elder King]

Yes, if you for example commit genocide, it should make some of your allies disgusted with you and shouldn't want to bang.

Depending on the companion .

[KaiserShep]

I think some of the LI options should be locked out based on gender and the actions of the protagonist. I think that would make the characters feel more like real people than all of them being interested in the protagonist no matter the background or actions of the protagonist.

 

There should be a character that gets turned off by being stupid.

 

"Wait, how can asari mate with their own species?"

 

"Um…yeah I think I'm going to go over here, and uh, research stuff. I'll talk to you whenever" [rolls eyes] ROMANCE_CONTENT: BLOCKED

[Angry_Elcor]

 

It will be unacceptably unfair if there is no brute-mance in the new Mass Effect.

[mrjack]

I was revolted by a certain concept of forcing characters to be whatever sexuality they desire them to be, not claiming a person is revolting. This is a poor excuse if ever I saw one.

 

No-one is forcing bisexuality upon characters. They are created and are bisexual. If you mean devs stop and think when creating a character, "Could this character be gay or bi?" then that is a good thing and in no way revolting. It's this thinking which prevents minorities being completely absent in any fictional media. If you don't like the word, don't use it.

 

I don't know, why should it have more of an impact than the numbers suggest? I'm just one person with an opinion, if the whole community feels otherwise, than my opinion can mean the world to me, but it doesn't mean crap to the rest.

 

Ever heard of standing up for the little guy? If we only cared about those in society that fit the largest demographic, the world would be a pretty shitty place to live for those who don't fit the mold... oh wait it is a shitty place for those people. Even if you're (or rather "one" is) not a caring person, rationally, you should see the value of treating all humans equally even if it does not make sense numerically.

 

Very true, but that doesn't mean they should be at all disregarded.

 

Why the hell not? This is fiction. It isn't even that unbelievable that there should be more LGBT characters on SSV Andromeda than you're used to seeing in your everyday life. If I made a crew of people I know that work hard and I have a good relationship with, there would probably be more gay crew than straight. It's just a matter of circumstances; it isn't so fantastical that it could skew the other way. And we're not even talking about that we're talking about 50% of the tiny percentage of the crew that is available to romance.

 

What makes you think I don't care? And again, your numbers here are not placed in the right context. I'd be glad to see all those numbers placed in the game in a way which made sense, because it is unlilely that 50% of an elite outfit would be female at this point. But then again, future development may counter this. You're just throwing around numbers and outrage because you obviously disagree with my statement. This is fine, but don't try to declare me an outlaw.

 

I don't think you're an outlaw and I genuinely am sorry if you feel attacked because you are at least trying to be reasonable unlike some of the other morons in this thread but your whole scientific, by-the-numbers approach to inclusion has resulted in the systematic exclusion of people like me in video games for 40 years. If you feel I've been personally attacking you it's because this is a personal issue for me and it makes me angry and exhausted. A Bioware game that *may* represent disproportionately LGBT characters has little effect on you as a gamer but it means everything to me. To see any argument that tries to devalue this or dismiss it completely makes me... ugh I don't know... angry, sad, defeated and then angry again. 

[General TSAR]

 

It will be unacceptably unfair if there is no brute-mance in the new Mass Effect.

Agreed. 

 

Brute for Turian/Krogan romance, make it happen BioWare. 

[Valkyrja]

Regardless of how the romances turn out, I hope that this forum doesn't get overrun with romance mania like the DA:I one was.

[General TSAR]

Regardless of how the romances turn out, I hope that this forum doesn't get overrun with romance mania like the DA:I one was.

Naw man, naw. 

 

It's coming like a Tsunami, better find cover and have plenty of popcorn.

[Broganisity]

I want a game without romances, so that true and proper inter-character relations are established. We'll worry about the SSV Loveboat once we've all settled aboard and had a few drinks.
 

. . .and that jar of Quarian Sweat still owes me all of the shoes.